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Are there hentai tentacle monsters in the world of pathfinder?


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What book is this archetype in?


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A "bring Law and order to Galt" Adventure Path.


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James Jacobs said no Rahadoum does NOT tolerate any divine magic. So no


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James Jacobs wrote:
xavier c wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
LazarX wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
donato wrote:
Have you ever considered architecture within Heaven? I feel like archons and angels would create structures that are perfectly symmetrical and would use lots of round shapes.
Heaven is a tricky place... there's a reason everyone studies Inferno and Purgatory in college but not Paradiso... it's easier for us to envision Hell than it is Heaven.
Don't you think it has at least something to do that in that work, Satan is a far more interesting and evocative character than God?
I think the REASON Satan is more interesting and evocative is because of the same reason I list above. Satan is easier to grasp, and thus easier to identify with and understand.
Isn't that the point of Jesus? God lowered himself down to be like humans. So humans could identify with him.(at least one of the reasons anyway)
I'm not interested in turning this thread into a real-world religious debate/discussion, because my views on religion would, I strongly suspect, offend you. Best we keep this thread to other questions.

Alright. Thank you for warning me.


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It could also be a MAGICAL BOY archetype.


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Lissala is not dead.


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I did like the hell Unleashed book so.

1)Heaven Unleashed book

2)Nirvana Unleashed book

3)Axis Unleashed book

4)Elysium Unleashed book

5)The Maelstrom Unleashed book

6)The Boneyard Unleashed book

7)The Abyss Unleashed book

8)Abaddon Unleashed book


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so you can now have that Succubus harem you always wanted.


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Nicos wrote:
Mr.u wrote:
Nicos wrote:
Mr.u wrote:


Jesus was more forward thinking than anyone else in his time. The effect of Jesus on history

Taking into account that many of the new testament is a later invention, that is probably not true.

The new testament is a collection of all jesus's teachings and known life and gospels of the disciples and paul the apostle letters.

98 percent of all historical scholars in academia agree that the new testament is a historically reliable source.

90% of people knows that 98% percent of statistic are invented.

And? The gospels of jesus's teachings and the gospels of the disciples existed before the new testament was collected but they are still historically reliable.

Oldest know Gospels have been found.

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Nicos wrote:
Mr.u wrote:


Jesus was more forward thinking than anyone else in his time. The effect of Jesus on history

Taking into account that many of the new testament is a later invention, that is probably not true.

The new testament is a collection of all jesus's teachings and known life and gospels of the disciples and paul the apostle letters.

98 percent of all historical scholars in academia agree that the new testament is a historically reliable source.


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Manwolf wrote:

Yeah the Christian religions aren't any more forward thinking than anyone else. The Puritans still hold sway in the U.S. with taboos dating back to the mid 16th century. Better watch those wardrobe malfunctions and don't say bad words on TV.

And look at the terrible things happening in India to women, cultural probably instead of religious, but Hinduism doesn't teach that attacking women in packs is right.

It's hard to tell sometimes if religion is a good thing or not, especially in our current world. So much hatred and death in the name of religion. With communication and transportation today, the world has never been smaller, and in my lifetime has doubled in population. We're way to close together not to have a better understanding of and compassion for each other, and to have these kinds of schisms is scary. When are we going to get over skin color, religion and nationality, and become citizens of the world?

Jesus was more forward thinking than anyone else in his time. The effect of Jesus on history


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Misroi wrote:
Case in point - ever wonder why Easter keeps changing the date it's on, but Christmas is always on December 25? That's because they're both originally pagan holidays. Christmas was originally Saturnalia, culminating in the celebration of the Birthday of the Unconquerable Sun (Sol Invictus) on December 25. Easter's, however, is a roaming holiday, keeping time with the phases of the moon, and has its roots in pagan holidays worshiping the spring equinox.

Sol Invictus seems to be more of a title that romans used for whatever patron god they had at the time rather then a name of any god.


