Water found on Mars


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Yep, *we* (the human race) really found evidence of water on Mars!

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2008-153

Liberty's Edge

Cool! I thought you were talking about this.


I heard this on the radio. One of the guys mentioned that it tastes like our water?!

I briefly thought about a sci-fi movie called Leviathan... (its a bit like The Thing) ;)

Sovereign Court

What a fantastic achievement for science! Thanks for sharing this article's news!


Now hopefully we can get of our collective keister and start exploring the Inner Solar System seriously again.


Could do with sorting our back yard out first -its a mess! ;)


Patrick Curtin wrote:
Now hopefully we can get of our collective keister and start exploring the Inner Solar System seriously again.

RIGHT ON! :)

To some people a little ice on Mars doesn't mean anything. To me it's an iceberg.

In fifth grade I was asked to do an oral report on Mars. I went to the planetarium in another state just to see a special show devoted to Mars and Martian exploration, and read a couple of books. When I got back to class I had quite the report prepared. All the kids were terrified because most of them didn't have their reports ready. We started alphabetically, and Kevin Anderson went first with his report. Even studded with uhs and ums he was up and back in his seat in only five minutes. I stood up there and did 45 minutes of quick paced Martianry and even used the blackboard to illustrate concepts.

Man, I love space.

All the kids were so thankful that I went long (perhaps the only time in history), because they now had an extra day and a better idea of what was expected of them.

You should have seen my colossal oral report on the Bay of Fundy.


r-type wrote:

Could do with sorting our back yard out first -its a mess! ;)

Yeah but sometimes sorting out our back yard requires a trip to the store down the street for supplies :)

While we are on this one ball we are vulnerable and we have finite supplies to prop our civilization up. Space alleviates many of the problems we face (pollution, overpopulation, lack of materials, energy) and gives us a chance to spread out a bit so a dinosaur killer doesn't catch us with our pants down.


And here I thought those polar ice caps we could see through a crude telescope were evidence of water.


Kruelaid wrote:
And here I thought those polar ice caps we could see through a crude telescope were evidence of water.

Coulda been cow piss. Never know until you suckle a brick of it in yer mouth.


Which brings us to the matter of the cows.


The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
Cool! I thought you were talking about this.

Nice!


Shiny always brings the funny :)


Kruelaid wrote:
Which brings us to the matter of the cows.

Serious business that. They killed Mars and now they're going to kill us.

When will you stop nibbling your bovine overlords and overthrow their subtle tyranny?!


R-type wrote:
Could do with sorting our back yard out first -its a mess! ;)

For my answer to this question, listen to my rant at the end of episode two of the Atomic Array podcast (exactly thirty minutes in should do it). It's called Our Spacial Relationship.

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The Jade wrote:


You should have seen my colossal oral report on the Bay of Fundy.

I love the Bay of Fundy! Went out there every summer as a kid to visit my grandparents. This was back before parents realized you need to control everything your kids do. I started going down to the wharf and getting fishing boats to let me help ... would work all day and get paid for it. Good money for a 13 year old.


You know, part of me also thinks screw earth -lets start over! Besides I like the colour red a lot anyhow. :D


R-type wrote:
You know, part of me also thinks screw earth -lets start over! Besides I like the colour red a lot anyhow. :D

LOL.

Mars is just so posh to begin with. I think the best part of going to Mars is the first time you get to put it on an envelope as your return address.

Oh, and the mutants.


Tarren Dei wrote:
The Jade wrote:


You should have seen my colossal oral report on the Bay of Fundy.
I love the Bay of Fundy! Went out there every summer as a kid to visit my grandparents. This was back before parents realized you need to control everything your kids do. I started going down to the wharf and getting fishing boats to let me help ... would work all day and get paid for it. Good money for a 13 year old.

I truly envy you that experience.

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The Jade wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:
Now hopefully we can get of our collective keister and start exploring the Inner Solar System seriously again.

RIGHT ON! :)

To some people a little ice on Mars doesn't mean anything. To me it's an iceberg.

