
AinvarG |

I'm going to be unavailable to post until Saturday or Sunday.
Megan, if you or someone else in the group would like to play Calinder for me until then, or just leave me out of the action, that would be fine.
I'll post again when I can.
Thanks.
I hope it's for an enjoyable reason - don't worry, Rhasa will keep Calinder safe while you are gone or die trying.

Gorguk |

Have fun Cal. I as well will be gone for the weekend. I should find time to post early friday and late monday so I will only miss 2 days. If you need to DMPC my character go right ahead.
"Think it will work."
"It'll take a miracle."

Rhasadilara Goldenbough |

We can pause until Monday if people would prefer...
I will tell you that you have just about completed this section, and if you want to start considering your next level it would not be entirely premature to do so :)
Pausing is fine, I'm on a short trip, but I should still be able to get a connection. Obviously.
As for next level, that's great! At this time, I think Rhasa will stay the course she is on, probably taking weapon finesse to augment her melee abilities.

Rhasadilara Goldenbough |

I've added the coins found in the war room to the company funds, unless you want to divide it up differently. We also need to decide if we want to keep the spears or not.
Company funds sounds good. Keep the spears. We can discard them or sell them as curiosities later -- or gift them to the kobolds -- but don't leave them here for the mites. My 2 cp.

Gorguk |

Wow 3rd level already nice. You can already count on the fact that I am taking mounted combat at 3rd. Power attack smite with lance on a charge :)
Is this the type of campaign that we should invest in craft/prof/perform skills? I usually don't put ranks into these skill since it takes forever to actually craft something decent (1 year for paltemail).
I am probably going to put the 2 skill ranks into ride and 1 into diplomacy.

Gorguk |

Hmm... Deadly Aim...
I had totally settled on Weapon Finesse to boost my attacks with the ECB, but with Gorguk and Lothar around, I probably can safely concentrate on bringing the pain from afar...
Sorry I wasn't trying to tell you what to do. Weapon finesse is still a great option for when you do get in melee. It will be interesting what Lothar takes for a feat. Have fun deciding.

Calinder Surital |

Took Weapon Focus, Light Crossbow for my feat, and now have access to second level spells. Some pretty useful one's, I will have Align Weapon, Barkskin, and Spiritual Weapon prepared next time Calinder has a chance to rest and meditate. Delay Poison would have helped Lothar when he got poisoned.
The trick as always is having the right spell ready at the time you need it.

Rhasadilara Goldenbough |

I did some geeky analysis and determined that Deadly Aim will provide a greater bang for the buck, so Weapon Finesse has been pushed off for now. Great suggestion, Gorguk!
Time to pick a favored terrain - I think she's going to pick whatever we've been traveling through. Would it be considered Plains?
Hit points 1d8 ⇒ 2 Bugger!
Used favored bonus to help that pitiful hit point roll. Even more reason for her to stand back and strike from a distance. I believe she's up to date with her new stats - review and suggestions welcome. Of course, if plains is incorrect for her favored terrain, I'll switch that out, but the rest should be done, I think.

Gorguk |

Gorguk is leveled up but won't use the new level upgrades until we have some downtime in game for proper training. Once we have said downtime, assuming after the mites, then I will post the training montage if that is ok with you Megan.
If we don't need downtime, then I will use the level up and post a montage after the fact reflecting on the training I did.
Glitterdust... nasty spell. My sorceress in another Pathfinder game loves that spell.

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Consider the map, Rhasa' - either plains or forest would make a good favoured terrain.
Gorguk: As Mikmek has agreed to stay for dinner (and the night) you can flex a bit after you've eaten. You won't be going on to the Sootscales until morning (and I love reading your montages, anyway!).

