GM Valen's - Into the Unknown Quests (WITHOUT STARSHIPS) (NOW WITH STARSHIPS) (Inactive)

Game Master Lysle

A place to discuss.

It looks like most of you have already posted on Gameplay. With the holidays coming (I will be largely unavailable and have limited or no posting between roughly 12/20 and 1/3) and the impending playtest deadline, I am eager to get going.

I plan to post the briefing sometime tomorrow and then we can start heading out Into the Unknown!

This is GreyWolfXR's playtest character

Vanguard playtest question:

Improved Combat Maneuver (Sunder) - based on the rules from CRB p.246, does the assault hammer fall under the object able to be attacked?

It seems it should - lvl 1 item, 1 handed, 1 bulk.

Just checking before action phase.

Answering as a player, not the GM, so just my feeling of the rules: yes, you can sunder a weapon, thus the assault hammer. The rule says you sunder things that can be drawn easily as a move action, which a weapon is.

Vanguard playtest question:

Improved Combat Maneuver (Sunder) - based on the rules from CRB p.246, does the assault hammer fall under the object able to be attacked?

It seems it should - lvl 1 item, 1 handed, 1 bulk.

Just checking before action phase.

That sounds like a correct (and likely) interpretation.

Boy, I was trying to find a use for "infinite worlds" at level 1 but it seems almost useless. Did my readied action even happen?

I thought it was a great use of Infinite Worlds (I know I felt that power seemed rather useless on paper).

Sorry, I got slammed with work and family demands. Likely won't update for another 12 hours.

I guess it is fairly limited, at least at low levels and generally only in combat? Haven't played the class yet; despite my enjoyment of such concepts it's the one I'm least enthusiastic about. Not even sure why.

A friend found some creative uses for it during a Commencement run the other day. Subject to GM interpretation, but interesting.

It was the only use I could think of for it. It might be much more useful in Pathfinder than starfinder, considering that starfinder is all about pew pew.

I agree with what your saying (pew pew and the fact of jet packs etc.).

My feeling is that the main attraction is having a caster with social skills since you have CHA as your stat’.

If you could pick from a variety of different conditions to impose, all of which are in-line with the types of spells you can get at those levels, it would be better. Like, Difficult terrain or entangled or concealment or cover.

LOL, OZ moment!

LOL, OZ moment!

Thanks all for playing along!

My posting the next 10 days will likely be limited, but I decided not to stop completely as I think we had a good momentum going and I didn't want to break it completely.

We've completed what I think is undoubtedly the longest of the three quests, so even with limited posting for a week or so, we should still complete by January 15th-ish.

Valen, et al.

Life and family are more important, we'll get through what we get through for the next week or so.

Enjoy the holiday time, and if you celebrate Christmas, have a Merry one!

Thank you Ukigashk!
Merry XMas to all who celebrate!

Is it just me, or is there very little use to the Entropic Pool for the Vanguard at L1. The AC bonus is nice, but as the points build, there isn't much to do with them.

Or am I missing something?

I think there is nothing to do with the points at level 1 (other than have one point for the AC, as you say).

Quick question, a line of damage would indicate an x number of feet in a single direction. Thus only one, maybe two of us take hits. Does the skreebara do sonic damage in a line or a cone?

I don't mind being the target, I am just not sure due to our positioning that the attack emanating in a line from the skreebara would hit all three of us. Even if it is 10 feet wide.

Just interested in how this wide of an arc is included.

Thanks!

Quick question, a line of damage would indicate an x number of feet in a single direction. Thus only one, maybe two of us take hits. Does the skreebara do sonic damage in a line or a cone?

I don't mind being the target, I am just not sure due to our positioning that the attack emanating in a line from the skreebara would hit all three of us. Even if it is 10 feet wide.

Just interested in how this wide of an arc is included.

Thanks!

The attack is a 30 ft. line. The line attack originated from the "top right" corner of the skreebara's initial location (now indicated on the map with a green dot). Using the second template for line attacks found on page 269 of the CRB, the effect covers a total of 6 squares (3 on the "right" side of the line and three on the "left" side, which I have designated with green shapes on the Map). Thus, unless I am mistaken (and it would not be the first time) the attack catches three Starfinders, including Ukigashk within its effect.

You're the GM, you've done more of these than I have. I was looking at the templates differently, but I can see your interpretation as well.

Not trying to be a rules lawyer or anything, especially since I don't know all the rules well enough to even do what I need to do most of the time. :)

You're the GM, you've done more of these than I have. I was looking at the templates differently, but I can see your interpretation as well.

I appreciate you point out possible errors and matters of interpretation. Just because I have run this before, doesn't mean I have been doing it correctly. In the end, it didn't make much difference in this fight.

Well, gang. That pretty much concludes the final non-starship quest. I will do a little wrap up, probably Monday morning and then start working on Chronicle sheets. The end may be a bit abrupt, but I get the sense from the boards, that folks are gearing up for the specials and I wanted to conclude before then.

I hope you had fun. I sure did. Be sure to give your playtest feedback (for what it is worth at level 1).

