Grehunde's Gorget's Gauntlet - GM Wayfinder - Outpost III (Inactive)

Game Master Eric Collins - France

Welcome all to Pathfinder Second Edition's scenario 1-10 Tarnbreaker's Trail.
I named this thread Grehunde's Gorget's Gauntlet to not get it confused with another I am running, but it is the The Tarnbreaker's Trail.

I am as always in a learning process, so forgive your GM for the blunders I will be making but don't you dare make a single mistake yourselves!
I hope it will be a fun run for us all.

Hereunder is what I will need from all of you.


Please take time to discuss and ask about what you don't understand or do not have yet, and, as much as you can, try and only post this when you have it all (so I have your info' in one place).

Player Name: What name do you, as a person, want on your chronicle sheet?
A.K.A.: What is the name of your character?
Class & Level: What is the class and level of your character?
Organized Play & Character Numbers: What is the PFS 2E # for your character?
Faction: What faction are you slotting?

Slow Track: Do you wish to earn Slow Track XP?

Buying / Selling: Do you wish to buy or sell any items, and have it noted on your chronicle? 

Conditions & Others: Any conditions needed to be cleared, or other things you need (resolved and) noted on your chronicle? 

Downtime: What will you be doing in your downtime (and please make your roll if one is needed)?
Have fun, and roll high!

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Player Name PaleDim
A.K.A. Elsha Ustosh
Class & Level Alchemist 1
Organized Play & Character Numbers 272301-2002
Faction Grand Archive

Slow Track No

Buying / Selling Buying four item 1 formulas for 4gp: Leaper's Elixir, Eagle-Eye Elixir, Sunrod, Thunderstone
Conditions & Others No
Downtime Earn Income Crafting: 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (9) + 7 = 16

Hey Hopper, more formula's to share :)

Welcome Elsha!

Yes, cool about sharing the formulae.

May I ask what you are Crafting?
And are you Field Commissioned?
(you are up to speed on the Crafting rules for PFS, re. 4 days prep' time, DCs etc.?)
And, if you are Crafting Alchemical items, do you have an Alchemist's LAB (not Tools)? So you can "cheat" the PFS rules a bit.

Player Name: Deevor
A.K.A.: Granitt
Class & Level: Level 1 Champion
Organized Play & Character Numbers: 12874-2002
Faction: Vigilant Seal
Factions & Reputation: 1
Starting XP: 1
Slow Track: No
Starting Gold: 9sp + Gorget
Buying / Selling:
Starting Fame: 1
Conditions & Others: None
Downtime: Architectural Lore 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (18) + 4 = 22

Gear
Starting and from Gorget
Adventurers Kit, Winter Gear, Repair Kit, Dwarven Waraxe, Chain Mail, Steel Shield, Clan Dagger (starting gear and winter gear, pigs bladder, piping, twine and cork bought/given in Gorget

Changed his Domain to Craft, will update stats soon, cos you can when at 1st level.

re. Crafting & Elsha: you are not Crafting, actually, but "just" getting money from the Crafting skill, correct?

@Granitt: yes, change whatever you want, even try things you are not sure about out.
To see what to w. when you level up to 2.

Player Name: Garang
A.K.A.: Irth
Class & Level: Warpriest Cleric
Organized Play & Character Numbers # 2383499-2005
Faction: Verdant Wheel

Slow Track: No
Starting Gold: 5,12 GP
[b
]Buying/Selling:[/b] 
not yet
Conditions & Others: -
Downtime: Earn Income w/ Swamp Lore 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (14) + 4 = 18

Hope this time Irth find anyone who interested in swamps!

Now that I'm filling this again, should my last purchase (healing potion & Winter Clothing: 4,2 Gold) written in the chronicle sheet?

Boons

- General: Legacy of the Gorget obv

Pathfinder Training

Spells 3
Free consumable: 2x Magic Weapon spellscroll

Player Name: Farol
A.K.A.: The Mad Hopper
Class & Level: Alchemist 1
Organized Play & Character Numbers: 2359780-2001
Faction: Horizon Hunters
Slow Track: Nope
Buying / Selling: Buying four item 1 formulas for 4gp, to match Elshas's investment into our learning, but I will pick what in the next couple of days.
Conditions & Others: Not that I know of ;)
Downtime: Earn Income : Crafting: 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (5) + 6 = 11 Classic Hopper downtime roll

I will post something in the gameplay in the couple few days

re. Crafting & Elsha: you are not Crafting, actually, but "just" getting money from the Crafting skill, correct?