Rhasadilara Goldenbough |

Consider the map, Rhasa' - either plains or forest would make a good favoured terrain.
Gorguk: As Mikmek has agreed to stay for dinner (and the night) you can flex a bit after you've eaten. You won't be going on to the Sootscales until morning (and I love reading your montages, anyway!).
The woodcraft alternative racial ability gives our girl some benefits in forested areas and she gets more favored terrain later, so I will stay with plains for now. Thanks for confirming.
I'll wait to see Gorguk's montage, but I have an idea for Rhasa's training regimen for her new feat. "Hey, I need someone to stand over there and tell me how much this hurts on a scale of 1 to 10. A 4? Good. Now, how about this one?" ;-)

Barnabus |

Barnabus
Our good DM
I of course leveling Barnabus have elected the extra hex feat (yet again!).
I wanted to make certain you were good with the selected hexes at this time and that you would accept alternatives from UM.
Feral Speech (Su): This hex grants the witch the ability to speak with and understand the response of any animal as if using speak with animals, though each time she uses the hex, she must decide to communicate with either amphibians, birds, fish, mammals, or reptiles, and can only speak to and understand animals of that type. The witch can make herself understood as far as her voice carries. This hex does not predispose any animal so addressed toward the witch in any way. At 12th level, the witch can use this hex to communicate with vermin. Source: Ultimate Magic

Gorguk |

Megan Robertson wrote:Consider the map, Rhasa' - either plains or forest would make a good favoured terrain.
Gorguk: As Mikmek has agreed to stay for dinner (and the night) you can flex a bit after you've eaten. You won't be going on to the Sootscales until morning (and I love reading your montages, anyway!).
The woodcraft alternative racial ability gives our girl some benefits in forested areas and she gets more favored terrain later, so I will stay with plains for now. Thanks for confirming.
I'll wait to see Gorguk's montage, but I have an idea for Rhasa's training regimen for her new feat. "Hey, I need someone to stand over there and tell me how much this hurts on a scale of 1 to 10. A 4? Good. Now, how about this one?" ;-)
Lets wait till after I have my lay on hands back before we start this 'training' session shall we.

Rhasadilara Goldenbough |

Rhasadilara Goldenbough wrote:Lets wait till after I have my lay on hands back before we start this 'training' session shall we.Megan Robertson wrote:Consider the map, Rhasa' - either plains or forest would make a good favoured terrain.
Gorguk: As Mikmek has agreed to stay for dinner (and the night) you can flex a bit after you've eaten. You won't be going on to the Sootscales until morning (and I love reading your montages, anyway!).
The woodcraft alternative racial ability gives our girl some benefits in forested areas and she gets more favored terrain later, so I will stay with plains for now. Thanks for confirming.
I'll wait to see Gorguk's montage, but I have an idea for Rhasa's training regimen for her new feat. "Hey, I need someone to stand over there and tell me how much this hurts on a scale of 1 to 10. A 4? Good. Now, how about this one?" ;-)
:D
By then, the damage I do with the feat will double - great idea!

Rhasadilara Goldenbough |

I did some geeky analysis and determined that Deadly Aim will provide a greater bang for the buck, so Weapon Finesse has been pushed off for now. Great suggestion, Gorguk!
Time to pick a favored terrain - I think she's going to pick whatever we've been traveling through. Would it be considered Plains?
Hit points 1d8 Bugger!
Used favored bonus to help that pitiful hit point roll. Even more reason for her to stand back and strike from a distance. I believe she's up to date with her new stats - review and suggestions welcome. Of course, if plains is incorrect for her favored terrain, I'll switch that out, but the rest should be done, I think.
D'oh! I just realized that I rolled the wrong die -- Rhasa uses a d10 in Pathfinder! Can I roll again with the right die or am I stuck with it? (I figure I can't do much worse, but I understand since it was entirely my fault.)

