
Nicolas Logue Contributor |

Thats what I would love to see. Razor coast added as part of Golarion off in some distant region of course, so Nick can play with it all he wants to.
Oh, you can bet your sweet dirty bits that we'll be putting out a Pathfinder RPG adaptation of it as soon as humanly possible as well.

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Crimson Jester wrote:Thats what I would love to see. Razor coast added as part of Golarion off in some distant region of course, so Nick can play with it all he wants to.Oh, you can bet your sweet dirty bits that we'll be putting out a Pathfinder RPG adaptation of it as soon as humanly possible as well.
Nice.
Hmmm. Should I wait until the RC adaptation then? Or go ahead and buy the SRD version?

Nicolas Logue Contributor |

Nicolas Logue wrote:Crimson Jester wrote:Thats what I would love to see. Razor coast added as part of Golarion off in some distant region of course, so Nick can play with it all he wants to.Oh, you can bet your sweet dirty bits that we'll be putting out a Pathfinder RPG adaptation of it as soon as humanly possible as well.Nice.
Hmmm. Should I wait until the RC adaptation then? Or go ahead and buy the SRD version?
Up to you! Either way you get a PDF of both for free with it, so I guess its just a matter of which PRINT version you want. We'll offer print versions of the Pathfinder one as soon as its cooked up and ready - so you could wait for that.

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Up to you! Either way you get a PDF of both for free with it, so I guess its just a matter of which PRINT version you want. We'll offer print versions of the Pathfinder one as soon as its cooked up and ready - so you could wait for that.Hmmm. Should I wait until the RC adaptation then? Or go ahead and buy the SRD version?
Good point. I keep forgetting about the free pdfs.
Oh! I can't remember, but is Sinister still barred from publishing its material in 4E even with the new GSL?

Nicolas Logue Contributor |

Nicolas Logue wrote:Up to you! Either way you get a PDF of both for free with it, so I guess its just a matter of which PRINT version you want. We'll offer print versions of the Pathfinder one as soon as its cooked up and ready - so you could wait for that.Hmmm. Should I wait until the RC adaptation then? Or go ahead and buy the SRD version?
Good point. I keep forgetting about the free pdfs.
Oh! I can't remember, but is Sinister still barred from publishing its material in 4E even with the new GSL?
In all honesty, I haven't had the time to examine the new GSL in enough detail to make a decision yet. As soon as RC is in layout, I'll have some time to look-see it over.

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Crimson Jester wrote:Thats what I would love to see. Razor coast added as part of Golarion off in some distant region of course, so Nick can play with it all he wants to.Oh, you can bet your sweet dirty bits that we'll be putting out a Pathfinder RPG adaptation of it as soon as humanly possible as well.
How is this going to effect your Tian Xia stuff?

Patrick Curtin |

Small Attention Span wrote:By any chance has Nic Logue picked up a snazzy British accent?I saw him popping round to see Professor Henry Higgins, with Eliza Doolittle on his arm, so maybe.
Though Nick's version of Eliza Doolittle was cobbled together out of several missing prostitutes from Whitechapel ...

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Small Attention Span wrote:By any chance has Nic Logue picked up a snazzy British accent?I saw him popping round to see Professor Henry Higgins, with Eliza Doolittle on his arm, so maybe.
British accents don't come in "snazzy". The only come in "comical" ("Oy, guv'nor!"), "sinister" ("I hahve the MAHP!") and "snotty" ("I ahm a BOUN-TEE HUN-TAH!")
YMMV. ;-)

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Although there is no way to verify this was really him...the following is taken from the Shoutbox on sinisteradventures.com:
Nick Quick update: Just finished up my last week of auditions and administrative work at the University, so I am taking the weekend to re-focus and will kick in on tearing RC a new a-hole on Monday morning and all through next week. Thanks for hanging in there everyone!
2009-03-28 5:16 PM Off

Patrick Curtin |

Although there is no way to verify this was really him...the following is taken from the Shoutbox on sinisteradventures.com:
Nick on Shoutbox wrote:Nick Quick update: Just finished up my last week of auditions and administrative work at the University, so I am taking the weekend to re-focus and will kick in on tearing RC a new a-hole on Monday morning and all through next week. Thanks for hanging in there everyone!
2009-03-28 5:16 PM Off
NIIIIIIICE!

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Radavel wrote:Nick, with March 2009 almost at an end, I have to ask: what's the status on RC?DAY TWO OF THE BIG TWO-WEEK EDIT EXTRAVAGANZA BEGINS TOMORROW! MADNESS!!!
I don't want to take away from your work...but would it be too much to get daily(-ish) updates?

Mir |
Good point. I keep forgetting about the free pdfs.
I'd love to see you do one for the Mutants & Masterminds system. They are just getting out their fantasy book Warriors and Warlocks which from the reviews looks like one of the best M&M books so far. There are no other premade adventures for it some of the contained demo settings stuff is Pirates of Freeport which fits in well. Add to that that the conversion between it and True20 doesn't take much :)

FenrysStar |

Nicolas Logue wrote:
Good point. I keep forgetting about the free pdfs.
I'd love to see you do one for the Mutants & Masterminds system. They are just getting out their fantasy book Warriors and Warlocks which from the reviews looks like one of the best M&M books so far. There are no other premade adventures for it some of the contained demo settings stuff is Pirates of Freeport which fits in well. Add to that that the conversion between it and True20 doesn't take much :)
I'm waiting for the print book to come out although the pdf is available now I hear. M&M and True20 work on very similar principals so what works for the one more or less works for the other. But in any case, I can work out most conversions myself. I'm just waiting to hear when it will get shipped out and to my door.

