Note from Wickederror, 2nd captain in the Paizo rebellion:
Last Saturday at Wrigley Park, we had our anti-4th Ed meeting in the soccer fields (after little league soccer was over of course, so we wouldn't lose our permit).
It was a fantastic rally that shared much similarity to a specific Braveheart scene. Our small but determined group of rebels were decked out in full facepaint and battle gear. Eric Mona and Jason Bulmahn rode flank-to-flank on powerful steeds rallying the troops with vitriolic warchants like:
Eric Mona quote from the Paizo board, "All I am saying is that I trust Bruce Cordell to come up with some great ideas because he is the best writer working at Wizards of the Coast. Whether or not those ideas mesh well with the historical Realms we won't know until it comes out, but I have confidence that, as a stand-alone product, it will probably be pretty neat."
Technical director Vic Wertz, sporting a thick hide armor and an axe that rivals Clouds sword from FF7 took over the rally at one point spitting fire that cemented our hate for WotC with powerful rhetoric like:
Vic Wertz quote from the Paizo board, "We're committed to the Pathfinder RPG for future Pathfinder products, but we've always said that we would consider doing some non-Pathfinder 4E products. (Assuming the GSL allows that.)"
After that we had cookies and gatorade for refreshments (the cookies were loot taken from the bodies of a nearby girlscout troop that we accidentally mistook for WotC spies...our bad, but the cookies were great!) Nicolas Logue , currently in charge of the new Pathfinder Society, then ran a 25-man campaign with the final enemy being the now infamous "4th Ed monster" strangely named Bob. Bob was hard to defeat but the troop prevailed. We then ended the evening with our "burning 10 copies of Worlds & Monsters" ceremony as usual.
On a counter-note, I had the opportunity to infiltrate the WotC "crush Paizo with 4th Ed" rally...what I saw was truly horrific. It was mildly disheartening that they could afford an indoor venue and we could not.
Their rally was obviously meant to copy a scene from Return of the Jedi (DORKS!). In a seedy smoke filled room full of thieves, thugs, and criminals, Kieth Baker was sprawled out on a throne-platform like Jabba the Hut and Mike Mearls was decked out as Boba Fett (although I felt the costume looked quickly put together and I think it could have been done better). Playing my part, I came dressed as Lando Calrissian.
Staff member, WotC_ScottR was on hand to make the following hate-filled comments towards Paizo:
Originally Posted by WotC_ScottR View Post
I know.
My point was what happened toady was not the finger but more of a gesture of goodwill like a handshake.
There is no animosity between us and Paizo.
However my folks, it gets much much worse. They had kidnapped Paizo contributor "Dungeon Grrrl" and had her chained up like Princess Leia...two cinnamon rolls cruely stuck to the side of her head for dramatic effect, and had a kiddie pool filled with quick-cement labeled,"James Jacobs", obviously meant to poorly simulate the carbonite prison Han Solo was encased in. Luckly Jacobs was nowhere to be seen.
A small girl with facepaint, fake ears and a sash was playing the part of "jabbas" laughing pet. I didn't get the sash until she started walking around with some other small girls peddling boxes of girlscout cookies....( I KNEW IT!)
I will try to infiltrate the future WotC functions in hopes to learn more about thier plots against us. If you don't hear from me, you know my effort has not been in vain, because our cause is great. I just hope if they do catch me they don't turn the girlscouts loose on me....
Wickederror,
2nd Captain of the Paizo rebellion
[/massive sarcasm and slight mockery]
BTW, I'm wickederror (my sig on most other boards).
This was posted by me on the strange thread that has turned into some kind of wierd internet-legal-combat on the WotC page. I thought it deserved it's own thread here.
Indeed...Don't trust them. I saw them outside the gamestore yesterday, and they laid a plate of thin-mints, some shiny new dice, and a miniature under a huge spike-filled cardboard box propped up via stick with a rope tied to it.
Don't fall for this...