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thejeff wrote:
xavier c wrote:
Voin_AFOL wrote:
UnArcaneElection wrote:
The Shogunate of Japan did manage to make Christianity in Japan for all practical purposes extinct.

Exceptions do exist. I was remarking on the majority of how these patterns tended to go.

UnArcaneElection wrote:
Usually, though, the greatest destroyer of religion is religion. Christianity not only annihilated the pagan religions that it grew up among, but it also annihilated other early variants of Christianity.

You're on the right track, but to make that statement correct, I'd have to say Christendom (a whole different, mutated beast of a thing) annihilated other early variants of Christianity, and assimilated/absorbed various forms of paganism. It's a finely nuanced but crucially (no pun intended) vital point to understanding Western history that many outside and inside the faith tend to miss.

As a believer in Christ, I would say the heretical doctrine of Christendom ("Christian domination" of the world, rather than the "love your neighbor" stuff that Christ actually taught) in its historical and modern forms has done more to damage the faith than any overt persecution.

Thanks Emperor Constantine! -_-

But that's probably a whole can of worms for another discussion. Feel free to p.m. me if you want to talk about it more in-depth.

What various forms of paganism did Christianity absorb?
Absorb isn't the word I'd choose, but Christianity did adopt many older rituals and celebrations into its traditions and incorporated many local deities as saints.

What deities did ancient Christianity incorporate as saints? This is not Surprising, As one of the titles of God in ancient time was that he was the "God of the gods" or that he was the God that the gods worship.


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Does the Iomedae's Religion have different denominations?

If yes how are these denominations different from each other?


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James Jacobs wrote:
xavier c wrote:
How do outsiders interact with the Outer Gods and the Great Old Ones?

These questions are all too broad and open-ended. "Outsiders" includes the largest subsection of monsters in the entire game, and each time we build a new one, their numbers grow. Same with the Elder Mythos.

Some of them oppose the elder mythos. Some support them. Some ally with them. Some fight against them. Some ignore them. Some don't even know about them. Some serve them. It really varies, to an extent that a hardcover book would not be enough to adequately answer the question.

If you have SPECIFIC questions, like "How do lillends interact with the minions of Nyarlathotep who play weird music in outer space?" I can go into detail there... but at the same point, I'm not super interested in answering random "how does monster X interact with monster Y?" unless there's some sort of in-game conundrum you're concerned with.

I see, Shub-Niggurath and Lamashtu seem to have a lot in common(making monsters) may I ask have they ever had an liaison(sexual?) with each other?

And there servants, do they interact with each other? Do they have alliances with each other?


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James Jacobs wrote:
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What do Succubus servants of Lamashtu look like or dress like?
However they needed or wanted to in order to get their job done. They don't have dress codes.

I see, would you say it is appropriate for a Succubus servants of Lamashtu to have a jackals head.

As Baphomet's god article said his Divine servants have bull heads.


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What do Succubus servants of Lamashtu look like or dress like?


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How do you think Iomedae, Erastil and Torag interact
with each other?


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Dragon78 wrote:
Eros/Cupid wouldn't be an angel maybe a unique type of outsider or part of a new group of outsiders.

Eros should be a god.


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Do you think a temples of the inner sea book is likely?


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So Bestiary 5 will have new angels.

1)But will Bestiary 5 have any new Agathions or Archon or Azata in it?

2)With Hell's Vengeance coming out next year will Bestiary 5 and the Hell's Vengeance AP bestiaries have more good monsters in general?


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James Jacobs wrote:
baron arem heshvaun wrote:
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There's LOTS of ways for folks to extend their lives though.
James what form of immortality would you rather come true?
I'm not sure nature would work well with ANY of them, save perhaps digital immortality, so that one.

Even that might not be possible if the laws of thermodynamics(The Heat Death of the Universe) are true.


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I don't like the sci-fi Annunaki. I would have preferred the mythical Annunaki.


