@Fury:
Same as a wizard: buy a scroll and copy it into your book. 160 gp for the copy-cost, and 700 gp for a 4th level Cleric Scroll.
What can I say? I’m a generous soul ;).
Besides, if that one round I do spend buffing is spent hiding in a corner of the room, I may get more than 1 round of buffing before I confront you all. Not sure if I’ll do that, but it’s a possibility.
Regardless, you’re in for a tough fight no matter what, and I’m still deciding whether or not to pull my punches. The least I can do is relieve some of your agony.
Hrm...Maybe I should ditch Legendary Proportions for Gr Arcane Sight... Knowing is half the battle!
Are you REALLY that confident you can handle all of us Eglian?
In a word? Yes. You have no idea how absurdly broken Eglian is.
Impenetrable defenses, insane versatility, absurd melee power.... he has it all. My first reaction when seeing the build guidelines of the party designed to test Eglian was something along the lines of 'Is that it?'
I never built him to see the light of play, but more of an experiment in demonstrating how inaccurate CR can be. He has so many abilities that, individually, would be considered broken and overpowered that when combined, only get worse. He is the Pun-Pun of Pathfinder. You'll see when the battle starts...
Of course, you may surprise me. I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
In a word? Yes. You have no idea how absurdly broken Eglian is.
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He has so many abilities...
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This is why Gash is prepared to turn off magic. Fingers crossed Egalian's abilities are Extraordinary...
If you could manage to turn off all my magic, I would lose a significant amount of power. By no means all of it, but a good amount. However, I highly doubt you'll be able to manage it. He just has too many defenses.
Why, exactly, are you hoping for his abilities to be (Ex)?
Whoops, meant to say I'm hoping that they're not. Supernatural and Spell-like abilities are shut off in an AMF, while Extraordinary are unaffected. That's why I built Gash around having mostly Extraordinary abilities- so his AMF wouldn't monstrously gimp him.
That would make more sense.
Well, I guess we'll have to see how it all plays out, won't we?
The main problem with that is that AMF isn't an end all be all solution... there are several ways to counter it... or just avoid it completely.
I agreed it's not (Mage's Disjunction, for one, could possibly shut it down), and I won't cast it from the get-go. But if we're inside and it can lock down our baddie and/or un-do some horrible debuff, I'm definitely prepared to use it.
Agree*
Huh, if Eglian has plenty of defenses, I might need to change some of Fagila's spells and up our defenses.
Yeah, and if we're getting a Haste buff, I'd ask that I could change out my Boots of Speed.
Yeah, and if we're getting a Haste buff, I'd ask that I could change out my Boots of Speed.
Sure, there is nothing wrong with that.
I hope the GM won't mind if I change a feat and a spell.
Giving another look over on some profiles for ways to improve our chances to survive the first wave, our wizard has contingency. Why aren't we abusing this spell?
'You can use only one contingency spell at a time; if a second is cast, the first one (if still active) is dispelled.'
So, we can only have one Contingency Spell in place per caster... and we only have one sorcerer/wizard who can cast 6th level spells.
Same as Gash concerning the Boots.
Anyway, I feel a TPK is incoming quite soon.
Well, it was never certain how effectively we would actually be...
You might be able to manage it- I have genuinely no idea how I'll do, and I do still have action economy against me. Who knows? A couple lucky hits might still take me down.
I do kind of doubt it, though. But I'd be fine with replaying it a few times under different circumstances to see how things might be different.
I hope the GM won't mind if I change a feat and a spell.
Which feat and which spell? to what?
Feat; Forge Ring >>> Experimental Spellcaster. (Will ask local alchemist to craft the rings for her instead).
Spell; Break Enchantment >>> Heroic Fortune, Mass (if applicable. If not, forget this).
Just out of curiosity Eglian, would you mind sharing a breakdown after the fight?
Sure. I usually have the whole stat block up on my profile, but I took it down for obvious reasons. He does have a couple of weak points, but as long as they aren't known, I can't be taken down with a single well-chosen spell.
