Megan's Kingmaker PbP

Game Master Megan Robertson

A game of Paizo's Kingmaker AP, with some of the best players it has been my pleasure to DM!
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Male Vudran bard (magician) 2/ninja 3; hp 38; AC 13, T 12, FF 11; Init +4; F +2, R +8, W +3 (+2 vs. sleep, paralysis, and stun); Perc +7
Gorguk wrote:


Lothar, that is why I had fun debating with you. You always tried to have an out for everything. As a paladin I didn't want an out, I wanted something more concrete. Too many outs leave too much room for interpretation and gray areas. The more gray areas, the easier it is to stray off my path.

Exactly my point! Though I think you misunderstand somewhat, you get it enough to understand that those very gray areas are what will eventually cause him to change his alignment. Lothar walks a path like many that worship Irori that he thinks will eventually lead him to perfection. His idea of perfection, however, means that intellectually he has to be able to think his way out of any given situation because 'the key to strategy... is not to choose a path to victory, but to choose so that all paths lead to a victory.'

Lothar understood that your character, though a warrior, possessed a spiritual presence that went beyond any physical strength. Lothar admired that. Though Lothar sees himself as a Knight Templar (to borrow a trope) he is in fact a Well Intentioned Extremist (borrowing yet another trope). That extremism will be tempered eventually (he doesn't want to lose your character's respect and friendship) so he will do what he believes is right.


male Half-orc Paladin 3 HP: 23/25 AC: 22/10/19 saves: F7+, R4, W5

I created a thread looking for a DM just now at link . Please add to it for anything that I missed.


Hi guys, I know you lost your ranger. I would like to resubmit Malnivar as a fill in. I initialy applyed during the recruitment and have lurked in your game.
I would be interested in playing if you would have me.


Male Half-elf Cleric 5

Well we'll have to see if we can find a new DM first. Baring that, I'm okay with ya joining the party.


male Half-orc Paladin 3 HP: 23/25 AC: 22/10/19 saves: F7+, R4, W5

It seems optimistic that we will have a DM at some point. There are already a couple people interested in DMing for us.


I'm rooting for y'all. I was lurking and would love to see this continue, but I have not the skill nor the time to do it justice for players such as yourselves. If a playing slot opened up, I'd love to step in, but there were others ahead of me, not to mention a candidate standing there, weapons in hand, already at the gate.


male Half-orc Paladin 3 HP: 23/25 AC: 22/10/19 saves: F7+, R4, W5

Torolf said that he would be willing to take us on once he has bought the AP. He won't be ready right away but should be shortly. Any thoughts on this please respond and let everyone know your opinion. He also indicated that he would want another player so we would still need our 5th person as well.


Sorry guys but i will have to bow out. Thanks for considering me, good luck.


Well, if you (and the new DM, of course) are willing, I just rolled up a ranger (archery combat style, guide archetype) that did not get invited to a different game. I would be happy to bring her over here...


male Half-orc Paladin 3 HP: 23/25 AC: 22/10/19 saves: F7+, R4, W5

We have a new DM lined up and ready to take our group on!!! She said she should be ready to go by Wednesday the 10th. Please respond so that we all know everyone got this message and is ready to start up again.

Also, if our new DM approves, I am fine with Ainvarg to join us as we could use a ranger/skill character.


Elf Ranger (Guide, Skirmisher)

I will work on finishing up the build, then. I'm fine with retconning that she's been with the group all along (in Kylia's place) or maybe she's been scouting out the bandit camp trying to decide how best to interfere with their activities.

EDIT: Here's the avatar, but I haven't put anything under it yet. A thought for why she's here (should leave the DM with a lot of hooks if she wishes to use them as a bonus):

Spoiler:
'Rhasa' was guiding a party of scholars unaware of the bandits in the area. The scholar party was ambushed and managed to escape, but they lost a significant amount of gear. They have returned to their home base in the north to re-provision and get additional manpower from those paying for the work to be done, but 'Rhasa' has remained, intent on recovering what was lost and making the bandits see the error of their ways. She's been following and watching for the better part of a week, always being extremely careful, and she's concluded that they do not know she's about and that she can afford to approach and get the lay of the land. As she's observing, she sees the party that left (passing her) approaching, but they seem different somehow... She suspects that something's about to happen and works to position herself to take advantage of a distraction if those approaching are hostile to the bandits. (It's rough, but it's a starting idea.)


Male Human Witch 5

Noted.......game on starting wednesday!

