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Here's a discussion thread for OOC table banter, questions, and rules debates.

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Just an FYI about where we are in Golarion's timeline. At the start of the campaign, the Whispering Tyrant has not yet broken out of Gallowspire. So, as far as the PCs are concerned, life in Lastwall and the Lake Encarthan region is chugging along under the status quo.

First Gameplay Post to follow...


Male Aasimar N Spiritualist (Phantom Blade) 6 | HP 47/51 | AC 19 (21 w/ steel shield; 23 w/spell shield) T 12 FF 18 (20) | CMB +8, CMD 19 | F: +9, R: +5, W: +8** | Init: +1 | Perc: +8, SM: +12 | Speed 30ft | TBD | Spells: 1st 3/5; 2nd 4/4 | Active conditions: shield

Want to go back through the room descriptions to see if we can figure out this puzzle, but it seems like the sword and the wings are part of it since those have been prominent motifs, including in this room. Don't have time right now to do it, but will later this morning, or someone else is welcome to as well.


Male Aasimar N Spiritualist (Phantom Blade) 6 | HP 47/51 | AC 19 (21 w/ steel shield; 23 w/spell shield) T 12 FF 18 (20) | CMB +8, CMD 19 | F: +9, R: +5, W: +8** | Init: +1 | Perc: +8, SM: +12 | Speed 30ft | TBD | Spells: 1st 3/5; 2nd 4/4 | Active conditions: shield

when I have a little more time I'd like to engage in the pre-sleep banter . . . maybe tomorrow, but we can do that retroactively if folks are ready to move forward.


Male Aasimar N Spiritualist (Phantom Blade) 6 | HP 47/51 | AC 19 (21 w/ steel shield; 23 w/spell shield) T 12 FF 18 (20) | CMB +8, CMD 19 | F: +9, R: +5, W: +8** | Init: +1 | Perc: +8, SM: +12 | Speed 30ft | TBD | Spells: 1st 3/5; 2nd 4/4 | Active conditions: shield

Since we leveled I figured it would be helpful to take stock of loot. Not in great order as some is when i remembered to write it down and others when I went back through Tim's posts to see what I missed:

Wand of create water with 28 charges [who carries?]

Three doses of belladonna [Annalise?]

Two scrolls of lesser restoration

Coins in bowl? [Tim how much?]

10 lbs of silver, ivory, and gold leaf worth 260 gp

Four potions of cure moderate wounds [one apiece]

five potions of cure light wounds [one apiece + extra to Red?]
a healer's kit
a holy symbol of Aroden
masterwork heavy mace
three pearls (worth ??gp)
Mithral Breastplate (Vyr)
Shield that was with breastplate (anything special? Wood or metal?)
Alchemical Silver Longsword (Vyr)
Pharasma shortsword

“Inside the box are the rotted remains of a bridle and harness, along with some baubles that look valuable.” (June 15th) [Tim how much?]
“There a few gleaming baubles among the dead.” (June 18th) [Tim how much?]

Bead of Bless from a Lesser Strand of Prayer Beads. (It lets you cast Bless once per day.) [who has?]

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Sorry, I wasn't sure if you guys were looting this stuff or not. At one point I thought I read somebody's post to mean you didn't want to plunder the famous tomb in town. (Which I took to be RP above and beyond the call since your PCs would have thought they were in Roslar's Coffer.)

I'll get the prices and I'll keep a google spreadsheet going forward.

Brian, thanks for tallying the loot.


Male Aasimar N Spiritualist (Phantom Blade) 6 | HP 47/51 | AC 19 (21 w/ steel shield; 23 w/spell shield) T 12 FF 18 (20) | CMB +8, CMD 19 | F: +9, R: +5, W: +8** | Init: +1 | Perc: +8, SM: +12 | Speed 30ft | TBD | Spells: 1st 3/5; 2nd 4/4 | Active conditions: shield

Oh, I think that's probably true initially, but once Vyr starts taking armor and weapons I think his morals loosen up quite a bit, but that doesn't mean we took the loose coins and baubles. Given we're in the Boneyard, not imagining we'll be buyings/selling anything anytime soon.

