
Sarasanna |

Hey, good choice! I'll probably eventually choose skilled, knowledge (planes), but we'll see.
I'm not one for stringent optimization either. Instead, I'm trying to think of a really fun theme and then to develop that.
I believe the summoner's eidolon is designed to be any monster in the bestiary, if you spend the evolution points right. For my android (who I don't necessarily want to look too much like a monster!), I'm thinking more along the lines of super hero. This is the mythic AP after all!

Lucifer Graves |

Alright, thanks for the HP bump, LM! I'll try and finish out leveling up and get back in on the action--sorry about the absence, I've been busy.

Akkramar |

I'm pondering if I should take a 1pt Evolution to gain Natural Armor increase, but there are sooooo nice things at 2pts it is hard to make the choice.
Next level, with the FCB, I will have two Evolution points - Ability Increase is just flat out good, Flight is... Wow..., Immunity is brutal, Shadow Blend is uncanningly amazing - they are all good.
Even at 1pt, Skilled is just HUGE as far as satysfying my skill addiction :D
What do you guys think?

Sarasanna |

If you like skills, what could be better than a + 8 racial bonus ti your favorite skill. ;)
On the other hand, at this early stage in the game, I went with something that would help me stay alive- but that's just me. I am very likely going to invest in skilled sometime soon!
-I have been playing with the idea of magical flight- no wings, perfect mobility, but that's a whooping four evo's. I'm not sure if wings would really suite Sarasanna's theme- since she is an actual person 'reborn' I don't want her relatively human appearance to change- too much!
But yeah, flight is like- amazing. For 1 point, you can get climb too, or for 2 points climb speed of 50 ft.! Options abound! I'd recommend making a thematic choice, but again, that's just me. ;)
All that may not have been helpful, so I apologize. Still- I hope it was- at least a little! :)

Akkramar |

Quite helpful actually - I think when faced with so many options, going by a theme is the best option actually.
I am assuming that one can take the wings first, and then evolve them into magical flight - would this be incorrect?
In any case, the wings would fit perfectly my future ideas for Akkramar :D
Taking +2 to natural AC would seem quite decent to start with though - such a bonus to Armor Class at this class level is quite uncanny.

Sarasanna |

That is correct about the gradual development of flight. As the evolution is described in the APG, it seems with that assumption in mind (most probably wouldn't have the patience to save ep until four!).
I just want to maintain Sarasanna's appearance the whole time- as a key element of her theme. She may have weird abilities, but they don't show till she uses them. ;)
But hey, if wings work for your vision, then go for it! I'm really excited to see how everyone's droid develops. (^_^)
Yeah, + 2 armor, with no acp, no extra weight- is just amazing!

Sarasanna |

Seems like we're all busy. :/ With a new session at the language school, I got a major project as well.
I just posted in game play though, so we'll hopefully get these injured people up this rope soon! ;)

Sarasanna |

My thanks as well. I appreciate your patience with us! (With me in particular). ^^ I've got another post up, so I think that Anevia should be up to our place now. The real question is, how to get big Horgus and a blind elf up the rope... ;)

Lord Manticore |

Hi everyone!
I can't help but notice that, in the last week, I've heard from Dakkar once, and our ninja android about 3 times. I know that we are all busy people (myself included), but I'd like to know if there is something on my side that you guys want me to do to get this campaign moving again? Or are we really just that busy that I need to turn my patience filter up. Or perhaps even suspend the game for awhile...
Just asking for feedback here, not grumpy in the least.

Loup Blanc |

Well, my response to the question is summed up below... :/
This is a message I'm putting up in most of the games I'm in here on the forums. I feel bad about having to do this, but I'm dropping many of the games I'm in on here--pretty much everything that's been moving at a good clip. Life's become very hectic lately, and I don't see things calming down any time soon. Between everything that's been happening, my focus has been spent elsewhere, and I'm just not able to put in the time and effort to keep up with play-by-post right now.
I've enjoyed all the games I've been in here, and it's a lot of fun. You all put it in a ton of effort and excitement, and I'd love to do the same, but right now I'm not able to do that on a regular basis. It would be unfair of me to keep going dark for days or weeks at a time, but I don't think I'll be able to avoid that for a while, and I need to focus on other things right now. I'm really sorry about having to do this, but life has reared its ugly head, and I hope you all understand.
Again, I've enjoyed my time with you all, and hope that you continue to have great gaming in the future. I look forward to the day when I can return to these boards and join new games, and maybe even play with some of you again. But for now, I have to part ways from you all.
--Loup Blanc

Lord Manticore |

OK I'm putting a hold on the campaign for the moment. I had asked last week about the overall lack of posting and so far, I've gotten 2 responses (Thanks Akkramar and Dakkar), one person has bowed out (Lucifer), and the other two have (so far) not responded. It would be very hard to run a campaign with just 2 people, especially something as big as this particular AP. I don't think that I've been rude about this or anything (if you feel that I have, just tell me), but atm I'm not sure how we're going to continue. If I have not heard from everyone remaining by Friday as to whether or not we should continue, and any feedback or suggestions, then I'll be suspending the campaign and putting this into inactive status.
LM

Sarasanna |

Just put up a post! I would like to continue! Sorry for lack of posting! I am returning from a trip this weekend, so I haven't been responsive. I should have said something, so many apologies. Whether we continue with four, or suspend for a while, i would like to continue if you'll have me!