Liberty's Edge

Female Depemds on the game system (human in the real world)

DM here. Yes, I'm happy about a new addition to the party, and the idea for writing Rhasa in seems like a good beginning if you want to go for that.


Male Vudran bard (magician) 2/ninja 3; hp 38; AC 13, T 12, FF 11; Init +4; F +2, R +8, W +3 (+2 vs. sleep, paralysis, and stun); Perc +7

Excellent!

Lothar here and ready to go.


Male Half-elf Cleric 5

Calinder here and ready to start again, will be looking forward to the restart on Wednesday.

And welcome to our new DM Megan, and welcome to our new ranger Rhasa as well.


Elf Ranger (Guide, Skirmisher)

Checking in -- this afternoon allowed some time to try and hammer out the details for Rhasa. However, I have been unable to determine how to determine how much gear she should have -- I thought I would take the Pioneer trait like Kylia did, so Rhasa will have a horse, but does that include bridle and tack?

I believe everything is ready in the avatar other than what is directly affected by the gear she selects, so anyone with a discerning eye is welcome to proofread my math. I copied the format from another character (a sorcerer), but I think I excised all of the strange skill totals and abilities.

Using Woodcraft alternate racial ability since that's a better fit for a ranger and using the guide archetype, so no favored enemy for her. There are feats I want to take from the APG, but they will have to come at a later time.

And once again, thanks for letting me join the game, all!


Male Human Witch 5

Character creation guidelines are gone from the original thread!

I do not remember the amount of gold.

I do remember you can have a free masterwork weapon
I did buy saddlebags for my mount......


Elf Ranger (Guide, Skirmisher)

Well, then, I will go will rolling for it and adjust later if our DM wishes otherwise.

5d6 ⇒ (4, 4, 6, 1, 5) = 20 x 10 gp

EDIT: Well, that could certainly be worse.

EDIT: So do I need to purchase the weapon and get the masterwork for free, or what?


male Half-orc Paladin 3 HP: 23/25 AC: 22/10/19 saves: F7+, R4, W5

Actually, it was full starting gold and either a MW weapon or a wand of a first level spell with 20 charges for free. The weapon and the MW component were free. However I asked before and no special materials and no other bonuses were allowed: such as having a mighty composite longbow with a strength modifier of +4. I believe that bit bridle and saddle were purchased seperately from the Pioneer trait.

Its nice to have a character with a good perception and survival in the group. Of course anything is pretty much better than my -1 . :P


Elf Ranger (Guide, Skirmisher)
Gorguk wrote:

Actually, it was full starting gold and either a MW weapon or a wand of a first level spell with 20 charges for free. The weapon and the MW component were free. However I asked before and no special materials and no other bonuses were allowed: such as having a mighty composite longbow with a strength modifier of +4. I believe that bit bridle and saddle were purchased seperately from the Pioneer trait.

Its nice to have a character with a good perception and survival in the group. Of course anything is pretty much better than my -1 . :P

lol - if she makes it to 4th level and we are in her favored terrain, she'll even grant you a bonus to that Perception. How do you like that?

Good DM: Her gear is purchased in my off-line generator, I just need to transfer it into her avatar. I'm tempted by the Elven Curved Blade for her - is that an option?

Liberty's Edge

Female Depemds on the game system (human in the real world)

-- sudden vision of Rhasa with nose pressed against the weaponshop window drooling over an elven curved blade --

(Kid at sweetshop style, that is!)

Oh, go on then if you want it :)

The Cuddly DM


Elf Ranger (Guide, Skirmisher)
Megan Robertson wrote:

-- sudden vision of Rhasa with nose pressed against the weaponshop window drooling over an elven curved blade --

(Kid at sweetshop style, that is!)

Oh, go on then if you want it :)

The Cuddly DM

Thanks, I couldn't resist -- the idea of a finesseable two-handed blade is just too good to pass up, especially for someone that will only use it when she has to.

Should have her gear up tonight. Has anyone seen anything that needs fixing otherwise in her character sheet?


Elf Ranger (Guide, Skirmisher)

OK, she's done enough for the battle. She has more gear than what I listed, but it's with her horse, Sunset, hidden in the trees.

DM Megan:

Spoiler:
Since she was part of an expedition, I outfitted her like they didn't know what they would need - lots of tools, etc., including a cart to pull behind Sunset. She's left the immediately unnecessary items behind to stay light. I didn't have time to list out all of the other gear yet, but I promise it's all from the standard list and within the original DM's budget. I'll get it up there as soon as time allows.