*double-checks spell*
You know what, I should probably make sure I can't fall prey to that.
Is his build cheesy as Pun-Pun himself? Yes. Is it technically RAW? Also yes.
I do hope that Eglian is not browsing through our profile and spell list or tactics. (which he very likely did. *Cough*)
I didn’t. Or, at least, didn’t alter my plan/build any to accommodate it
I can vouch for the fact that eglian didn’t change his build to accommodate for your builds.
I have a question to ask: You are currently going to fight a slightly toned town Eglian. Would you like to face him at his full strength?
Let's see how we do against the slightly toned town Eglian first. We can fight the rest of the townsman afterwards.
Let's run a trial on a weaker Eglian first before we go for the full-powered one. Before that, I will need to finalize her buffing routine and purchases. By trading out forge ring for another feat, Fagila will need to rely on Dazenth to craft her ring of protection +5 and evasion for her. Do they have the same price reduction as the armor and shield that he crafted for her?
Actually, the price reduction is for the crafting limit. For what you actually need to spend? Take the price reduced price, and then divide by four.
When do we wanna get started on this? Everything's easier with a target date in mind.
From what I see, we've got a few final details to iron out: some item/build swaps, and the final buffing routine. How does Friday sound as a target? (I'm not particularly attached to it, just wanted to throw something out there.)
Might make the most sense to hold off until after the holidays. Posting tends to dip a lot and we don't want that right at the beginning of the match.
Yeah, Oros has a point. I wouldn't want to start such a fight with Christmas coming up.
Maybe after new year.
We should keep talking and sort out any item changes or spell changes and try to get a good buffing sequence up and ready, but not start until then.
A few changes on her buffing routine.
Round 2: She will cast boosted accelerate on party giving them extra move action a turn and have her mount move 30 ft from party.
Round 3: She will retrieve scroll of time stop and cast it.
Time stop round 1 & 2: Scroll of widen aura and draconic malice on herself.
Round 4: Instead of having her throw the stone, she will ask her mount to take it from her as move action and throw it onto the ground as standard action. She will use her own standard action to cast mass heroic fortune on the party and move action to take out scroll of disjunction if she hadn't in round 1. Swift actions for her mount and herself are unchanged.
Replaced a 5th level spell known for Music Beyond the Sphere Bardic Masterpiece.
She will also have our resident druid cast extended barkskin on her after loaning him her extend rod.
Almost forgot to take into account the weapons Fagila would ask Dazenth to craft other than the armor and shield. She will have him make her a +4 Courageous Masterwork Cestus & +1 MW Training (Improved Initiative) Dagger to further boost her initiative.
Merry Christmas!
Alright, so what is Dazenth being asked to be made again? I do have a limited amount of what I can craft remember.
+5 Mithral Chain Shirt
+5 Mithral Buckler
+4 Courageous MW Cestus
+1 Training (Improved Initiative) MW Dagger
I think that's it for Fagila. I should be within limits. On the bright side, it bumps her initiative to +36.
Happy New Year!
Happy New Year, all. When shall we begin?
Aren't we still concern about the lack of death ward in our group?
Ah, you’ll be fine, I’m sure ;)
People can always buy scrolls...
The one shot boss is still a vampire. Don't want to die from negative levels.
There is another way. We can do it through words of power magic variant. Our cleric can cast a mass death ward on the party if he is willing to waste a feat on experimental spellcaster, select graves bane which is the equivalent of it and boost it to cast the mass version. That way we don't need to waste one round each using the scroll on ourselves.
In relative to that, if Gash wants to add more utility to the party, he could take the same feat, choose borrow future and boost it to apply to all of us. It is cheese even if it is nerfed celerity. But we'll need every cheese and action economy against a broken enemy if he is built to be broken.
Think we need a roll call to see who is still here. Most of us turn the other way due to the holidays.
I'm here. Should we pick a end-of-planning date now?
Still here.