In fifth grade I was asked to do an oral report on Mars. I went to the planetarium in another state just to see a special show devoted to Mars and Martian exploration, and read a couple of books. When I got back to class I had quite the report prepared. All the kids were terrified because most of them didn't have their reports ready. We started alphabetically, and Kevin Anderson went first with his report. Even studded with uhs and ums he was up and back in his seat in only five minutes. I stood up there and did 45 minutes of quick paced Martianry and even used the blackboard to illustrate concepts.

Man, I love space.

All the kids were so thankful that I went long (perhaps the only time in history), because they now had an extra day and a better idea of what was expected of them.

You should have seen my colossal oral report on the Bay of Fundy.

I grew up near the Bay of Fundy it's a cool place but pretty mundane once you spend your whole life nearby.

Sovereign Court

I found a similar news story.. posted it here

Trent

Silver Crusade

Just one more step towards getting our asses there!


The Jade wrote:
R-type wrote:
Could do with sorting our back yard out first -its a mess! ;)
For my answer to this question, listen to my rant at the end of episode two of the Atomic Array podcast (exactly thirty minutes in should do it). It's called Our Spacial Relationship.

Just listened to it, good job in highlighting the pro-space exploration talking points Jade ... hmm now my interest in this Reign of Discordia setting is peaked as well ...hmm


Jeremy Mcgillan wrote:
You should have seen my colossal oral report on the Bay of Fundy.
I grew up near the Bay of Fundy it's a cool place but pretty mundane once you spend your whole life nearby.

I getcha. I guess if you grew up near the pyramids they'd just be another thing to throw a tennis ball against.


Tensor wrote:
Yep, *we* (the human race) really found evidence of water on Mars!

Isn't it amazing what you humans find amazing.

Oh well I'm off


Patrick Curtin wrote:
The Jade wrote:
R-type wrote:
Could do with sorting our back yard out first -its a mess! ;)
For my answer to this question, listen to my rant at the end of episode two of the Atomic Array podcast (exactly thirty minutes in should do it). It's called Our Spacial Relationship.
Just listened to it, good job in highlighting the pro-space exploration talking points Jade ... hmm now my interest in this Reign of Discordia setting is peaked as well ...hmm

Fantastic! RoD is a great book/game, and one cool thing about it is that if you have any questions, Darrin Drader can be reached right here on Paizo where he was probably just blabbing away anyway. ;) I love a chance to have one on ones with authors. Hey wait... no, I meant...


Kruelaid wrote:
And here I thought those polar ice caps we could see through a crude telescope were evidence of water.

The ice caps on Mars are not frozen water, they are frozen carbon dioxide.

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Tensor wrote:
The ice caps on Mars are not frozen water, they are frozen carbon dioxide.

I remember reading years ago that one cap was frozen carbon dioxide (dry ice), while the other was frozen water.


Zootcat wrote:
Tensor wrote:
The ice caps on Mars are not frozen water, they are frozen carbon dioxide.
I remember reading years ago that one cap was frozen carbon dioxide (dry ice), while the other was frozen water.

No, both polar caps are frozen carbon dioxide (dry ice).

Otherwise, if we knew one was frozen water we would not have been trying to find evidence for water on Mars.

Liberty's Edge

Tarren Dei wrote:
This was back before parents realized you need to control everything your kids do.

If this hadn't happened, I would be half-way through college by now. I would have skipped the two grades I had the option to have skipped, and I would have spent the extra time making money. [/rant]

Liberty's Edge

The Jade wrote:
R-type wrote:
You know, part of me also thinks screw earth -lets start over! Besides I like the colour red a lot anyhow. :D

LOL.

Mars is just so posh to begin with. I think the best part of going to Mars is the first time you get to put it on an envelope as your return address.

Oh, and the mutants.

BARSOOM!

Liberty's Edge

The Jade wrote:
Tarren Dei wrote:
The Jade wrote:


You should have seen my colossal oral report on the Bay of Fundy.
I love the Bay of Fundy! Went out there every summer as a kid to visit my grandparents. This was back before parents realized you need to control everything your kids do. I started going down to the wharf and getting fishing boats to let me help ... would work all day and get paid for it. Good money for a 13 year old.

