Goblin Takeover of Sandpoint Not Working!


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My PC's keep thwarting the goblins that are invading Sandpoint. I'm at the end of my rope! I've tried everthing from fudging dice rolls in the goblins' favor to striking the party Paladin dead with a lightning bolt from the sky. Nothing seems to work! The PC's keep driving the goblins out of town. What am I doing wrong?


Quiet Desperation wrote:

My PC's keep thwarting the goblins that are invading Sandpoint. I'm at the end of my rope! I've tried everthing from fudging dice rolls in the goblins' favor to striking the party Paladin dead with a lightning bolt from the sky. Nothing seems to work! The PC's keep driving the goblins out of town. What am I doing wrong?

Nothing...Just let them steal the clerc's body at the cemetery and than let them return to their lair... Remind you, the goblin's goals is not to occupy and sack the town but to create a diversion for one of their group (let by Tsuto) to steal the corpse...

The Exchange

Yeah - the goblins aren't supposed to win. How big is the party?

Sczarni

Aubrey the Malformed wrote:
Yeah - the goblins aren't supposed to win. How big is the party?

Aubrey - I think this is another response to your spoilers in title thread.

I say replace all of the gobs with gob commandos on goblin dogs


One of my goblins is planning on challenging the mayor to single combat for rulership of the town. This is mainly for its utility as a source of cinnamon buns, of course.

Scarab Sages

I'm still trying to figure out how to keep the PCs from realizing that Ameiko is sending the Bugbears inside info on the town's defenses. They have been spending a lot of time at the Rusty Dragon, though so far they keep failing their sense motive checks against her outrageous bluff skills so maybe I'm worrying about nothing.


tbug wrote:
One of my goblins is planning on challenging the mayor to single combat for rulership of the town. This is mainly for its utility as a source of cinnamon buns, of course.

Heh - good thread. Gotta keep those cinnamon buns coming. The goblin economy depends on an ever increasing number of cinnamon buns (and pickles) to grease its wheels (and fatten little goblin tummies).


Jeremy Mac Donald wrote:
Heh - good thread. Gotta keep those cinnamon buns coming. The goblin economy depends on an ever increasing number of cinnamon buns (and pickles) to grease its wheels (and fatten little goblin tummies).

Right now there's a ban against any goblins entering Sandpoint, which is unfair considering how helpful the (goblin) PCs were during the Swallowtail Festival attack. The cinnamon buns are certainly the main reason that this is problematic for them, but once they swear fealty to the Company of the Old Light (a local "hero" group consisting mostly of teenagers) their problems will all go away.


tbug wrote:
One of my goblins is planning on challenging the mayor to single combat for rulership of the town. This is mainly for its utility as a source of cinnamon buns, of course.

ROTFL Are you sure this isn't one of those sly references to the Pixie Kittens??

Aubrey the Malformed wrote:
Yeah - the goblins aren't supposed to win. How big is the party?

Spoiler:
QFT
Wicht wrote:
I'm still trying to figure out how to keep the PCs from realizing that Ameiko is sending the Bugbears inside info on the town's defenses. They have been spending a lot of time at the Rusty Dragon, though so far they keep failing their sense motive checks against her outrageous bluff skills so maybe I'm worrying about nothing.

Spoiler:
Are you making a red herring, modify the AP, or did you mean to say Tsuto?

Yea, I'm pretty confused about this thread. The idea is not to take over the town but to gain the corpse of the cleric and cause a little Goblin mayhem with it.


Wicht wrote:
I'm still trying to figure out how to keep the PCs from realizing that Ameiko is sending the Bugbears inside info on the town's defenses. They have been spending a lot of time at the Rusty Dragon, though so far they keep failing their sense motive checks against her outrageous bluff skills so maybe I'm worrying about nothing.

You are wrong...

Spoiler:
Its not Ameiko feeding goblins info. Its Tsuto (who also blackmailed his own father Lonjiku - see RotR#1 p.11 - Goblin's in the Street)

Scarab Sages

Beastman wrote:
Wicht wrote:
I'm still trying to figure out how to keep the PCs from realizing that Ameiko is sending the Bugbears inside info on the town's defenses. They have been spending a lot of time at the Rusty Dragon, though so far they keep failing their sense motive checks against her outrageous bluff skills so maybe I'm worrying about nothing.

You are wrong...

** spoiler omitted **

No. you are wrong.

:-)

Spoiler:
Tsuto may be involved with the goblins, but it is Ameiko who is feeding the local Bugbear tribes info. Or didn't you read about the bugbears attacking in Hook Mountain Massacre?

Scarab Sages

Dualwolf wrote:

Yea, I'm pretty confused about this thread. The idea is not to take over the town but to gain the corpse of the cleric and cause a little Goblin mayhem with it.

Sheesh.

