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I think the monsters will be in the Final version.
Monsters will NOT be in the final version. Monsters will appear in a separate (not-yet-announced) monster product(s).
In the meanwhile, use the Pathfinder Beta rules with the current 3.5 Monster Manual (if you have one), the D20 SRD (if you don't), the Bestiary in the back of each Pathfinder Adventure Path, or other monster sourcebooks.
I think a MM replacement would be one of the first products Paizo turn their attention to, as soon as the Pathfinder RPG hardcover is off their desk.
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I think the monsters will be in the Final version.Monsters will NOT be in the final version. Monsters will appear in a separate (not-yet-announced) monster product(s).
In the meanwhile, use the Pathfinder Beta rules with the current 3.5 Monster Manual, the D20 SRD, the Bestiary in the back of each Pathfinder Adventure Path, or other monster sourcebooks.
My mistake.
This will be a good and much needed thing.
Not just due to certain changes, but due to the fact that there will need to be a supportive Monster product of sorts for Pathfinder down the road.
Let's face it, right now most of us have our Monster Manuals and can probably get a new or used 3.5 (or if we have to, 3.0) copy for a reasonable price online. However, as the years go by, these will not be as easily available (and possibly not as cheap)....
Looking in a most positive and now potentially very realistic light, Pathfinder could very well become a standard in roleplaying for years to come.... in as much as GURPS, Vampire TM, etc. became standards alongside D&D. I'm not going to get into the debate as to whether Pathfinder will ultimately surpass and replace whatever current D&D variant might exist down the road, but I will say that Pathfinder now holds a very, very strong chance of making a permanent nitch for itself... which is fine with me as saying "do you want to play Pathfinder this weekend?" has become just as easy and now as common for me to say as "do you want to play D&D?"
With this in mind, Pathfinder is going to need its own supporting monster product.... even if Pathfinder keeps a steady gaming interest as modest as a mere 15,000 customers or more for several years, that is still too many to ask for them to rely on an out of print book from another game company for their monsters. The addition of a "monster manual" is a natural need in the evolution of this important gaming product.
... and personally, I can't wait! :)
Oh, I do realize that a few old favorites might honestly be heavily changed or go altogether... of course, a toothy single eye orb is a fairly generic concept, as a squid headed evil humanoid, but six legged panthers with tentacles might just be a bit too obvious...
But I'm willing to accept that. I think that naturally, above all, we need to at least have the classic mythological monsters represented, and it would be nice to have a few otherwise overlooked ones, including a standard hill giant like cyclops.
... and it would be nice to have a few otherwise overlooked ones, including a standard hill giant like cyclops.
I always liked the one in "The 7th Voyage of Sinbad". Not really hill giant like... ;)
But, yeah, can't wait, too...
I think nerco hasplans for a pathfinder tome of horrors
Can't wait to see that (3.P ToH). :)
@ DarkWhite
Thanks for the pointer to the D20 SRD. As someone who hasn't looked at D&D at all since 2nd Ed and sold all my books a long time ago, I was wondering how I was going to try out Pathfinder without a good set of monsters.
a new monster manual would be great....as it stands for summon monster some of the sm1 monsters are stronger than the sm2 monsters
http://paizo.com/store/byCompany/p/paizoPublishingLLC/pathfinder/pathfinder RPG/v5748btpy85k5
Hopefully posted the link correctly.