Lothar Narda |

My internet problems have been slain and I'm back to being a regular poster again!!! Yay for me!!!!!!
Been catching up on things and when I saw that Rhasa had posted here, I came to check things out. I'm in the process of leveling up Lothar... I'll be taking that level of ninja, which, in the process, will be adding the skills Climb, Diplomacy, and Disable Device (why being a ninja suddenly makes me a better negotiator is something I'd rather not speculate on). Acrobatics and Perception both received a boost as well. Sneak attack and Poison use are also added as well. Certain exotic weapons have been added to his repertoire...which brings me back to a weapon discussion had by the DM and I... the surujin.
Ultimate Combat lists both the kusarigama (sickle and chain) and kyoketsu shoge.
Kusarigama (sickle and chain): cost 12 gp; Dmg (S) 1d2/1d4; Dmg (M) 1d3/1d6; Crit x2; Wt. 3 lbs.; Type S or P; Special double, monk, reach (10 ft.), trip, grapple
Kyoketsu shoge: cost 6 gp; Dmg (S) 1d3; Dmg (M) 1d4; Crit x2; Range 20 ft.; Wt. 1 lb.; Type S or P; Special disarm, grapple, monk, reach
As you can see, the kusarigama lines up more with what I described in Lothar's training session than the shoge does (the double weapon aspect at least, though I did say that it was capable of being used as a disarming weapon in the initial post and the kusarigama is not a disarm weapon). If you do allow this then know that the kusarigama is a specific known weapon listed for the ninja...which would free up my feat for this level to be put toward something else other than Exotic Weapon... like this little gem (with your approval, of course) from Ultimate Combat. Of course, there's always Arcane Strike, but this provides just as much flavor to Lothar close combat prowess (he wouldn't be able to make his strikes the equivalent of magic weapons, but given his style of combat he might be able to hold off on that ability for a couple of levels).
Knockout Artist
You can throw devastating knockout punches.
Prerequisites: Sneak attack class feature, Improved Unarmed Strike.
Benefit: When you use your unarmed strike to deal nonlethal damage and sneak attack damage to an opponent denied his Dexterity bonus to AC, you gain a +1 bonus on the the damage roll per each sneak attack damage die you roll.
I'm still willing to pay what we discussed as far as price for the weapon (25 gp). Or more if you prefer. I just wanted to know a) what you thought of this and b) whether or not you wanted to settle for something more official from Paizo than what we discussed.
I await your decision on this.

Gorguk |

Gorguk wrote:Rhasadilara Goldenbough wrote:Lets wait till after I have my lay on hands back before we start this 'training' session shall we.Megan Robertson wrote:Consider the map, Rhasa' - either plains or forest would make a good favoured terrain.
Gorguk: As Mikmek has agreed to stay for dinner (and the night) you can flex a bit after you've eaten. You won't be going on to the Sootscales until morning (and I love reading your montages, anyway!).
The woodcraft alternative racial ability gives our girl some benefits in forested areas and she gets more favored terrain later, so I will stay with plains for now. Thanks for confirming.
I'll wait to see Gorguk's montage, but I have an idea for Rhasa's training regimen for her new feat. "Hey, I need someone to stand over there and tell me how much this hurts on a scale of 1 to 10. A 4? Good. Now, how about this one?" ;-)
:D
By then, the damage I do with the feat will double - great idea!
I won't have to wait a whole level just till the next day. Besides I don't want you to get a lucky shot and crit myself or Durok without a chance at me healing a little bit of it. Also, when you double your damage next level I get to double my healing with LOH :P
I am still used to rangers being D8 that I never even noticed your HD roll.

Rhasadilara Goldenbough |

Rhasadilara Goldenbough wrote:By then, the damage I do with the feat will double - great idea!I won't have to wait a whole level just till the next day. Besides I don't want you to get a lucky shot and crit myself or Durok without a chance at me healing a little bit of it. Also, when you double your damage next level I get to double my healing with LOH :P
I am still used to rangers being D8 that I never even noticed your HD roll.
I was only teasing. She had no intention of using one of you as a practice target. I don't know why I thought you didn't have LOH yet -- I was well aware you've been healing yourself...