BTW, what a great twist. I had it spoiled for me because I had heard the first book takes place there, but I think it is well done and I hope someone didn't know and could enjoy it!

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Then again, those aren't the real baubles in the tomb in Roslar's Coffer. They're some weird Boneyard facsimile of them and there's no moral reason not to take them.

I hope you guys enjoyed the reveal! One of the reasons I wanted to run this AP was the sheer novelty of the start. Also, the Whispering Tyrant, so there's loads more to go!


Male Aasimar N Spiritualist (Phantom Blade) 6 | HP 47/51 | AC 19 (21 w/ steel shield; 23 w/spell shield) T 12 FF 18 (20) | CMB +8, CMD 19 | F: +9, R: +5, W: +8** | Init: +1 | Perc: +8, SM: +12 | Speed 30ft | TBD | Spells: 1st 3/5; 2nd 4/4 | Active conditions: shield

Ok, well for the sake of relative WBL, we could run back in and grab what we had left once we realized that.

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Since we leveled I figured it would be helpful to take stock of loot. Not in great order as some is when i remembered to write it down and others when I went back through Tim's posts to see what I missed:

Wand of create water with 28 charges [who carries?]

Three doses of belladonna [Annalise?]

Two scrolls of lesser restoration

Coins in bowl? [Tim how much?]

10 lbs of silver, ivory, and gold leaf worth 260 gp

Four potions of cure moderate wounds [one apiece]

five potions of cure light wounds [one apiece + extra to Red?]
a healer's kit
a holy symbol of Aroden
masterwork heavy mace
three pearls (worth ??gp)
Mithral Breastplate (Vyr)
Shield that was with breastplate (anything special? Wood or metal?)
Alchemical Silver Longsword (Vyr)
Pharasma shortsword

“Inside the box are the rotted remains of a bridle and harness, along with some baubles that look valuable.” (June 15th) [Tim how much?]
“There a few gleaming baubles among the dead.” (June 18th) [Tim how much?]

Bead of Bless from a Lesser Strand of Prayer Beads. (It lets you cast Bless once per day.) [who has?]

Sorry, Brian. I meant to post a response to your questions. The shield is a masterwork steel shield, no magic or special materials.


Male Aasimar N Spiritualist (Phantom Blade) 6 | HP 47/51 | AC 19 (21 w/ steel shield; 23 w/spell shield) T 12 FF 18 (20) | CMB +8, CMD 19 | F: +9, R: +5, W: +8** | Init: +1 | Perc: +8, SM: +12 | Speed 30ft | TBD | Spells: 1st 3/5; 2nd 4/4 | Active conditions: shield

Ah, ok. I guess I'll keep it for the time being.

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I moved you guys forward because you seemed more interested in diplomacy than fighting, but if you want to keep battling the dolls, just let me know and I'll move you back.


Male Aasimar N Spiritualist (Phantom Blade) 6 | HP 47/51 | AC 19 (21 w/ steel shield; 23 w/spell shield) T 12 FF 18 (20) | CMB +8, CMD 19 | F: +9, R: +5, W: +8** | Init: +1 | Perc: +8, SM: +12 | Speed 30ft | TBD | Spells: 1st 3/5; 2nd 4/4 | Active conditions: shield

I'm waiting for A-L to do the talking here, just because it seems most appropriate. Willard could always step in, too.

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Female NG Changeling Witch 6 | HP 30/36| AC 13 (17) TAC 12 FF 11 | F: +7, R: +5, W: +8| Perc: +1 | Speed 30 ft| Spells: 3rd 3/4, 2nd 4/6, 1st 5/7| Conduit surge 5/6|Active conditions: staggered | Hero pts: 1

Sorry, forgot to check the thread this week
my bad :(

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No worries. I definitely lost track of a few things over the holidays! I hope I did Annalise some justice!

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Female NG Changeling Witch 6 | HP 30/36| AC 13 (17) TAC 12 FF 11 | F: +7, R: +5, W: +8| Perc: +1 | Speed 30 ft| Spells: 3rd 3/4, 2nd 4/6, 1st 5/7| Conduit surge 5/6|Active conditions: staggered | Hero pts: 1

Definitely!