Lord Manticore |

I've noticed over the years that it seems to cycle. Summers and holidays can be good or bad, depends on if the player is a student or worker. Students tend to post more, worker's less.
One approach is to just skip that player, their character is effectively a "Mark" until the player returns.
I do see your logic, and it is a fair thing to say. My biggest concern though is that there are more 'active' NPC's in the campaign then there are active PC's right now. Loup had to drop off, and quite honestly, Bethune hasn't been around in weeks, and I think he posted only a handful of times anyway. I think it's one thing to say that we have two characters 'in the background' (i.e. Marks), but I am presently doubting that we will be hearing from either one of them anytime soon, if ever.
I'd like to see the campaign continue, however, with only three 'effectives' currently, I'm looking for other options.

Lord Manticore |

I would, although in all fairness, it will be difficult for me this week; projects here at my office are coming due in the next week, and I need to get them done.
Perhaps this will give us a chance to figure out what we actually need in the group. My plan is to slowly phase out Archie; once we get into the latter part of Book 2 and certainly in Book 3, she's going to be more of a 'desk general'; manning the fort and whatnot. I want this AP to be your show; not mine. I'll find my own group to actually play in later on.
Since I am generally assuming that we are down to three, I'd like to hear feedback from everyone on you think we need in the group; discounting Archie. Also, how many more people do we recruit?
Thanks for listening guys.

Akkramar |

Well, my plan is to make Akkramar a sort of gish [for those that can remember the word :D], so that is what I see as kind of my 'spot' in the group - I'm basing myself off Bard, so I hope to get a nice amount of skills (I am a sucker for skills, can't help it), perhaps even getting to be the group 'face' if that even makes sense for androids ;)
The group as I see it probably needs some sort of healer type, and... A ranged damage platform, that could perhaps double as a scout/trapfinder/infiltrator kinda thing? Though we all know that this kind of role can be carried out by a multitude of class and archetype combinations.

Sarasanna |

Hmmm... While Sarasanna for the time being is a versatile fighter type, capable of range and melee. However, I'm thinking she's ultimately going to be a mobile front-liner (thought still not a traditional tank). Combat for her is likely going to be dynamic, so it should be interesting to see how that plays out, especially with the other characters in the group, a small wizard and a bardic fighter-type. )
So I'd really like to play with the different movement types we are going to have access to later on. Whether with claws or halberd, she'll take the fight to the walls, ceiling, and down again. And maybe, I'll add flight to the mix as well!
So, thinking on that, should we recruit someone, we should try to find someone who really likes the whole idea of the campaign- not just Wrath of the Righteous with androids which is awesome enough, but also the advanced android template and the possibilities that opens up.
Perhaps we should see what ideas some people have with that, and how they'd work with what we have in mind. If someone comes up with a character that's really interesting and has put a lot of thought into the possibilities the campaign has to offer, my thought is, the new player is more likely to be invested in the game.

Akkramar |

Well, I'm planning on building Akkramar as a frontliner - honestly 'a tank with a twist' I had already offered to grab a shield and up my AC, but we haven't found one yet :)
I can't be sure of how dramatically effective he will be, since I never tried the concept out, but I'm hoping to be able to perform adequately.
I would say what we really need is a scout and a healer? We know characters can be versatile, and Akkramar may actually turn out to be a good scout also, but I would say those are the 'roles' we miss the most, though another tankish character is always good.

Sarasanna |

Sarasanna is basically a very tough scout, and will be able to function as a front-liner if needed.
A rogue would definitely be helpful, and a tough healer- a combat worthy cleric, or a paladin, would also be good.
Five players total felt like a good number, especially considering all the bonus powers we get, and the active NPCs that are supporting us.

Iacobus |

Speak of the Android, and you initiate the little-known 'Summon PC' GM-Only Cantrip!
Did you want me to go ahead & post to gameplay now, or did you want to insert me, Lord Manticore?
edit: Lord Manticore, I was a bit uncertain. On those levels when we would ordinarily gain an ability boost (4th, 8th, 12th, 16th, 20th), you state that we gain an additional Evolution point. Is that instead of an ability boost, or in addition to? Given the wording, I was uncertain.

Iacobus |

Thank you! Also, because I didn't see it in the Gameplay thread, are you an Android that was 'decanted' to appear like a Halfling or Gnome, or one of the variant ones that were originally intended to function as 'children', and which therefore look like Human children, at least as much as Androids look like Humans?
Yes, I have the Iron Gods AP issue which has more information regarding Androids.
edit: After making the Ability adjustments from the point-buy changes Dakkar pointed out in the Recruitment thread, Iacobus is now eligible for the Empathy Feat. I took Endurance mostly for thematic reasons, Iacobus is an athlete after all, but it doesn't do much for an Android; although I think I might have been intending to pick up Diehard later...
That said, Empathy also makes sense for him. What do the rest of you guys think? Lord Manticore, would you be willing to allow me to switch the two out?