Gorguk |

Gorguk wrote:I was only teasing. She had no intention of using one of you as a practice target. I don't know why I thought you didn't have LOH yet -- I was well aware you've been healing yourself...Rhasadilara Goldenbough wrote:By then, the damage I do with the feat will double - great idea!I won't have to wait a whole level just till the next day. Besides I don't want you to get a lucky shot and crit myself or Durok without a chance at me healing a little bit of it. Also, when you double your damage next level I get to double my healing with LOH :P
I am still used to rangers being D8 that I never even noticed your HD roll.
That is just it, I do plan on using myself as a target dummy for you. I am just going to break the tips of your arrows so they only do subdual damage. :) Nothing like real combat to hone our skills. I need you to shoot at Durok so I can train for Mounted combat anyways. Not yet though, that training montage will be after the kobolds. I want to keep my LOH if I need them tomorrow.

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Barnabus - I really must get around to reading Ultimate Magic, but yes, you may take a hex out of it.
Rhasa' - you may reroll HP on a D10. But you're going to have to live with the result whatever you get.
Lothar - good that you are back online. Assuming you can find someone who knows how to make one, you may have a kusarigama at list price, if that's what you want. The knockout artist feat sounds like it fits your concept well, and as you say, if you take a level of ninja and buy a kusarigama then you have a feat slot spare to take it.
Owt else?

Calinder Surital |

... why being a ninja suddenly makes me a better negotiator is something I'd rather not speculate on ...
I think that if someone suddenly appeared out nowhere, dress in clothing that covered everything but his eyes, and slid a ninjato from a sheath on his back, I feel pretty diplomatic towards just about any wish he may have.

Lothar Narda |

Lothar - good that you are back online. Assuming you can find someone who knows how to make one, you may have a kusarigama at list price, if that's what you want. The knockout artist feat sounds like it fits your concept well, and as you say, if you take a level of ninja and buy a kusarigama then you have a feat slot spare to take it.
Thank you. It's good to be back. And I appreciate the allowances that you're making on my behalf (as well as my character's). Again, thank you.

Lothar Narda |

Finished leveling up Lothar. The feat Knockout Artist has been officially added. Made some changes to his skills set in regard to building upon what he has and adding in new ones.
Decided to forgo adding Diplomacy to his skill set...for now. Lothar's strengths don't really lie with peaceful negotiation, which entail a lot in the way of compromise. Right now, he's just too straight forward for that. He won't always be this way... after all, the Master Spy prestige class have the skills Bluff, Disguise, and Sense Motive listed as part of the prerequisites, so he'll eventually become more cunning and somewhat adept at reading the intentions of those around him. I also decided to not add Climb as well... he'll develop that skill further along in his career. Just not right now. Right now, he's going to shore up what he's got currently, but there still are some additions skillwise. Knowledge - nobility in particular will be of use to us. Since we will be dealing with them throughout all of this, knowing how they think and what they're about will be crucial to our success as Wardens. And that to me is more important.

Lothar Narda |

Hey Lothar how did you get a wand of cure light wounds at caster level 5? Don't most wands come at the lowest caster level? Not that I am complaining, I would love for you to add +5 instead of +1, just was wondering.
I realized I never addressed this issue, but its really simple. To craft any type of wand, the lowest caster level you can do that is 5th. That's according to the guidelines set up with the Craft Wands feat.

Rhasadilara Goldenbough |

Gorguk wrote:Hey Lothar how did you get a wand of cure light wounds at caster level 5? Don't most wands come at the lowest caster level? Not that I am complaining, I would love for you to add +5 instead of +1, just was wondering.I realized I never addressed this issue, but its really simple. To craft any type of wand, the lowest caster level you can do that is 5th. That's according to the guidelines set up with the Craft Wands feat.
If that were true, the minimum cost of a CLW wand would be 3750 gp because the cost is (level of spell) x (caster level) x 750 gp.
Note that the caster may have to be 5th level to gain the Craft Wand feat, but they are not required to craft the spell at their current caster level. From Page 549 of the Core Rulebook, "A creator can create an item at a lower caster level than her own, but never lower than the minimum level needed to cast the needed spell."
Ergo, they can cast a first-level wand of Cure Light Wounds at caster level 1 for a selling price of 750 gp.