I can't believe you'd give a spoiler like that away in a thread like this. Next you'll be telling everyone the deceased priest is really a sleeping arch-lich in service to the Rune Lord of Sloth.

The Exchange RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32

Wicht wrote:
Beastman wrote:
Wicht wrote:
I'm still trying to figure out how to keep the PCs from realizing that Ameiko is sending the Bugbears inside info on the town's defenses. They have been spending a lot of time at the Rusty Dragon, though so far they keep failing their sense motive checks against her outrageous bluff skills so maybe I'm worrying about nothing.

You are wrong...

** spoiler omitted **

No. you are wrong.

:-)

** spoiler omitted **

Actually, you're wrong.

Spoiler:
It's the OGRES she's feeding intel to. They're considering having her as the progenitor of a new line of ogrekin, due to the fact that the last line of redneck orgekin isn't panning out so well. They want to try out ninja orgekin. ^_^

Scarab Sages

Sect wrote:


Actually, you're wrong.

***Spoiler: something about ninja ogrekin ***

Ogres? Ogrekin? Now you're just being silly.


Wicht wrote:

No. you are wrong.

:-)

** spoiler omitted **

Uh, you are taking about RotR #3. Then my apologies - I thought you are talking about Burned Offerings. Haven't had the chance to read Hook Mountain as of yet.

The Exchange RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32

Beastman wrote:
Wicht wrote:

No. you are wrong.

:-)

** spoiler omitted **

Uh, you are taking about RotR #3. Then my apologies - I thought you are talking about Burned Offerings. Haven't had the chance to read Hook Mountain as of yet.

Stage whisper to the Wicht

Spoiler:
Gullible lot, ain't they?


Wicht wrote:
Dualwolf wrote:

Yea, I'm pretty confused about this thread. The idea is not to take over the town but to gain the corpse of the cleric and cause a little Goblin mayhem with it.

Sheesh.

I can't believe you'd give a spoiler like that away in a thread like this. Next you'll be telling everyone the deceased priest is really a sleeping arch-lich in service to the Rune Lord of Sloth.

Oops sorry,I thought this was a DM thread, but I guess asny one can sneak a read lol, once again I apologise.

Sovereign Court

...oh my god.
Sect, wicht, you guys are terrible...

Scarab Sages

Beastman wrote:
Wicht wrote:

No. you are wrong.

:-)

** spoiler omitted **

Uh, you are taking about RotR #3. Then my apologies - I thought you are talking about Burned Offerings. Haven't had the chance to read Hook Mountain as of yet.

My condolences. Hook Mountain is a worthy adventure. But when you read it and are indignant, remember that we are but mad when the wind is north-northwest. When the wind is southerly I know a hawk from a handsaw.

Scarab Sages

Wicht wrote:
I'm still trying to figure out how to keep the PCs from realizing that Ameiko is sending the Bugbears inside info on the town's defenses. They have been spending a lot of time at the Rusty Dragon, though so far they keep failing their sense motive checks against her outrageous bluff skills so maybe I'm worrying about nothing.

As I wrote in the other post, it might be a good idea to have them make their sense motive at one point, especialy if the PCs are especialy long to get on track. You can easily improvise a search of the Kaijitsu manor by the PCs for them to find info on Ameiko's plans and other connections.

The Exchange

Cpt_kirstov wrote:

Aubrey - I think this is another response to your spoilers in title thread.

I say replace all of the gobs with gob commandos on goblin dogs

Ah - fooled me! Hooray!

The Exchange RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32

Wicht wrote:
Beastman wrote:
Wicht wrote:

No. you are wrong.

:-)

** spoiler omitted **

Uh, you are taking about RotR #3. Then my apologies - I thought you are talking about Burned Offerings. Haven't had the chance to read Hook Mountain as of yet.
My condolences. Hook Mountain is a worthy adventure. But when you read it and are indignant, remember that we are but mad when the wind is north-northwest. When the wind is southerly I know a hawk from a handsaw.

I sure hope you do; it would be mighty embarrassing if you were to attempt to cleave a tool with an avian.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Please don't use the boards to spread disinformation. I realize you're trying to fool players that you don't think should be reading these boards, but you're clearly also confusing GMs.


Vic Wertz wrote:
Please don't use the boards to spread disinformation. I realize you're trying to fool players that you don't think should be reading these boards, but you're clearly also confusing GMs.

Thank you Vic!

Imagine you are a DM later searching the boards for help and you are getting threads like this.

Just ask your players not visit these boards. If they do anyway you need to either boot the player from the group if they cheat no matter what or not play pre-written stuff.

But PLEASE, don't make the boards tougher for the rest of us to use.

Sean Mahoney

Scarab Sages

My apologies.

kicks ground shamefacedly...

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 16

As a source of red herrings and false leads, the thread was quite inspiring... I laughed until my wife wanted to throw things.

Umm, sorry. I didn't mean to be a bad influence.

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