Vile and Exalted Material?


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Is there any plan, as far as anyone knows, to do some vile and exalted stuff for Pathfinder? I really like the idea of it, as well as some of the options that BoVD gave, but a lot of it needs to be better thought out (deformity feats, vow feats, "Good" bio-warfare, etc.) This is an area I'd truely like to help develop because I seriously hurt myself over WotC's latest "Vile" material (Elder Evils, the deformity feats are still iffy on concept, and the dark speech stuff needs some work... there's seriously a feat called "Filthy Outburst." It's like the paladin's going to wash your mouth out with soap or something...)(Oh, and by hurt myself, I mean gave myself a headache banging my head against the bookshelf behind me...)


Prak_Anima wrote:
Is there any plan, as far as anyone knows, to do some vile and exalted stuff for Pathfinder? I really like the idea of it, as well as some of the options that BoVD gave, but a lot of it needs to be better thought out (deformity feats, vow feats, "Good" bio-warfare, etc.) This is an area I'd truely like to help develop because I seriously hurt myself over WotC's latest "Vile" material (Elder Evils, the deformity feats are still iffy on concept, and the dark speech stuff needs some work... there's seriously a feat called "Filthy Outburst." It's like the paladin's going to wash your mouth out with soap or something...)(Oh, and by hurt myself, I mean gave myself a headache banging my head against the bookshelf behind me...)

Well, BoVD and BoED aren't OGL, and following that neither are the "exalted" or "vile" type feats or powers. This would probably require a total re-write on Paizo's end,


F33b wrote:
Prak_Anima wrote:
Is there any plan, as far as anyone knows, to do some vile and exalted stuff for Pathfinder? I really like the idea of it, as well as some of the options that BoVD gave, but a lot of it needs to be better thought out (deformity feats, vow feats, "Good" bio-warfare, etc.) This is an area I'd truely like to help develop because I seriously hurt myself over WotC's latest "Vile" material (Elder Evils, the deformity feats are still iffy on concept, and the dark speech stuff needs some work... there's seriously a feat called "Filthy Outburst." It's like the paladin's going to wash your mouth out with soap or something...)(Oh, and by hurt myself, I mean gave myself a headache banging my head against the bookshelf behind me...)
Well, BoVD and BoED aren't OGL, and following that neither are the "exalted" or "vile" type feats or powers. This would probably require a total re-write on Paizo's end,

Not that that'd be a bad thing...


I am unclear as to how much permission Paizo has to publish Book of Vile Darkness materials, they've certainly done it a lot. Having to do a total overhaul on BoED material is all to the good in my opinion.

-Frank


Frank Trollman wrote:

I am unclear as to how much permission Paizo has to publish Book of Vile Darkness materials, they've certainly done it a lot. Having to do a total overhaul on BoED material is all to the good in my opinion.

-Frank

That's true, they have published plenty of vile feats, spells, whatever and some exalted material, I think, so maybe they can, I don't know, though... maybe the basic concept of vile and exalted material (must be evil, vile damage is vaguely difficult to heal, unless you've got a cleric and some time, which, yeah, most parties do, etc) is OGC, but the actual material in the books isn't... though they've reprinted a few vile feats, I think, notably for the demonomicon stuff.

Meh, I just would like to see the idea get carried over, even/especially if it has to be rebuilt from the ground up.

Dark Archive

Frank Trollman wrote:

I am unclear as to how much permission Paizo has to publish Book of Vile Darkness materials, they've certainly done it a lot. Having to do a total overhaul on BoED material is all to the good in my opinion.

-Frank

Are you talking about in Dungeon and Dragon magazines? They used to do a lot of stuff in those magazines they are not allowed to do anywhere else.

The Exchange

BoVD was 3e, rather than 3.5, so they (the Paizo authors) revised some of the feats when used in 3.5 settings (like Savage Tide) (don't know about BoED by memory). But that was under the auspices of the Paizo/WotC licence agreement, which is obviously no more, so the chances of Paizo doing anythin "vile" in Pathfinder is non-existent (though they might do a "vile" analogue and just not call it such, but probably not in the core Pathfinder rulebook). Would be my intuition.


I dont think we will see anything soon on this front but if it ever does happen we will have to move away from vile and exalted to different names for legal reasons. Though this does give Paizo a chance to rehaul the whole system which will allow the feat types to really mean something.

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