@Granitt: yes, change whatever you want, even try things you are not sure about out.
To see what to w. when you level up to 2.

Yes, same as last time. Earn Income means make some check and see if you gain money for it. I'm not entirely clear on how the GM picks the "secret DC" it describes, but it appears I didn't make it last time.

For PFS training, I'm keeping the same options as last time. My advanced alchemy options (what I prepared with reagent batches) is on his character profile. It should be pretty clear.

Welcome to Irth and the Mad Hopper.

The DC is not secret in PFS.
The normal task is your level -2, so level 0 until you get to level 3.
The DC for a task of level 0 is 14.

Sorry, I am so much into Crafting right now I thought you were using Crafting to Craft!

Ah, cool. So then I might have made it last time? Sorry, I thought stating "Earn income" and no item was clear.

Buying the following formulas
Infiltrator's Elixir lvl 2 formula - 2gp
Cheetah's elixir - lvl 1 formula -1 gp
Silvertongue Mutagen lvl 1 1 gp

Elsha - level 1 - Alchemist - 2 Challenge Points (CPs)
Granitt - level 1 - Champion - 2 CPs
Irth - level 1 - Warpriest - 2 CPs
Farol - level 1 - Alchemist - 2 CPs

So, we are good to go.

We shall see if Stabby shows up or not.

I am fine running this with you four (or five) but if you wish to invite someone else in, or even open it up on the forums to recruit another, I am totally okay with that.
Tell me if you wish to do that.

In the avatar bar, I added the link to GoogleDocs, naming it as Grehunde's Gauntlet.
It is the same link as the one up above on top left.

Can you all go to slide 2 and put your minis up (in marching order).

Then put your names down in the three spoilers below, with your normal Init' (Stealth or Perception or whatever) ; your Perception bonus ; your Stealth bonus.

And put your normal Exploration Activity down beside the Init'.

Here is some info' on that .

I am fine playing this table as four/five depending on if Stabby shows up. We have a classical fantasy team: Cleric, Champion and 2 Alchemists :P With a rogue, we need nothing more. I think we have enough skills to cover whatever GM will throw at us :P

With regards to Hopper I will do small shufling on him (Thievery trained -> Deception trained, and rough rider feat to burn it feat).

btw. I need to read again on Crafting as I see no reason to craft items during downtime. Which means that I probably missed something :)

For Crafting, read up on Junk Tinker Feat for Goblins.

Basically you make level 0 stuff at 25% of price (-75% price) and you get one free extra day of Crafting.

Yeah, that one I understand and see the value. On top of the price discount, you get an amazing RP opportunity of having a breastplate made of iron oven, a shield made from a pan etc.

If I would be a fighter or a champion I would totally go that way ;)

I've added Hopper avatar and provided the info. Granitt I made your avatar round and with a border ;) I once heard from someone with OCD that he likes the PC avatars to be round while the enemies are square. I thought it stupid but after trying it a few times I became quite a fan of that. If you don't like it, then let me know I will revert the change ;)

i made it

Elsha - level 1 - Alchemist - 2 Challenge Points (CPs)
Granitt - level 1 - Champion - 2 CPs
Irth - level 1 - Warpriest - 2 CPs
Farol - level 1 - Alchemist - 2 CPs
Stabby Staberson - level 1 - Rogue = 2 CPs

10 CPs

So, you are in lower subtier (playing 1-2).
Unlike others who play in 9 to 5.

If the scenario calls for any adjustment based on player numbers, you will have a 5-player adjustment.

Roll high!

Slotted Boons
-[Faction] Grand Archive Champion
-[Advanced]
-[General] Legacy of the Gorget
-[General]
-[General]

PFS Free Consumable: minor healing potion

Training: Scrolls (1), Spells (2), Swords (1)
Spells Skill: Academia Lore

I think that's everything.