Over the past few months, the interpretation of some people as to how the two companies really feel about each other, never mind what all the people involved keep saying, reminds me of Falcon Crest or something. Because, you know, game designers are secretly cutthroat competitors who will let nothing--friendship, basic decency, pizza and other high-calorie foods--stand in the way of their quest to rule the world through domination of the high-stakes business of tabletop gaming.
Aye, the heavens will surely tremble with the clash of the dice. Somewhere in Bellevue, in a cold marble throne room, a group of toughened warriors curse Crom, sharpen their pencils, and laugh. There will be much weeping in Renton this night.
I have also maintained the a copy of their secret plans that I saw enacted the other day.
Be careful who you show these to.
Secret girlscout document of evilness
More plans may be uncovered, depending on if I actually have to do any work today...
If you want to know what girl scouts are REALLY like, watch the South Seas bar scene from Airplane!
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For me it's not a Paizo vs Wotc... maybe that's because I come from a gaming background of playing Star Wars RPG that for YEARs was under a different company that put out a TON of books under a different system. For a very long time I was playing both D6 Star Wars by WEG and D20 Star Wars by WOTC.
It's been a while since I played Star Wars RPG at all, but the whole D&D 4E vs Pathfinder RPG doesn't phase me. Pathfinder is shaping up as a wonderful campaign setting and once they get the fiction line up and going, there'll have to pull a Spellplague on me to get rid of me. :)
That said I still have no plans to not play D&D 3E or 4E based on what's going on locally.
I was torn on using dungeon grrl or Mike McArtor as the cinnamon bun wearing Leia kidnappee... in retrospect the latter may have been more amusing.
I was torn on using dungeon grrl or Mike McArtor as the cinnamon bun wearing Leia kidnappee... in retrospect the latter may have been more amusing.
I heard McArtor dresses like that in his spare time anyway. :)
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Indeed...Don't trust them. I saw them outside the gamestore yesterday, and they laid a plate of thin-mints, some shiny new dice, and a miniature under a huge spike-filled cardboard box propped up via stick with a rope tied to it.
Don't fall for this...
Auuugh! Too late!
Yeah - I keep going o.O over all the supposed conspiracies and "us vs. them" junk being added to the fire. I tend to let them slide past with no more a second look than a landspeeder full of jedi masters trying to get past a small Stormtrooper roadblock ...
I heard McArtor dresses like that in his spare time anyway. :)There are pictures.
Mmm... yes there are... I'm looking at them now.
The horror.
I was torn on using dungeon grrl or Mike McArtor as the cinnamon bun wearing Leia kidnappee... in retrospect the latter may have been more amusing.I heard McArtor dresses like that in his spare time anyway. :)
Spare time? You should see what he wears to work. Talk about horror...
LOL @ "the horror"
Also, given my obvious Mad-art skills, I will await the offers of lead artist on your next project. Seriously ...I did that in like 2 hours tops.
OMG
The horror, the horror!
There is a serious amount of insanity on these boards.
And I *like* it.
Poor, Mike, though. If you guys knew how hard he was working on the Pathfinder Chronicles campaign setting hardcover you'd be buying him cookies and pizza instead of playing fantasy dress-up with his good name.
Hang in there, Mike!
Pfft. You haven't even gotten to the pics where he eats those cinnamon buns off the side of his head, no hands. Shiver me timbers.
Oh, you should see my Mike McArtor room.
We've still got room in there with the Tibetans, people. Watch what you say!
There is a serious amount of insanity on these boards.
And I *like* it.
Poor, Mike, though. If you guys knew how hard he was working on the Pathfinder Chronicles campaign setting hardcover you'd be buying him cookies and pizza instead of playing fantasy dress-up with his good name.
Hang in there, Mike!
He needs a bit of down time and humor in his life. Getting mocked by others on the Paizo boards ought to provide that. :)
This is not a pick on Mike thread...Mike rules and before he got kidnapped I saw him take out at least 3 evil girlscouts before they mobbed him.
