Oof. Good luck with the heat, everyone.
Meawnwhile, where I am it's currenlty peeing with rain. I've worn summer clothing maybe 5 days this month!
I think the lseson here is don't unleash things with DR and wings and fast healing on level 2 PCs. This has taken 2 weeks of RL play and it's going to go on for ever. I know it's tempting to blame the dice but even if we'd hit more often we wouldn't have done much damage.To say nothing of one that can turn invisible at will. I'm not entirely sure why imps are considered CR 2. Mind you, this one is more challenging than others might be.
That too. TBH, a lot of this is only being able to roll 1 attak/round. Once of the few things PF2 got right IMO was adopting the revised action econcnomy from PF Unchained
Yeah, the heat is wearing on me too. I'm under that NW heat dome. It was 108 here yesterday and today could potentially go to 116. Tomorrow will be a suddenly mild sounding 98.
I'm more than a little cranky. I'm among the many here who don't have AC since there's always only been a need for it maybe 10 days out of the year. I guess I'll be getting AC.
I think the imp encounter is just one of those things that doesn't translate over to PbP very well. My guess is the idea behind it was to gently introduce the problems with handling devils in a way that might cause some frustration but not real harm.
Around a table it might stretch out to an hour with our bad dice rolls, but in PbP it becomes a couple of weeks+ of wheel spinning. It's harder to see the humor, and the lack of progress grates more than it might at a table.
It happens. It's hard to know what works and doesn't when the medium of play changes.
True, true. It would also help to have another level under your belts, which is possible, if you didn't find out about her sabotage immediately. I think they intended for her to be more mysterious than I've portrayed her, but then, they seem to assume that based on a few oversights.
Another level would defintly have maed this a lot easier: Vantine and I get 2nd level spells - including a Force attack that bypasses DR, plus evry time I channel I'm healing 2d6 instead of 1d6.
Plus, I think 2nd level cleric spells have access to buffs that give a weapon good damage. Specifically, align weapon would have overcome her DR much more easily and consistently. But yes, I think I will strive to handle things differently should something else similar come up.
That said, you specifically may wish to invest in some ranged options, Aisling, just because getting into melee isn't always possible, and none of the cleric cantrips offer that.
Yeah, the heat is wearing on me too. I'm under that NW heat dome. It was 108 here yesterday and today could potentially go to 116. Tomorrow will be a suddenly mild sounding 98.
I'm more than a little cranky. I'm among the many here who don't have AC since there's always only been a need for it maybe 10 days out of the year. I guess I'll be getting AC.
Ouch! That's insane heat! My area is only having highs of 95-97 for the next three days, but we've got the humidity to go with it; forecast nighttime temperatures have gone up since my last post from 72 to 74-76. Sleep will be at a premium; grumpiness will ensue shortly and likely be dispensed freely.
So happy I invested in a couple of small but powerful Honeywell fans last year--the last line of defense.
P.S. - Yeah, imps suck, too.
2nd level spells... <Drool>
That's true and a really big deal Jessibel. It's low humidity here so the higher numbers are still damn uncomfortable but probably no worse in effect for people than your lower ones. I'm originally from Tennessee with its summer of mid-90s temps and 80% humidity. I also lived in Cairo for a year with it's summer of 110 temps and 20% humidity. Cairo wins for comfort and livability hands down.
Yes - my shppoing list is a silver longsword and a crossbow with silver-tipped bolts. Ranged ooptions for clerics are horrible, btw.
Those sorts of temperatures sound bad - i had to convert them to Celsius of course - take care of yourself! Lots of water. I think I'm odd in that I actually like the humidity. I spent a summer in the tropcs when I was at university and my skin has never been clearer than it was then - it's like having moisturising cream on all the time :)
Do you think Vantine could find some silver fingernail polish? :p
Aisling: Here's a tip, save a little longer and go for silversheen over alchemical silver for the longsword. It doesn't deduct the 1 point of damage for slashing weapons.
@VAntine - I absolutly will want to go silversheen eventually, or maybe even mithral, but right now even the -1 is better than running into DR 5 every round :)
We gots to reforge the silver mace into a longsword for our holy warrior.
Well, that was surprisingly close in terms of being potentially struck.
We gots to reforge the silver mace into a longsword for our holy warrior.
Hey--don't forget about your silver balladeer sidekick! She needs silver or mithral weapons, too!
(Unfortunately, she's currently pretty much destitute after paying for Rexus's medicine.)
Did you end up paying for his medicine? Or for the spell? Because the latter is what they used, and the former just would've gone to waste. Though if you want some vials of antiplague, that's not a bad investment.
Did you end up paying for his medicine? Or for the spell? Because the latter is what they used, and the former just would've gone to waste. Though if you want some vials of antiplague, that's not a bad investment.
Eh, I don't know--I think all that was going on during my time in a covid fog. All I remember was Jessibel having 333 gp to her name and that Rexus's cure was supposed to cost less than that, so she had it covered.
If we ended up having a spell cast to deal with it, she'd have contributed to that instead. Let me know how much I should subtract from Jessi's funds.
135 gp, but I'm not sure who paid for it. Probably Aisling, 'cause it was her superior who cast the spell?
I, uh, don't remember.
Note that while letting her go would count as a "good" act, morally speaking, killing her would not be "evil." As she is, uh, a piece of evil embodied. Also, sparing her might not be wise either...