FenrysStar |

Anything new about Razor Coast for those of us that have put in a pre order? I'm starting to think I may need to ask Pele herself to help you out. Either that, Nick, or have her light a fire in a location of her choosing. I am a witch and a neo-pagan. I can find some ritual to Pele if look hard enough...

Aberzanzorax |

Yup. Would love an update to get a status quo after those two crazy whirlwind weeks of editing.
Also, I'm moving at the end of July. I need to find out how to change my address with you Nick. Since your site is down still, I thought I'd ask you here as our identities are a tad more confirmable than just the shoutbox.
Thanks!

Aberzanzorax |

Ah, I remember when it was coming out last June/July. I was worried about preordering it because I had to move from the east coast to Minnesota. Now, a year later, I'm again worried about having preordered it, since I'm moving from Minnesota to the east coast.
At least I have those tasty indulgences I bought...
If they're a guide to the quality of RC, it only makes me want it more.
The funny parts are:
1. His site still says it comes out in January 2009.
2. People think it is actually going to get converted to other systems. (In what time frame might that happen?)
I have to say, I've only ever been this dissapointed by one other company in all my gaming: WotC.
COME ON NICK!!! YOU CAN DO IT!
Give us hope. Give us confidence! GIVE US RAZOR COAST!!!
Unlike WotC, though, I still like what I see Nick do, and still root for (rather than against him). Doesn't mean I'm not frustrated...but I'm still rooting for him.

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With all these posts it makes me wonder if i should let him out of the box in my basement.
yes, please do, because this is pathetic - especially in light of the fact that he can find time to write other material (he gets paid for). What material? He is listed in the credits for Pathfinder #26...not cool

Aberzanzorax |

EDIT:
Nick, forget it. Instead of going through the hassle of changing my address, please let me know how I can get a refund.
I'm going to put that Razor Coast money toward some of the 0one games stuff. (Others, check it out! It's pretty awesome.)
When and if razor coast comes out, I'll probably buy it (but not as a preorder).
I like your stuff, but I gotta say, I'm not a huge fan of your company.
So, with due respect, I'll still look forward to Razor Coast, but not with my money hanging in the balance.
Thanks.

Patrick Curtin |

Man, I have to admit, I feel Aberzanzorax's frustration on this one. Nick, I love your work, but I am worried you might have bit off a little too much with this one. I am going to hold out for word, but if I don't hear anything concrete by the end of May I am going to have to ask for a refund as well and just wait for RC's release to buy it.

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Being a RPG Publisher I know how ANYTHING can change and go wrong causing all kind of late release issues. Like many, I am waiting for RC too and I know Nick is doing everything he can to get it out to the RPG fans.
I've said this in defense of your products too - late is not the problem. It is the lack of information. Especially this day of Twitter (love the Paizo contest by the way) - there is very little excuse for not letting your customers know what's going on.
How much better would we all feel with something like:
Sunday: Busy all day with non-RC stuff
Monday: got page 1 edited!
Tuesday: got page 2-3 edited (OK, page 2 is full page art, but still)
Wednesday: Nothing today guys
Daily updates may be unrealistic (twitter) but a weekly pulse would go a long way to calming our unrest.
We're just the vocal ones. How many people preordered RC (not to mention those of use who preordered ALL the offerings) that you don't hear from?

BenS |

LMPjr007 wrote:Being a RPG Publisher I know how ANYTHING can change and go wrong causing all kind of late release issues. Like many, I am waiting for RC too and I know Nick is doing everything he can to get it out to the RPG fans.I've said this in defense of your products too - late is not the problem. It is the lack of information. Especially this day of Twitter (love the Paizo contest by the way) - there is very little excuse for not letting your customers know what's going on.
Daily updates may be unrealistic (twitter) but a weekly pulse would go a long way to calming our unrest.
We're just the vocal ones. How many people preordered RC (not to mention those of use who preordered ALL the offerings) that you don't hear from?
I've waited a long time for people to start posting their discontent w/ this situation. For me, it's a combination of (a) too little information, posted far too infrequently; (b) too many failed promises of "it's coming"; and (c) the fact that I prepaid for this well over a year ago and have nothing to show for it.
Feels good to finally get that off my chest...

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I've waited a long time for people to start posting their discontent w/ this situation.
Well, if you could get to the Sinister Adventures forums you would see that I tried like crazy to encourage people to not get worked up. I still don't think it does any good to get too negative/frustrated/angry. I love Nick as much as the next guy. I'm just seriously let down.
But look around, there are some amazingly talented people doing some top-notch work. Don't let this experience detract from other smaller presses - you really should check out people like Louis up above, Steven Muchow's SORD+, the Great City, and the uber-creative Bret Boyd (and you're shooting yourself in the foot with a +1 crossbow if you aren't following the Behind the Spell articles over HERE).
Let's refocus - what else are people spending their money on while waiting for RC?