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Are you talking about Summoning spells or calling spells?

calling spells(like Planar Ally)actually beings a creature from a another plane.

Summoning spells(like Summon monster)actually creates a creature for the duration of the spell and when the spell ends the creature no longer exist.


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What do you think of a romance of/in the inner sea book?


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LazarX wrote:
xavier c wrote:
You do know that mormonism is not Christianity right?

That's what a lot of Protestants say about Catholicism, Greek Orthodoxy, because neither of them use the King James Bible. Heck that's quite quite a few Protestant cliques that say that about each other these days.

On what basis do you make that statement? You do know that it's proper name is the Church of Jesus Christ and Latter Day Saints? Even Islam has an important place for Jesus Christ in the line of Prophets that ends with Mohammed. That the Mormons hold the standard Christian theology that of Christ's death as Redemption for the Human Race in total? So what exactly makes them non-Christians in your mind?

And those differences between Catholicism and the non-Catholic Christians? Important enough that the history of Europe was littered with centuries of bloody warfare over the difference, warfare which continued into my time. In fact it was with all that warfare in mine that the Founders very deliberately put in the establishment clause against a state religion in America's charter.

A Comparison Between Christian Doctrine and Mormon Doctrine There are major theological core differences between Mormonism and Christian Doctrine.

There are no major theological core differences between Catholics and Protestants besides these
"Differences Between Catholics and Protestants"

As for the warfare in Europe was basically Catholic Church teaches that priest and the pope are infallible.(basically Catholics want control and Protestants want freedom). google Martin Luther for info on how that all got started.

differences between Christian and Islam Doctrine.

jesus in Christianity.


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"Devil's Advocate" wrote:
thejeff wrote:

Well, I don't count myself an "internet expert", but I'm willing to concede WoD, with the caveat that as LazarX, it's our world with twists rather than a new creation. That said, it was also pretty Eurocentric and bits of their treatment of other cultures and groups made me cringe at the time - often being more US/European pop-culture takes than anything else.

For Dragonlance, I only read the original novels (maybe 2 series?) and a couple modules and haven't done so in decades. They did have women as major characters, though I can't really comment on their roles at this point. I don't recall (and a quick internet search doesn't help) much racial diversity - though I guess Riverwind(?) & Goldmoon(?) were basically Native American?
I may be forgetting or they may have come in later, but I don't remember any black or asian characters.

I have no idea what you mean to imply by "analogy for inclusion". You can also present an analogy for something without actually including it. In fact that's how you usually do it. The original X-Men were an analogy for racism and were all white. Then it became more homosexuality, but it was still a long time before there was a homosexual character. You could have a strong theme of "We need each other to stand strong", but just not include people of different races or give them narrow stereotyped roles.

And really, "Judeo-Christianity"? In Dragonlance? As an analogy or actual Jews and Christians? Cause that's hard to fit in.

I'm also not sure why you think Paizo shrieks in fear at including everyone. They don't have Judeo-Christianity, for what I think are obvious reasons. They haven't done much if anything with Native Americans, though there is a place in the world for them and there's been some talk of it. They do have atheism, blacks, interraciallism and heroes and villains of all sorts. So, near as I can tell, you're way off base there.

Theros Ironfeld wasn't included much in the novels as they had to trim over half of them, but he...

You do know that mormonism is not Christianity right?


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"Devil's Advocate" wrote:
knightnday wrote:

They also aren't done yet. There are portions of the world, and the gods and people therein, that haven't been touched on.

Not everything is going to be there for everyone right off the bat; that doesn't mean that they are never going to follow up.

Which is all fine and dandy, but you may want to actually look up "inclusiveness", and reconsider just how long Pathfinder/Golarion has ostensibly been in existence. It' either a "pick and choose" setting or a "a little bit for everyone" setting. Can't be both, and by it's very nature, Golarion is not a "a little bit for everyone" setting.