Ever seen an evil girlscout knocked out by an overhand right? It's a thing of beauty, and tougher than it looks(especially if your wearing a dress).
Poor, Mike, though. If you guys knew how hard he was working on the Pathfinder Chronicles campaign setting hardcover you'd be buying him cookies and pizza instead of playing fantasy dress-up with his good name.
I'm bringing cookies next week - does that count? (Though I may have to go with "Plan B" as I learned of some allergies - to the cookbook shelf!)
Pathfinder is shaping up as a wonderful campaign setting and once they get the fiction line up and going, there'll have to pull a Spellplague on me to get rid of me. :)
I'll sign onto that sentiment . . . ;)
Poor, Mike, though. If you guys knew how hard he was working on the Pathfinder Chronicles campaign setting hardcover you'd be buying him cookies and pizza instead of playing fantasy dress-up with his good name.I'm bringing cookies next week - does that count? (Though I may have to go with "Plan B" as I learned of some allergies - to the cookbook shelf!)
Lilith is truly excellent.
Being someone of less excellence, but still wanting to show gratitude, if you put a "Buy a Paizo staffer a pizza" item in the store, I'd be so on that.
It's sad though because I absolutely love the old Realms.
Well, its pretty much a matter of public record how much of my time I've burned on that particular obsession . . .
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Poor, Mike, though. If you guys knew how hard he was working on the Pathfinder Chronicles campaign setting hardcover you'd be buying him cookies and pizza instead of playing fantasy dress-up with his good name.I'm bringing cookies next week - does that count? (Though I may have to go with "Plan B" as I learned of some allergies - to the cookbook shelf!)Lilith is truly excellent.
Being someone of less excellence, but still wanting to show gratitude, if you put a "Buy a Paizo staffer a pizza" item in the store, I'd be so on that.
Now here is an idea with merit, how about a collection and we all buy the semi-hard working people up in office lunch from a delivery place? All of us tossing in $2 would buy a great lunch with out the giant spider poison for all of them
When the talking stops and the killing begins, I'll be there...with a small booth selling torches and pitchforks! Standard PHB 3.5 costs + 20% fuel surcharge.
Wasn't that already done at one point? Buying paizo staffers pizza? And for that matter, when is Erik Mona Day again?
Opens Cockpit door...
"I just wanted to say...Good Luck. We are all Counting on you."
...Closed Door.
I heard my name being invoked in a way I disapprove.
You are all now on my list.
It is not the list for those who deserve cookies.
Not me!
Mighty Mike McArtor!
It's got that same sense of power as Joltin' Joe Dimaggio!
Screw all of you Arthur Miller Dress-up Weenies! Peter Lawford Wannabees!
Edit: And no, that doesn't make me the dame either.
Wasn't that already done at one point? Buying paizo staffers pizza? And for that matter, when is Erik Mona Day again?
Remember remember the 8th of November! :D (And yes, it was done. Go back to the blogs from November 2007.)
To the OP: that was awesome! LMAO
Thanks for going undercover like that. Who knew their budget would support an indoor venue. One thing this does bring to the fore is our failing in our recruitment and retention department...
This thread has become surreal.
No. Wait. It was always surreal.
Does that mean it's now surrealier? Surreally? Sir, really?
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Umm... that doesn't make sense. I'm going to bed.
+2 Surreal?
This thread has become surreal.
No. Wait. It was always surreal.
Does that mean it's now surrealier? Surreally? Sir, really?
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Umm... that doesn't make sense. I'm going to bed.
Does this help normal things out?
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Does this help normal things out?
Ha ha! Excellent!
Here ya go Mike, this might help you analyze some of your weak areas for the next time those Girl Scouts ambush you.
According to that, I could take 23. ;D
I think I was aided by my willingness to pick up one and use him as a weapon against the others. I think I need to change my alignment now...