I truly envy you that experience.

Seconded.


Hey Shiny, if you like the old-school Barsoom stories from Edgar Rice Burroughs, check out Steve Stirling's In the Courts of the Crimson Kings. It's an updated alternate-reality hommage to ERB, as is the first novel in the series The Sky People.

Liberty's Edge

Patrick Curtin wrote:
Hey Shiny, if you like the old-school Barsoom stories from Edgar Rice Burroughs, check out Steve Stirling's In the Courts of the Crimson Kings. It's an updated alternate-reality hommage to ERB, as is the first novel in the series The Sky People.

I've actually read "The Sky People". I wasn't aware that there was a series.


I actually like the second book even better. It gives a nice facelift to the Burrough's Mars setting. Lots of thought-provoking imagery that is easily yoinkable to a fantasy game.

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The Jade wrote:
Tarren Dei wrote:
The Jade wrote:


You should have seen my colossal oral report on the Bay of Fundy.
I love the Bay of Fundy! Went out there every summer as a kid to visit my grandparents. This was back before parents realized you need to control everything your kids do. I started going down to the wharf and getting fishing boats to let me help ... would work all day and get paid for it. Good money for a 13 year old.

I truly envy you that experience.

[more threadjack]I went back to New Brunswick in May for a conference. Here are some pics: hopewell rocks but I don't know these people; or these ones; stat this seaweed; Fundy National Park.[/morethreadjack]


Tarren Dei wrote:


[more threadjack]I went back to New Brunswick in May for a conference. Here are some pics: hopewell rocks but I don't know these people; or these ones; stat this seaweed; Fundy National Park.[/morethreadjack]

Love the pics. Man, I need to travel. Seriously.

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The Jade wrote:
Tarren Dei wrote:


[more threadjack]I went back to New Brunswick in May for a conference. Here are some pics: hopewell rocks but I don't know these people; or these ones; stat this seaweed; Fundy National Park.[/morethreadjack]
Love the pics. Man, I need to travel to Canada. Seriously.

Fixed that for you. ;-)


Rambling Scribe wrote:
Love the pics. Man, I need to travel to Canada. Seriously.
Fixed that for you. ;-)

I'll take that as an invitation. :)

Come to Canada, and widen your horizons.
Come to the wooooooooooooooooooorld next door.

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Tensor wrote:

Yep, *we* (the human race) really found evidence of water on Mars!

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2008-153

I was worried they would not be able to get it done because of all the problems they had with the sticky soil not cooperating..

I was happy they got it done!

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Tensor wrote:

No, both polar caps are frozen carbon dioxide (dry ice).

Otherwise, if we knew one was frozen water we would not have been trying to find evidence for water on Mars.

They've known for a long that there was water in the polar caps: Read this.

Here's a couple quotes for the link impaired:

"Planum Australe is partially covered by a permanent polar ice cap composed of frozen water and carbon dioxide about 3 km thick."

"However it is now thought that both poles are made mostly of water ice."

And HERE

Quote: "For example Earth's polar ice caps are mainly water ice, while Mars's polar ice caps are a mixture of solid phase carbon dioxide and water ice."

Liberty's Edge

Patrick Curtin wrote:
r-type wrote:

Could do with sorting our back yard out first -its a mess! ;)

Yeah but sometimes sorting out our back yard requires a trip to the store down the street for supplies :)

While we are on this one ball we are vulnerable and we have finite supplies to prop our civilization up. Space alleviates many of the problems we face (pollution, overpopulation, lack of materials, energy) and gives us a chance to spread out a bit so a dinosaur killer doesn't catch us with our pants down.

Patrick for the win. Had a conversation once where I was saying that expansion into space should be made a priority. Got laughed at. So, I started talking about how it could help alleviate overpopulation and overcrowding and all the potential ills that come with it from pandemics, famine and food shortage, social violence, unemployment and poverty, environmental destruction, etc. Peoples eyes just glazed over and dismissed it out of hand and laughed it off. So people just can't see the big picture.

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