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Female NG Changeling Witch 6 | HP 30/36| AC 13 (17) TAC 12 FF 11 | F: +7, R: +5, W: +8| Perc: +1 | Speed 30 ft| Spells: 3rd 3/4, 2nd 4/6, 1st 5/7| Conduit surge 5/6|Active conditions: staggered | Hero pts: 1

Sorry, havent been able to access the pbp till today.

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”Red” | Male LN Medium Human Unchained Monk | HP 50/50 | AC 24 (27 w/ Barkskin) T 22 FF 17 (20 w/ Barkskin) | CMB +7, CMD 28 | F: +8(immune to all disease), R: +13, W: +7 (+9 vs enchant) | Init: +8 | Perc: +10, SM: +9 | Speed 50ft | Stunning fist7/7 FortDC16 (18) | Ki pool 4/6 | Active conditions: barkskin; curse: -4 attacks, saves, skills. auto confirm bad crit.

no worries! I was having a hard time with it for ages as well.

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Happy you're back!

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Female NG Changeling Witch 6 | HP 30/36| AC 13 (17) TAC 12 FF 11 | F: +7, R: +5, W: +8| Perc: +1 | Speed 30 ft| Spells: 3rd 3/4, 2nd 4/6, 1st 5/7| Conduit surge 5/6|Active conditions: staggered | Hero pts: 1

Sorry again! too much going on
Also, I totally forgot I had the pyrophile trait :P

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”Red” | Male LN Medium Human Unchained Monk | HP 50/50 | AC 24 (27 w/ Barkskin) T 22 FF 17 (20 w/ Barkskin) | CMB +7, CMD 28 | F: +8(immune to all disease), R: +13, W: +7 (+9 vs enchant) | Init: +8 | Perc: +10, SM: +9 | Speed 50ft | Stunning fist7/7 FortDC16 (18) | Ki pool 4/6 | Active conditions: barkskin; curse: -4 attacks, saves, skills. auto confirm bad crit.

all good. I'm now intrigued regarding this pyrophile situation

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Ja, me too. Bring on the flames!


Male Aasimar N Spiritualist (Phantom Blade) 6 | HP 47/51 | AC 19 (21 w/ steel shield; 23 w/spell shield) T 12 FF 18 (20) | CMB +8, CMD 19 | F: +9, R: +5, W: +8** | Init: +1 | Perc: +8, SM: +12 | Speed 30ft | TBD | Spells: 1st 3/5; 2nd 4/4 | Active conditions: shield

I know things get crazy for Robyn and Matt, and I had time, so didn't mind doing it. No worries, Tim, no pressure on you to do it - I think it's fine either way, but GMs have enough to do.


Male Aasimar N Spiritualist (Phantom Blade) 6 | HP 47/51 | AC 19 (21 w/ steel shield; 23 w/spell shield) T 12 FF 18 (20) | CMB +8, CMD 19 | F: +9, R: +5, W: +8** | Init: +1 | Perc: +8, SM: +12 | Speed 30ft | TBD | Spells: 1st 3/5; 2nd 4/4 | Active conditions: shield

Just wanted to say that if anyone WANTS to go fight more tooth fairies, Vyr would go along, but I'm ready to move on to the next challenge. Red can't lose any more teeth!

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Female NG Changeling Witch 6 | HP 30/36| AC 13 (17) TAC 12 FF 11 | F: +7, R: +5, W: +8| Perc: +1 | Speed 30 ft| Spells: 3rd 3/4, 2nd 4/6, 1st 5/7| Conduit surge 5/6|Active conditions: staggered | Hero pts: 1

I am completely out of spells and our wand of cure light only has a few more charges. So I am happy to move on

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”Red” | Male LN Medium Human Unchained Monk | HP 50/50 | AC 24 (27 w/ Barkskin) T 22 FF 17 (20 w/ Barkskin) | CMB +7, CMD 28 | F: +8(immune to all disease), R: +13, W: +7 (+9 vs enchant) | Init: +8 | Perc: +10, SM: +9 | Speed 50ft | Stunning fist7/7 FortDC16 (18) | Ki pool 4/6 | Active conditions: barkskin; curse: -4 attacks, saves, skills. auto confirm bad crit.