Don't get me wrong. I'd absolutely love for Pathfinder to catch up, and start seeing some awesome stories come from it. A single father caught between taking care of his kids and a life of adventure. A "half-breed", or heck a cajun offspring of as Mwangi and an Andoran seeing the corruption and mistrust in both their parent's peoples and trying to come to grips with life in a world that I not altered just to highlight their struggle. A classic Christian knight story. A jewish occultist. Native American Indians that are not some sort of beastmen alternate species. "The Orient" that is not some sort of secret mystic society of exoticism. There is so much ground not covered/allowed, it's insane.

Pathfinder does have Christian elements in the setting. The planes of Heaven and hell come from dante's inferno and a Paladin is a classic Christian knight. The idea of the Paladin, Cleric and Inquisitor classes come from Catholicism. And then theirs all the angels, Both Sarenrae and Iomedae have classic strong Christian elements going on. And then there's the the archangel gods Sandalphon, Jegudiel, Uriel and Salaphiel that live on the plane of Heaven.

Then there's Asmodeus(who is just a surrogate for lucifer) and all the Archdevils who come from real world religion(Baalzebul, Barbatos, Belial, Dispater, Geryon, Mammon, Mephistopheles, Moloch)


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Paladins don't have to worship gods. They get there powers from the alignment of lawful Good it's self.


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We are not talking about real life we are talking a game. In pathfinder all gods have a default appearance and race.

Why do only garundi and mwangi people have to make Iomedae or Abadar look like there race and the people the Avistan don't have to?

I think we do need some garundi and mwangi looking gods in pathfinder.


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Jatembi is not a god and he is Neutral good.


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I hope we get a new Cleric archetype that is all about Summoning.


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Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
Obviously I can't promise anything, but I AM interested in what people DO want to see in this book, and books like it. The short solicitation text is often written *very* early in a book's life.

I want to know about slavery in the inner sea.


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James Jacobs wrote:
xavier c wrote:
What CR would This guy with the cape be?
CR 1/4 at most. 'Cause he's made out of ink and can be slaughtered by an erase spell.

HA


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What CR would This guy with the cape be?


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When are you going to revel who the gods are for the deity articles in hell's rebels?


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If you could add 25 gods from the Forgotten Realms setting to the pathfinder setting who would those be?


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Icyshadow wrote:

Fun fact: Jesus is nothing more than a false prophet for Jewish folk.

They still believe in God and the words of the Old Testament, quite many rather fervently. Other fun fact is that Judaism usually focuses much less on Hell than Christianity. The omnipotent deity is harsher to the living (compare his actions in the Old Testament to the ones in the New Testament), but from what I have seen and heard from an aspiring rabbi as well as some actual ones, that Paradise called Heaven awaits all folks minus the evil ones. As for what happens to them, that's kinda hard to say. However, being non-Jewish does NOT make you automatically evil. So long as you are more or less a decent person, God has no reason to send you to Hell.

Fun fact: The first Christians were Jews

(that Paradise called Heaven awaits all folks minus the evil ones)
This sounds like a modern belief to me as The Torah, the most important Jewish text, has no clear reference to the afterlife at all.

The clam of Christianity is that Jesus ( who was god incarnate) come to this world to die for all the sins of all humanity throughout time(meaning the past and present and future). so anyone no matter who they are would have eternal life, infinite happiness, infinite pleasure and ultimate fulfillment simply by having the faith of a mustered seed in him.

hell is the absence of god


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Icyshadow wrote:

Fun fact: Jesus is nothing more than a false prophet for Jewish folk.

They still believe in God and the words of the Old Testament, quite many rather fervently. Other fun fact is that Judaism usually focuses much less on Hell than Christianity. The omnipotent deity is harsher to the living (compare his actions in the Old Testament to the ones in the New Testament), but from what I have seen and heard from an aspiring rabbi as well as some actual ones, that Paradise called Heaven awaits all folks minus the evil ones. As for what happens to them, that's kinda hard to say. However, being non-Jewish does NOT make you automatically evil. So long as you are more or less a decent person, God has no reason to send you to Hell.

