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Lady-J wrote:
Kryzbyn wrote:
I often play my druids with metal plate mail and heavy steel shields.
Reijingu Feza wrote:


My monks are all about the ragin' furor!
and both of those should be perfectly valid nothing is stopping a monk from raging and the restriction for druids not being able to wear metal is silly as metal is naturally occurring plus they can use metal weapons so the restriction on metal armor makes literally no sense
Lady-J wrote:
Tarik Blackhands wrote:
And my clerics of Caiden Caylen run thriving halfling slave markets!
also workable, clerics don't have to get spells from gods so its entirely possible to get cleric powers from else were and then worship a deity and do things counter to what the deity stands for in main stream practices

Again, rules say it..I don't like it..so in my game we ignore it because we want to. Lady-J you might be reading the CRB but you aren't playing Pathfinder.

That's what makes these threads so hard, it divulges away from rational conversation because someone wants the way they play to be the standard.

ULG out. I'm done.


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the nerve-eater of Zur-en-Aarh wrote:
Lord Mhoram wrote:

Considering Butcher is a gamer, and has explicitly stated he wrote Micheal to be the perfectly played paladin, I would agree with you. And so would Jim. :)

Heh. I was just thinking there's a sequence in Death Masks where if I were DMing Michael would totally have fallen.

This better be a crazy good pun to the fight scene where he literally falls on a Denarian


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Paladins should be more like Micheal Carpenter from the Dresden Files, I walk my path and I liked you to walk it with me but I'm not going to force you, also lets kill demons.

I'm currently playing a Paladin in a home campaign and I'm playing it pretty cool, no boy scouts you gotta obey the law stuff. My issue is more like whats been said up post about CG/CN characters being more E. Like a rogue who just takes things because he can, like focus on the quest bro stop being goofy.

EDIT: Also we have to remember IRL Laws and PF laws are different.


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Lady-J's high power game style is something of public knowledge at this point. It is possible her games aren't comparable because of it. What may be true, if irregular, for her might not carry through to some tables.


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DRD1812 wrote:
Unassuming Local Guy wrote:
Oh so we aren't even hiding the troll posts anymore? Kinda lacks the subtly of the art but okay fine.

Not a troll. The title may be silly, but the question is in earnest. This really happened to me in a recent game, and I'm trying to get the community's take.

When I assumed we were dealing with refugees, I thought it had the potential to be an interesting plot hook. In my mind we would heal up the enemy wounded, apologize for the misunderstanding, and then ally ourselves with a desperate band of honest folk who had fled the lands of Lord Evildark. For my money, that's an interesting beginning to a quest chain. It was the "JK they were just moonshiners" bit that felt off to me.

I don't mind the (very) occasional moral dilemma. It's the jerking the players around just for shiggles that bothers me. What I'm asking here is where GMs should draw that line.

Well I mean if it doesn't develop into anything further than yeah its just a dick move. If it was a hook (like you got arrested for it and met the quest giver in prison) or something more then I guess I'd be annoyed but yeah "hey look I tricked you nerds" from the GM would make me want to find a new gaming table. This actually comes in the vein for some other posts floating around the forums

Railroads v. Sandbox.

Trusting your GM.

TL;DR If it has a purpose then its less annoying, if your GM just tricked you for s&$%s and gigs then you've got a real issue.


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graystone wrote:
Unassuming Local Guy wrote:
Oh so we aren't even hiding the troll posts anymore?

If that's to me, I'm not trolling. What the OP suggests has, and will in the future, result in conflict between the DM and players. I've personally see thrown dice after 'gatcha/catch 22' situation, so while it was said humorously, it has a point: It's seen as bad form by a LOT of players and people really do flip the table/mat when they get hosed.

If it was to The_Superior_Dudemeister, I think that has a point to. 1 'gatcha/catch 22' is too much so asking how many more is ok is kind of... Well, why not suggest an absurdly large number to illustrate the absurdity of the question?

No my apologizes, this was to OP. I honestly thought this was a troll post in the vein of goblin orphanage/does the paladin fall type nonsense that gets in the way of honest to goodness bloodshed.

I'm amazed at how quickly people get bored with endless class combinations, 6 books deep of monsters and much more to play Chinese Room thought experiments and apparently trick their friends into war crimes.


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Oh so we aren't even hiding the troll posts anymore? Kinda lacks the subtly of the art but okay fine.

When did d20 games become a giant stage to tests morality and perils of humanity?

I feel like its pretty easy to give the PCs an out in this kind of situation, and not doing so is just you doing a Mister Burns behind the DM screen as they fall into "your trap".