Boom! been done been leveled!


Male Aasimar N Spiritualist (Phantom Blade) 6 | HP 47/51 | AC 19 (21 w/ steel shield; 23 w/spell shield) T 12 FF 18 (20) | CMB +8, CMD 19 | F: +9, R: +5, W: +8** | Init: +1 | Perc: +8, SM: +12 | Speed 30ft | TBD | Spells: 1st 3/5; 2nd 4/4 | Active conditions: shield

What'd you get/take?

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”Red” | Male LN Medium Human Unchained Monk | HP 50/50 | AC 24 (27 w/ Barkskin) T 22 FF 17 (20 w/ Barkskin) | CMB +7, CMD 28 | F: +8(immune to all disease), R: +13, W: +7 (+9 vs enchant) | Init: +8 | Perc: +10, SM: +9 | Speed 50ft | Stunning fist7/7 FortDC16 (18) | Ki pool 4/6 | Active conditions: barkskin; curse: -4 attacks, saves, skills. auto confirm bad crit.

got my ki pool and ki strike (no ki power yet - so just counting my body as magical for DR and getting an extra attack at the cost of a ki point), and I'm sticking with my goal of being the first monk to have multiple stunning fists land - so Mantis Style to up the DC by 2.

anyone else getting anything interesting?


Male Aasimar N Spiritualist (Phantom Blade) 6 | HP 47/51 | AC 19 (21 w/ steel shield; 23 w/spell shield) T 12 FF 18 (20) | CMB +8, CMD 19 | F: +9, R: +5, W: +8** | Init: +1 | Perc: +8, SM: +12 | Speed 30ft | TBD | Spells: 1st 3/5; 2nd 4/4 | Active conditions: shield

Tim, are we using Automatic Bonus Progression? If so, everyone gains a +1 resistance bonus to saves this level.

Vyr gets a number of cool things. He can now manifest his sword as a swift action - the glowing ectoplasm hasn't been an issue in the Boneyard, but presuming we get back to Golarion, seems handy. It also becomes a +1 weapon. He's taking Power Attack as his bonus feat and Steadfast Personality as his regular feat (allows him to use Cha bonus instead of Wis on mind-affecting things). Added Telekinetic Projectile and Burst of Adrenaline as spells.

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Female NG Changeling Witch 6 | HP 30/36| AC 13 (17) TAC 12 FF 11 | F: +7, R: +5, W: +8| Perc: +1 | Speed 30 ft| Spells: 3rd 3/4, 2nd 4/6, 1st 5/7| Conduit surge 5/6|Active conditions: staggered | Hero pts: 1

yay! I will update with new level tomorrow

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”Red” | Male LN Medium Human Unchained Monk | HP 50/50 | AC 24 (27 w/ Barkskin) T 22 FF 17 (20 w/ Barkskin) | CMB +7, CMD 28 | F: +8(immune to all disease), R: +13, W: +7 (+9 vs enchant) | Init: +8 | Perc: +10, SM: +9 | Speed 50ft | Stunning fist7/7 FortDC16 (18) | Ki pool 4/6 | Active conditions: barkskin; curse: -4 attacks, saves, skills. auto confirm bad crit.

ooh. I would not shake a stick at an additional +1 to my saves right about now :-)

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IDK about automatic bonus progression. What do you guys think?

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Female NG Changeling Witch 6 | HP 30/36| AC 13 (17) TAC 12 FF 11 | F: +7, R: +5, W: +8| Perc: +1 | Speed 30 ft| Spells: 3rd 3/4, 2nd 4/6, 1st 5/7| Conduit surge 5/6|Active conditions: staggered | Hero pts: 1

I am a fan in general. Its really nice in APs where you dont get a ton of resources or opportunities to buy things
In other games we have made tweaks to how it works with multi weapon fighters.