Slotted Boons:
- Faction: Horizon Hunters
- Sand Slide (3 uses)
- Legacy of the Gorget

Slotted Boons:
- Faction: Vigilant Seal Champion
- Legacy of the Gorget

Spells(3)
Scroll Magic Weapon
Potion Minor Healing

If any team speaks about an interesting risk or hazard that he could prepare for, Elsha may change his infused item allocation the next morning. For now they remain as follows.

Sorry, Stabby: yes, 1 mandatory check per person per day.
For the trials that are now coming up, you have to have one person attempt them.
But you can have all attempt-- to gain glory (and extra points).
As for Irth, I will see if he returns in the next couple of days or remove him and recalculate the CPs etc. since it will be 1 week w/o posting and he has not done the 1st encounter yet (will check the PFS Guide re. the rules).

So, I have removed Irth from the game.

I wrote him, saying I hoped he was just not interested and not ill or something bad.
And that removing him was only because having a non active PC impacts the other players while not taking part.

Thus we have:

lsha - level 1 - Alchemist - 2 Challenge Points (CPs)
Granitt - level 1 - Champion - 2 CPs
Farol - level 1 - Alchemist - 2 CPs
Stabby Staberson- level 1 - Rogue - 2 CPs

8 CPs so lower tier and NO adjustement.

I went back and checked and this changes nothing you have done in the race so far.

So, trek on!

Athletics or Acrobatics Check

Both were noted as being good for this Trial.

We sure rocked this trial :D

It is possible that you can spot a sabotage before you encounter it.

A PC who wants to check for signs of sabotage can attempt a Perception check.

Even if you are wary during the day, while you trek, mechanically, this check will be done after the day, before the Trials.
Just tell me then, after the day's walk, before the Trial (I'll slip it in before you do your Trial roll or whatever).

During the day you do not interact w. the teams, since you are all hiking along.
But can do so in the evenings. Before or after the trial you can see who is there etc..

GM I have a climbing kit. i dont know if you would allow me to use it on that tree, but would have lowered the DC and we might have gotten it.

That would have been fine to use.
The thing is that if you do not have the time or desire (which is perfectly fine, not a recrimination of any sort, seriously) to log in once a day in general, things move on.
Which is a bit of an issue when it impacts other people.

With regards to climbing gear, we have a common one (part of our team) and in my post I did indicate roughly using it:

https://paizo.com/campaigns/v5748p75ivl3z/gameplay&page=3#112

But my understanding was that it does not help much (instead of falling on your face, you can do a flat check and dangle on the rope). I assumed that if you fail the test, the egg falls down, and climbing gear does not help you with that.

If memory serves, the kit helps you move a bit faster (50% faster?) maybe in certain conditions only (?) - the big bonus is that it helps a LOT if you crit' fail.

But, yes, it would to not fall-- and you still crit' fail, so I would say you lose the trial anyhow.

Since Stabby is most probably not going to be more active (Stabby?) do you guys want to see which pregen you want as a fourth character in case you need a replacement? (Merisiel is the rogue, but all exist in level 1).

Since Stabby is most probably not going to be more active (Stabby?) do you guys want to see which pregen you want as a fourth character in case you need a replacement? (Merisiel is the rogue, but all exist in level 1).

Since Stabby has posted since this, I hope he will be around, I miss the rogue. Since Granitt is still unsure of him since the stab in the back....

Hoping Stabby can post once a day?

Yes i am trying lol Weekends are harder and I am working longer. I am trying to keep a post a day before i settle down for the nights

Thanks for your efforts!
I will not push you to not do 1/day (!), but even 1 every other day works (it is just if it gets more days then people get restless and lose rhythm etc.).

May the fourth be with everyone on this glorious day

The best of days! )))
Funniest one...

Sorry for delay.. work picked up last few days but should slow next week

I limit the splash to only the bear
Okay, thanks. Was quite sure. Just helps if things are said.
Sorry about not knowing you had to post faster and leave.

BLAME the wife! yes ))) We will tell her!

I moved my mini.
Thanks!

I knew this thing had a reach, but I am not used to enemies having AOO ;)
Since this one is so weak they gave him that
The thing is, the ones that have Ao0 can take you down!