There are still two more quests in this series, each involving starships, that can be played on the chronicle after you receive it (provided you don't receive any additional chronicles for the same PC in between). I have no current plans to run the starship quests, but I may run the series sometime again in the none-too-distant future. If I do, you are welcome to hop in for those two quests (provided there is room) and secure yourselves all of the benefits on the chronicle sheets.

Thanks again all of you for playing!

Opens an eye... "By Besmara's buns, I am not dead!"

Thanks for running this GM Valen!

It was fun! Thanks for running it GM Valen!

Thanks aplenty for the game, it was a good time!

I most likely will not get chronicle sheets to you before Wednesday, but I certainly will before the end of this week.

ALSO, PLEASE NOTE: I've been informed that Organized Play for SFS has a rule that requires a GM run 4 quests before any of the quests can be reported. This means, that I am not currently permitted to report this series of 3 quests, although I can (and will) issue chronicles for them.

As a practical matter, I suppose all this means is that this run will not show up on your "My Organized Play" page. However, as I'd prefer the game to be reported, I suspect that I am now more likely to run 1 or more of these quests in the near future (a month+ time). So, if you'd like, I will keep you posted when I do.

Hmm, that just means I'll need to spin up a new character so I can keep the one I was going to apply this chronicle to in hiatus.

[sarcasm]Oh such difficulty![/sarcasm]

Definitely let me know when you're running the next quest. Ukigashk (or the actual character) will be ready :)

Do you have a link to that SFS rule re. Quest reporting?
(trying to figure out how you report this... if you do 2 quests with one group of people, and 3 with another group).

Do you have a link to that SFS rule re. Quest reporting?

(trying to figure out how you report this... if you do 2 quests with one group of people, and 3 with another group).

The rule was first brought to my attention here. I confirmed it with Redelia via PM earlier today and she responded as follows:

Yes, you are correct about not being able to report. You should, however, issue chronicle sheets, and please explain to your players that you can't report so they don't worry when the game doesn't show up.

Thus, my earlier post doing as the venture agent suggested.

Do you know who you list on Paizo when you report?
If you do 3 parts/quests with us 6, and then another 2 parts/quests with 6 other people... how do you report in one go?
Do you put all 12 on the same report? Do you report full PPs to all?
Any idea where the post is re. all this?
(sorry to bother you)

Ok. But don't you want GM Credit? Why not run one starship fight?

Do you know who you list on Paizo when you report?

If you do 3 parts/quests with us 6, and then another 2 parts/quests with 6 other people... how do you report in one go?
Do you put all 12 on the same report? Do you report full PPs to all?
Any idea where the post is re. all this?
(sorry to bother you)

I understand that you list all players on the same report, although I have never attempted to include more than 7--reporting in one go.

I've pointed to the posts I recall on the subject, but have also exchanged emails with Redelia about it, so I consider it "official".

Ok. But don't you want GM Credit? Why not run one starship fight?

I have credit in the form of a chronicle, when if it is not completed. Nevertheless, as I suggested above, I will likely run one or both of the other quests in the future (but due to my schedule, not before the end of this month).

Thanks for all the info', I'll look into this for the ones I run...

I look forward to it.

Keep me in mind if you run the starship portions! Great adventure all.

Okay, I have resolved to just run the remainder of the quests, but to do so at a slower pace (and thus not attempt to complete a full round of starship combat within 24 hours).

If you are up for this, then you have a seat at the table and I will hold off completing any chronicle (which becomes obsolete once you complete another quest anyways).

Otherwise, if you want me to issue you a chronicle this week, then please let me know.

I am in, do you want me to bring the playtest character, or the character the chronicle is going to?

I am in, do you want me to bring the playtest character, or the character the chronicle is going to?

I assume that you can switch up characters between quests, but I am not 100% sure on that one.

Story-wise, any character will do as I will be altering it slightly anyways as the last quest usually takes place immediately after leaving Ulmarid and I plan to insert the other quest first (as it's outcome could impact the final quest).

I will drop out (not super interested in Vanguard in space).
No rush at all on chronicle sheet.
Thanks a lot!

I'll stay in, with the same character.

I'm in, same character. Thank you Valen.

Completed Chronicles are here.

Game, as noted above, won't be reported until the other two quests are complete.

Thank you very much! ))))

Looks like we have a party of four to continue on for the two starship quests. Will get an intro up before the weekend.

It seems that I have been counting chickens before they were hatched. I had said that I had planned to hold off running for a month and then jumped in with the mistaken belief that the other players who showed interest were still free.

However, based on my statements, at least one player has reasonably decided to sign up for other games and is not currently free for the next two quest.

Thus, we are currently at three players. Our options are:

1) Hold off for now [Wait until other players are free or can be recruited. [This may take some time. However, we don't seem to be in a rush.]

2) Proceed with a pregen (to be played by myself or a designated party member). [This allows us to start sooner and fewer posts make the rounds go faster (a notorious problem for starship combat via PbP). A pregen could also fill in starship skills the party currently lacks.]

I will hold my designated character free from any entanglements if we want to recruit.

I can hold on without a problem.