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Female NG Changeling Witch 6 | HP 30/36| AC 13 (17) TAC 12 FF 11 | F: +7, R: +5, W: +8| Perc: +1 | Speed 30 ft| Spells: 3rd 3/4, 2nd 4/6, 1st 5/7| Conduit surge 5/6|Active conditions: staggered | Hero pts: 1

All leveled up!. So close to those sweet second level spells
Also, I think I had a stroke when I leveled last time, because I knew more spells than I should have. Sorry about that.

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”Red” | Male LN Medium Human Unchained Monk | HP 50/50 | AC 24 (27 w/ Barkskin) T 22 FF 17 (20 w/ Barkskin) | CMB +7, CMD 28 | F: +8(immune to all disease), R: +13, W: +7 (+9 vs enchant) | Init: +8 | Perc: +10, SM: +9 | Speed 50ft | Stunning fist7/7 FortDC16 (18) | Ki pool 4/6 | Active conditions: barkskin; curse: -4 attacks, saves, skills. auto confirm bad crit.

Yeah, I'm a big fan of it as well! (in part because it's hard to imagine the monk keeping up with the group without it :-)

But obviously, I'm always so thankful for whomever is gming that I will gladly do whatever.

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Alright, let's do ABP. We can tweak as necessary. New post coming up soon (hopefully by the time you guys are up and checking this thread.)

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Female NG Changeling Witch 6 | HP 30/36| AC 13 (17) TAC 12 FF 11 | F: +7, R: +5, W: +8| Perc: +1 | Speed 30 ft| Spells: 3rd 3/4, 2nd 4/6, 1st 5/7| Conduit surge 5/6|Active conditions: staggered | Hero pts: 1

Just a head up, Tom and I are moving to Kentucky this week so internet access will be spotty. Feel free to bot Annalise as needed. The most important thing is she will do everything possible to avoid work and getting dirty.


Male Aasimar N Spiritualist (Phantom Blade) 6 | HP 47/51 | AC 19 (21 w/ steel shield; 23 w/spell shield) T 12 FF 18 (20) | CMB +8, CMD 19 | F: +9, R: +5, W: +8** | Init: +1 | Perc: +8, SM: +12 | Speed 30ft | TBD | Spells: 1st 3/5; 2nd 4/4 | Active conditions: shield
Annalise Wilblund wrote:
The most important thing is she will do everything possible to avoid work and getting dirty.

Luckily we now have Mr. Beans here to pick up the slack and not mind getting dirty.

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good luck with the move!

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”Red” | Male LN Medium Human Unchained Monk | HP 50/50 | AC 24 (27 w/ Barkskin) T 22 FF 17 (20 w/ Barkskin) | CMB +7, CMD 28 | F: +8(immune to all disease), R: +13, W: +7 (+9 vs enchant) | Init: +8 | Perc: +10, SM: +9 | Speed 50ft | Stunning fist7/7 FortDC16 (18) | Ki pool 4/6 | Active conditions: barkskin; curse: -4 attacks, saves, skills. auto confirm bad crit.

yeah, good luck! What's taking you two to Kentucky?

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Female NG Changeling Witch 6 | HP 30/36| AC 13 (17) TAC 12 FF 11 | F: +7, R: +5, W: +8| Perc: +1 | Speed 30 ft| Spells: 3rd 3/4, 2nd 4/6, 1st 5/7| Conduit surge 5/6|Active conditions: staggered | Hero pts: 1

I got a post doc position at the university of KY. Its not my first choice in terms of places to live, but the lab I am joining is at the forefront of their field (mammalian regeneration), so Im still really excited. Plus its super affordable. Im still in shock at how much living space we have now!

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”Red” | Male LN Medium Human Unchained Monk | HP 50/50 | AC 24 (27 w/ Barkskin) T 22 FF 17 (20 w/ Barkskin) | CMB +7, CMD 28 | F: +8(immune to all disease), R: +13, W: +7 (+9 vs enchant) | Init: +8 | Perc: +10, SM: +9 | Speed 50ft | Stunning fist7/7 FortDC16 (18) | Ki pool 4/6 | Active conditions: barkskin; curse: -4 attacks, saves, skills. auto confirm bad crit.