And 19 is a miss?
Would be, yes.

I dont see myself on the map so i dont know if I will need any movement to be in range for my short bow

You never put a mini up for your character so I am using the one that was there.

Hey, sorry folks, but today I will not be able to post, please bot me out warrior till tomorrow. Hopper has lightning bottle of you want to make the bear flat footed and not be able to aoo. Assuming that he hits :( otherwise let us lead the beast in a random direction so that you have some breathing s space

A quick question related to Pathfinder 2e rules.

I was under the impression that when someone is flat-footed he does not get an attack of opportunity? Is it some halucination that I have related to high consumption of a mutagen? Asking for a friend, he got mauled by the bear.

If so, does it mean that the bear could have swung at Hopper who was 2 squares away and tossed his bomb (the bear has the reach)?

There is nothing in AoO that says anything about being Flat-footed or prone. The 1e rule obviously didn´t make it across as far as I can see, but our GM knows better than I do.

I also read in the forums that Champion is not a good class to take, because the best tactic is to let the enemy come to you, not advance on the monster. A champion by nature is going to advance on the enemy, hence not a great class.

Flat Footed "only" reduces your AC by 2.
That is all it does.
It also means that you have the Flat Footed condition that can trigger things done to you (Stabby gets extra damage vs. Flat Footed for example).

If so, does it mean that the bear could have swung at Hopper who was 2 squares away and tossed his bomb (the bear has the reach)?
Yes. He probably would have since you went first. I imagine I didn't/forgot that because I was not sure where/how close Hopper after the moves that were done before.

Crap now I remember, in another PF2 game one of PC where:
confused which does not let you do Attacks of Opportunity. Ok, everything is back in place.

re. Champions: that is only vs. Fighters until lvl 6 since only Fighters get AoO before lvl 6.
You have reach Champions (Paladins can add 5 foot to a Reach weapon and use their Reaction @15 ft I think, or use a Bow) and the Reaction that reduces damage + Lay On Hands is quite powerful.
I think both are powerful classes, but w. different tactics.

I did not even think of Granitt being a Champion--
--why did you not use your reaction last turn? To not attract the Bear's attention?
That would have reduced the damage to Elsha by 3 and let you Strike the bear (which you can do even unarmed, unarmed strikes can be head butts etc.).
Did you miss any others before that? (or were you out of it already, right?)

Anyhow, I will be an evil GM and retcon bot' Granitt:
• since, if you used Lay on Hands the round before when you were not acting/delaying that heals you by 6 (so you remain standing now, at least)
• and if you use your reaction just before (you get it back now since you acted) we reduce 3 dam' to Elsha (might change things later?) and you get to add this attack:
Botting the Reaction: 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (17) + 7 = 241d4 + 4 ⇒ (2) + 4 = 6
I hope it is okay ((( Do not like to do this, but it might help (and cannot hurt, if you do not use your Focus Point there, you go down, so it it is probably wasted anyhow).

Still think like a 1e player ... where I rarely if ever used unarmed ... I was thinking if I used the lay on hands, that would have attracted the bears attention to being alive, so if I was the bear I´d attack again and have dinner ready.

And the reaction I thought I would need a shield or weapon ready to be able to do that, as opposed to be lying on the floor unarmed. It doesn´t make a lot of sense being able to do that from that position.

Anyway, 2e is a different game from 1e.... and I´m still learning ... I don´t think reactions work well in pbp ... or at least I don´t really get them too well, nice and simple in 1e with AoOs... not a whole different bunch of stuff, unless it was a spell.

but heyho ....

Lying on the ground not moving is a good idea (even if we do not get into Perform rolls to fake being out cold etc.)-- but in this case, if you do no heal yourself you go down so at least let you heal just before. You did a good move to not attract the bear, but let's use the healing.

In PF2 there are a lot less AoOs, and less Reactions too.
Unarmed works well in PF2, people always threaten (even with hands full - just kick or head butt or whatever).
Non-lethal is a thing only for the last HP dealt (and vs. ones that are immune to non lethal of course).
So worth using.

The Champion's reaction is Divine Intervention, you do not even need to strike or anything for it to work.
So, as long as you are conscious, you can have your Deity work for you.