I'm going to assume Vantine isn't privy to any conversation taking place since she's running in the opposite direction and is focused on finding the contract, which she's now pretty sure exists because the papers Rexus has are down in the Wasp's Nest.
She'll destroy it when she finds it. She just wants this all ended, and dead or banished back to hell are both versions of ended.
I mean, the imp is kind of shouting. But no, she doesn't have to be, if you think that makes more interesting story.
EDIT: At the moment, she's only 25 feet from the melee.
Is that close enough to hear what's happening? If so she's still going to go get it, but won't destroy it just yet.
Yep, it is close enough to hear. The Perception DC for hearing it would be... 2. So, uh, no real excuse for not hearing it.
Yeah, the heat is wearing on me too. I'm under that NW heat dome. It was 108 here yesterday and today could potentially go to 116.
Sounds like you made it: record high of 116 in Portland, Oregon yesterday. I'm up at 2:30 AM and it's still 77 outside here. Yuck!
Yep, it is close enough to hear. The Perception DC for hearing it would be... 2. So, uh, no real excuse for not hearing it.
Cue Vantine rolling a 1 :P
It's raining again here where I am. I think you stole my summer :(
I'll give Nyxra another couple hours to post her action, 'cause this is kind of important, but after that I'll bot her and let you guys make your decisions more easily.
Yeah, don't I know it Jessi. Honestly it wasn't so terrible. After about 110 it's just hella hot and another few degrees makes no difference. Mostly I was worried about my dog, since it does really makes a difference for animals.
I was making her hockey puck sized beef broth popsicles in a muffin pan and feeding her those to help her keep cool. I have a kiddie pool I'd bought, hoping she would spend some time in it to stay cool. But she mistrusts the hose for some reason, so by extension she didn't like the pool. I'd have to keep changing the water in it since I was only putting a little in and it would heat up to tea making temperature after a little while and she would just bark at it.
But we survived and it's over now.
Did I move Vantine in the wrong direction again yesterday? For some reason the Wasp's Nest map is so confusing to me.
Oh, and Vantine doesn't care one way or another what happens to the imp as long as it's gone. She definitely wants the contract in hand for insurance in case the current beatdown fails again and we're back to square one for the second or third time.
Nope, that's the right direction.
Actually, a pinned creature is absurdly easy to hit. -4 AC and no Dex bonus... but she might get cover. Probably not, though.
Okay, it's over! That's the last time I'm throwing a flying, regenerating, invisible-at-willing enemy at you until at least 5th level.
Please mark your statuses in your profiles:
Mind you, these will change by the next time we have an encounter, so I trust you guys to have kept up on those until next combat.
So, uh, remember how I said she failed all of her UMD checks? Well, now you get to have the items she might've used against you!
So, yes, while Vantine can't put any of the scrolls in her mirror yet, she will be able to next level. I think that that'll happen after a few more personal outings to right wrongs.
Yes, that's a nice little clutch of witch-able spells! Thanks GM!
They're nice choices because they look fun, but aren't ones I probably would have chosen for my 2 spell per level allotments.
Except for Summon Monster III, that one is a fundamental.
And I only had to change one of them!
Okay, it's over! That's the last time I'm throwing a flying, regenerating, invisible-at-willing enemy at you until at least 5th level.
Thank you :)
I make no promises about enemies with any one of those things, though.
Not much of a spoiler, since you've already seen Nox and her super-regeneration.
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Well it wououldn't be an Infernal campaign if you wern'et strictly adhering to the literal wording! ;)
I meant to imply that the Raven suspects Vantine isn't being entirely sincere. But he likes her more than he suspects her lol
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Ah! Well alright then. Poor guy.
Does Jessibel want the Pipes of the Sewers from the imp loot?
Oh, and what color is the silk cloth we got?
Does Jessibel want the Pipes of the Sewers from the imp loot?
100% NOT her style! Let's sell it.
Vantine: This isn't a rebellion phase, just checking to see whether you want any personal righting of wrongs before I move you on to the next one. That is, if you want to pursue any of the rumors you've heard, etc.
Are there rumors and such we could split up and tackle on our lonesomes without disrupting the flow of the game for everyone? The Raven is interested in all the things we've heard about the devil's nursery so far.
Hm... that one he can check into, but it would probably be easier OOC to have everyone there for a more in-depth investigation. If he wants to get at rumors, that'd be easy enough on his own. Trying to talk to people who've found the bodies, etc. would be more of a group effort, in the interests of game flow.
Aside from looking for information on Narcelia, could Vantine also try to collect more rumors? It seems we have a couple that need the party along, the Red Jills and the Devil's Nursery murders. I'm not remembering or finding any more?
I think you've got the two main threads, yeah. There's also possibly investigating the ruins of the places from the Night of Ashes, but that's been put on the back burner until the snow's cleared up.
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I'm pleased to see that a few of my home-brewed plot elements are showing hints of coming to fruition - seriously, I've had some of this planned since a few weeks after we started, if not earlier.
My hard limit on forward planning is mostly for the book we're in - I try to restrain my enthusiasm beyond even the part of the book we're in, but after that, I only type out vague ideas.
To be transparent, Aisling almost made the Gather Information check that would've given her some handy information. As it is, the tieflings were just suspicious enough of her to reject her. Unfortunately.