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Oh hey thread, haven't seen you in a while.


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Lost In Limbo wrote:
Unassuming Local Guy wrote:
Nefreet wrote:
If your GM is allowing 3.5 items in their Pathfinder game (Celestial Plate is not a Pathfinder item) then it should work, pending their approval.

It claims its from a PF module Skeletons of Scarwall.

Not saying you are wrong, I'm curious as to what I'm reading, its quite possible I'm mistaken and I could learn something from this. Is it not a "PF legal" module or something? (I'm not goung to even ask if its PFS legal)

Skeletons of Scarwall is a very old module, from back when Pathfinder was just a campaign setting and not a separate game system from 3.5.

Thank you, that makes so much sense and is very helpful


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Nefreet wrote:
If your GM is allowing 3.5 items in their Pathfinder game (Celestial Plate is not a Pathfinder item) then it should work, pending their approval.

It claims its from a PF module Skeletons of Scarwall.

Not saying you are wrong, I'm curious as to what I'm reading, its quite possible I'm mistaken and I could learn something from this. Is it not a "PF legal" module or something? (I'm not goung to even ask if its PFS legal)


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There's some good advice here

Improved Initiative: Spiderman


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Ha, my next thread might be Tarrasque v Lucifer


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Zhangar wrote:
I know part of of the point of this to be a thread about bashing fighter

Actually the point of this thread is that I have crazy thoughts I'd like to submit to the community to see how deep they take the rabbit hole. Be it fighter/wizard/monster I just like where the discussion goes.


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I think it would be interesting to switch over to a 20th lvl wizard or the like taking a bath and getting jumped but I know the outcome is much different (spoiler everyone dies or the spellcaster gets away)

Hmm I wonder what the most interesting way the bather (be her fighter, wizard, monster or something else) could defend himself and win.

Off the top of my head a Bard uses Deadly Performance to dance an assailant to death.


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All while the Balor nearby continues to wash himself..


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I like the list of martials in this situation. I'd like to entertain the idea of practically any class.. Hell anyone in this situation (the idea of a Balor taking a bath makes me giggle)

To the caught off guard, the surprise rounds probably aren't fun, especially if the attackers have thoroughly researched the victim and Oceans 11'd their attack.

But access to magic definitely tips the survivability scales for the bathing.


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We assume nothing and everything for the sake of entertainment value

Edited: spelling and because I thought I double posted lol


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Title says it all. Lets assume he is naked (or at less without his weapon in hand). What are some good strategies for the fighter.

See this thread for reference to the source of the question.


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Dresden Files anyone?

Skin Game follows a very similar plot. Steal something from a place that cannot be stolen from

Book Spoiler:
They are stealing the actual cup of Christ from none other than Hades himself.

I can't think of anything better than ending on a dead magic plane with a an admantine golem. That's true fear.

Whatever you decide make sure to write it up and share, that sounds like an interesting scenario idea


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This could lead to a nasty one-shot campaign where-in you fight through waves of different Slivers to finally confront the Queen/Overlord/Hivelord with a host of varying abilities.

Actually....different slivers showing up would be a great way to showcase all the different PF abilities and effects to newer players. Or just a great way to get weirder ones into play. The party would definitely need to prioritize certain Slivers over others...

Now I'm hooked..


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Hoping for an epic story about how someone for some reason used wish to duplicate prestidigitation and win the game/defeat the BBEG/do something epic.


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Ooo, people that are arbitrarily try to be difficult or derail the game. Like the one bad guy in a good/neutral party.

I'm here to hit stuff and dungeon raid...Let's stick to the simple and do that while our wives let us out of the house of the night.


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Honestly, and I can feel the hate being slowly turned my direction..But anytime you ask for build advice on something simple and someone responds with "Well why don't you try a Vivisectionist/Archaeologist/Wizard/Thug/1st World Summoner Tiefling with the Blighted Racial trait, swapped for this this this and these background traits and about a hundred other subtle changes...

And I'm like "I'm just trying to build a character for RoTRL..."


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Certain spells have the tag "acid" (without quotes) right next to the school of magic.

Three examples are Acid Splash, Acid Arrow, and Acid Fog

We have it house ruled that the use of these spells slowly shift your characters biological makeup into that of a ooze.

But my question is, should it?

Happy Thanksgiving Guys


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Adding to Necro Dire Croc lore....I love watching this story evolve. Definitely my new favorite Rule of Cool moment


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Well then one of us upstanding gentlemen should record the grapple...for.....posterity .