I bet! and Congrats!


Male Aasimar N Spiritualist (Phantom Blade) 6 | HP 47/51 | AC 19 (21 w/ steel shield; 23 w/spell shield) T 12 FF 18 (20) | CMB +8, CMD 19 | F: +9, R: +5, W: +8** | Init: +1 | Perc: +8, SM: +12 | Speed 30ft | TBD | Spells: 1st 3/5; 2nd 4/4 | Active conditions: shield

Glad to hear you made the move safely. Does this mean someday you can help me regrow limbs?

Do we have any magic missile or other dmg spells? Ear-piercing scream? I think we just got to decent whacks on this thing, so we might be close.

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Female NG Changeling Witch 6 | HP 30/36| AC 13 (17) TAC 12 FF 11 | F: +7, R: +5, W: +8| Perc: +1 | Speed 30 ft| Spells: 3rd 3/4, 2nd 4/6, 1st 5/7| Conduit surge 5/6|Active conditions: staggered | Hero pts: 1

lol. Maybe don't bet on me discovering the secret to limb regrowth...
But I might help figure out how to regrow your cartilage ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I can throw some damage spells down also!


Male Aasimar N Spiritualist (Phantom Blade) 6 | HP 47/51 | AC 19 (21 w/ steel shield; 23 w/spell shield) T 12 FF 18 (20) | CMB +8, CMD 19 | F: +9, R: +5, W: +8** | Init: +1 | Perc: +8, SM: +12 | Speed 30ft | TBD | Spells: 1st 3/5; 2nd 4/4 | Active conditions: shield

Treasure question: we need this trapped guys help to get the stamp, and yet there is clearly treasure in the house, like this game board, which I can only presume we are meant to take at part of the overall treasure expectation. It feels odd to be looting the house as we go. How do others feel about it?

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Female NG Changeling Witch 6 | HP 30/36| AC 13 (17) TAC 12 FF 11 | F: +7, R: +5, W: +8| Perc: +1 | Speed 30 ft| Spells: 3rd 3/4, 2nd 4/6, 1st 5/7| Conduit surge 5/6|Active conditions: staggered | Hero pts: 1

I agree its weird. This is why I never penalize player wealth in society since usually it means they just didn't steal.

That being said, I think we could requisition stuff to help us rescue the keeper of the castle and then see if he wants it back later

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”Red” | Male LN Medium Human Unchained Monk | HP 50/50 | AC 24 (27 w/ Barkskin) T 22 FF 17 (20 w/ Barkskin) | CMB +7, CMD 28 | F: +8(immune to all disease), R: +13, W: +7 (+9 vs enchant) | Init: +8 | Perc: +10, SM: +9 | Speed 50ft | Stunning fist7/7 FortDC16 (18) | Ki pool 4/6 | Active conditions: barkskin; curse: -4 attacks, saves, skills. auto confirm bad crit.

yeah, that whole system always seems so messed up. i like robyn's idea, and at least we're doing auto progression :-)

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I also think it's weird. Why don't you guys just forsake the things you wouldn't take and I'll factor it into some bonus loot that you'll come into.


Male Aasimar N Spiritualist (Phantom Blade) 6 | HP 47/51 | AC 19 (21 w/ steel shield; 23 w/spell shield) T 12 FF 18 (20) | CMB +8, CMD 19 | F: +9, R: +5, W: +8** | Init: +1 | Perc: +8, SM: +12 | Speed 30ft | TBD | Spells: 1st 3/5; 2nd 4/4 | Active conditions: shield

Move forward or back up? I'm not confident that the swarm calms down if we back up - I'd assume the "bump" that caused them to come out was flavor. I think our best bet is to keep moving forward and shut door behind us.

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Female NG Changeling Witch 6 | HP 30/36| AC 13 (17) TAC 12 FF 11 | F: +7, R: +5, W: +8| Perc: +1 | Speed 30 ft| Spells: 3rd 3/4, 2nd 4/6, 1st 5/7| Conduit surge 5/6|Active conditions: staggered | Hero pts: 1

I still have a bunch of fire to throw at them :D

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