Lothar Narda |

I'm aware of that, but we were given the choice of a magic item or a masterwork weapon and I chose what I chose. I used it as a caster level 5 wand for him and there were no problems. If the DM has a problem with it then I'm more than willing to accommodate her so as not to cause a problem in the future.

Rhasadilara Goldenbough |

I'm aware of that, but we were given the choice of a magic item or a masterwork weapon and I chose what I chose. I used it as a caster level 5 wand for him and there were no problems. If the DM has a problem with it then I'm more than willing to accommodate her so as not to cause a problem in the future.
I'm not arguing with whether you have a wand at caster level five or not, just correcting what appeared to be an error in interpreting the rules for creating a wand. Honestly, I prefer you have the CL 5 wand - at our current level, it's likely to heal us from the bonus alone regardless of the roll.

Gorguk |

Congrats and good luck on the job.
On a side note, I have access to the Book of the River Kingdoms. Is this off limit since it deals with the campaign or is it ok to read it? My friend purchased it and is thinking about running Kingmaker as a home campaign. I don't have time to join his campaign since I am running a Rise of the Runelords campaign so that won't be an issue. Just was wondering about the book being off limits. Thanks Megan

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Gorguk, you are welcome to read the Guide to the River Kingdoms - we shall just take it that you have studied the region intensively. The Stolen Lands, in which we are adventuring, is mentioned on pp.50-53, and even that may be read - it is a) the sort of knowledge that someone researching the area could unearth and b) is written from a standpoint prior to you lot being sent there... It does not contain the sort of extensive detail that I have in the AP, so no worries.
Consider it an extra level or two in Knowledge: Local Area... :)
Chrissi, my daughter, looked beautiful in her baptismal gown. Her baptism was the first exercise of his priesthood by a young man whose own baptism was some 3 weeks earlier - he had to wait until he turned 18 due to family opposition to his faith. Her confirmation was administered by another young man who, with his parents, had encouraged and supported her throught her investigation of the Church. I have never been prouder of my little girl!
Back to the game, once again I am impressed by my wonderful bunch of players. Your debate on the ethics of your choices is outstanding. Thank you yet again for playing with me.

Calinder Surital |

Megan, without a good GM, we can't be good players. My thanks to you for taking up the task of running this game for us. It has truly been one of the best experiences I've had in playing RPG's.
And thanks also to my fellow players, as I've certainly learned a lot from their example of how to be a good RPG player.

Rhasadilara Goldenbough |

I have to echo Calinder's sentiments, both regarding our fair DM and our fellow players. You lot make me want to try harder, that's for sure.
I'm in a number of games, but there's a few that I look forward to the most when I check for updates. This is certainly one of them. As the latecomer, I have to say thanks for letting me join in.

Gorguk |

Thanks Megan for the reading of the river kingdom's book. There is a lot of interesting information in here. So far it has been nice to see exactly how each position is defined. It definitley makes me want to get to the kingdom building aspect of Kingmaker more now than ever.
I was planning on taking 3 ranks of craft armor next level so I could craft myself from full plate but if you want me to I will take instead skills in profession city planner to represent the book's info. I will just have to craft my full plate later.
Speaking of crafting, what would be the cost per week to hire a journeyman smith to help me craft my armor? I would like to have him assist me for 2 months at least to finish the MW portion or the armor. Also what is your ruling on crafting items in kingmaker using the craft skill or magic item feats? Some campaigns expect crafting and others seem to break the system too much and I don't want to infringe on your plans.
To everyone else, I will take armor orders once I have my tools and traveling anvil. It will just take me a while to complete something. I think it will take me over a year to finish my full plate if it is MW.