Messianic Judaism


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As a Christian I don't see what the problem is. i mean the pathfinder setting has a LOT of Christian elements in it.


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James Jacobs wrote:
xavier c wrote:
Are you saying Sarenrae is BAD for you?:P

Nope. I don't recall mentioning Sarenrae at all in the quoted post.

xavier c wrote:
And are't most of that type of media just people mocking or insulting roman Catholics and the roman catholic church.?
Not necessarily. BUT, If so... then the church has done plenty to invite and deserve said mockery, in my opinion.

But it is one thing to say that some members of the catholic church were not the best of people. It is another thing to insult god/Jesus and i don't think he deserve it.


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what pathfinder god does this remind you of?


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What is a Assistant Developer?


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I asked you something like this before but i will ask anyway

1)currently how large do you think Iomedae's realm is(sense she is so young of a deity)

2)When you think of Iomedae's realm what are the biomes and geography like?.Are there savannas, Temperate coniferous forest, Tropical forest, swamps, deserts stuff like that?


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Of the core 20 gods can you list the most to lest powerful gods from 1 to 20(In your opinion)


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James Jacobs wrote:
xavier c wrote:

If someone were to use extremely powerful reality warping magic to permanently and truly create a extremely massive Demiplane. the reality warping magic also created a highly advanced civilization with a population in the billions on the Demiplane (at the same time as the Demiplane was being created)(It should also be noted the that from the populations point of view they have existed for thousands years)(the population is also truly mortal and have souls).

Now the thing is this population worships Iomedae. every man, woman and child is devoted to Iomedae and from there point of view they have always worshiped Iomedae.

Now Iomedae did not know what was going on or this was going to happen.

1)How does Iomedae react to suddenly having billions worshipers out of nowhere?

2)How would Sarenrae react this situation?

3)would this benefit Iomedae in any way?

4)what if a demigod where in this situation would they be able to handle it?

That type of effect is generally beyond the power of most mortals, and is edging into divine power... but assuming that wasn't the case, how Iomedae would react would likely be to welcome those worshipers into her church. Sarenrae probably would appreciate the fact that "team good" just got a nice big shot in the arm. It's unclear how it would benefit Iomedae, since the demiplane is self-contained and we haven't set up rules for what gods do with devotional energy or even if it matters to them. And yes, part of being a demigod is being able to handle worshipers.

But frankly... this hypothetical situation is super unusual and outlandish, so really... you could use it as a trigger for ANY story you wanted to tell.

As for the benefiting Iomedae part would something like this increase the amount souls that go to her planar realm? and in doing so increase the size of her realm and give her more outsider minions?


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If someone were to use extremely powerful reality warping magic to permanently and truly create a extremely massive Demiplane. the reality warping magic also created a highly advanced civilization with a population in the billions on the Demiplane (at the same time as the Demiplane was being created)(It should also be noted the that from the populations point of view they have existed for thousands years)(the population is also truly mortal and have souls).

Now the thing is this population worships Iomedae. every man, woman and child is devoted to Iomedae and from there point of view they have always worshiped Iomedae.

Now Iomedae did not know what was going on or this was going to happen.

1)How does Iomedae react to suddenly having billions worshipers out of nowhere?

2)How would Sarenrae react this situation?

3)would this benefit Iomedae in any way?

4)what if a demigod where in this situation would they be able to handle it?


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James Jacobs wrote:
Lava Child wrote:

Congratulations on Finishing your Shadows Under Sandpoint Campaign! I hope it ended with a bang, and that you accomplished all that you wished too! So. . . what's next?

It did indeed end in a bang! Three minor deities exiled/killed, one Bulmahn soul trapped, and lots of close calls ending, ultimately, in PC triumph!!!

Next in the Thursday night slot is "Horror on the Orient Express," with the same group but adding Jessica Price to the mix.

Who were the deities?

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