Liberty's Edge

Female Depemds on the game system (human in the real world)

I am not one of these super-accountant-type DMs. Provided it makes reasonable sense, contributes to the story or gives me a laugh, it can happen in my game!!!!

One job application to write, then the next item on the 'to do' list is reactivating your game :)

And I've had a conversation with the DM of the Kingmaker AP I was playing in, and he's invited me to stay!


male Half-orc Paladin 3 HP: 23/25 AC: 22/10/19 saves: F7+, R4, W5

I am glad to hear that you are able to continue in your game as a player.


Elf Ranger (Guide, Skirmisher)
Gorguk wrote:
I am glad to hear that you are able to continue in your game as a player.

Same here. Hate for you to do the nice thing here and pay for it there. Best of both worlds!!

I'm tracking my gear and such in PCGen. It does a pretty good job of keeping me honest. I've been unable to keep up with the conversations in that community, but I believe they nearly have the APG done over there. I will have to convert Rhasa to the new rules later. Right now, I'm doing a hybrid of old rules with manual mods for the new rules because I haven't had time to do much more than just use what I'm already familiar with.

Liberty's Edge

Female Depemds on the game system (human in the real world)

And we are off!

As I've said in the game thread, I think I need a run-down of what you are intending to do.

Rhasa: at the moment you are riding through the woods thinking that it's getting dark and about time to think about camping for the night. I have this funny feeling that you'll be disturbed before you get settled down... noisy neighbours and all that, you may wish to trundle over and ask them to quieten down a bit... :)

My rules are simple.


  • We are here to have FUN!
  • I expect a daily check-in Monday-Friday - naturally you don't need to post if there isn't anything you want to say. Weekends I realise can be tricky as those of you with more of a life than I have may actually be doing stuff away from the computer. Let me know here if you know you are going to be busy for a few days... and I understand that life does get in the way sometimes! Helps if I know, then I'll keep your character (mostly) safe for you.
  • Use the board die roller. So shall I unless there's a good reason for a hidden roll.
  • Minor asides are fine in the game thread with an OOC tag set, but if you want to debate something at length OOC come over here and chatter away.
  • I run combat thus: I call for initiative, and ask for everyone to state what they want to do & make any appropriate die rolls. Then I resolve the first round in narrative and will ask for any saves, etc., needed. This means that you don't have to wait until your turn in the initiative order to post, 'cos I'll sort that out. Once everyone has posted or it's my next morning (roughly 24 hours passed), I will roll for anyone who has not checked in and make a best-guess at what they might do. (If a weekend intervenes in a brawl, I'll wait until Monday before moving on.) This cycle repeats until the fight is over.
  • Have fun...


male Half-orc Paladin 3 HP: 23/25 AC: 22/10/19 saves: F7+, R4, W5

Quick question for you Megan, is it too late to declare that Gorguk will be following the Shining Knight variant in the APG. I was planning on going mounted combat anyways and this seemed like the perfect solution.

Liberty's Edge

Female Depemds on the game system (human in the real world)

Go on then.... :)


male Half-orc Paladin 3 HP: 23/25 AC: 22/10/19 saves: F7+, R4, W5

Thanks Megan.


Elf Ranger (Guide, Skirmisher)

Oh, oh, oh! I just realized that a character can have multiple archetypes as long as they qualify for each of them -- it won't matter until/if Rhasa reaches fifth level, but I would like take the Skirmisher archetype in addition to the Guide archetype.

(Yes, I'm wanting to try out new rules, but I also never ever seem to case spells as a ranger and the skirmisher gives me an alternative option...)

Can I? Please? Pleasepleasepleaseplease?

Sorry, got a bit excited. Did it show?

Liberty's Edge

Female Depemds on the game system (human in the real world)

You guys are making me feel old... but then I can still get excited and jump up & down too, so perhaps the long grey hair doesn't signify.

Rhasa, the answer is yes, if you meet the requirements you are welcome to experiment with Skirmisher in due course.

By the way, anyone wondering about the young bandit's "breeches points" - it's how a set of mediaeval breeches fastened, with cords laced through holes and the ends metal-tipped to guard against wear. As for WHY he's fastening his breeches, well, woodland camps are a bit short on rest facilities...


male Half-orc Paladin 3 HP: 23/25 AC: 22/10/19 saves: F7+, R4, W5

Providing that we all survive the assalt on the bandit camp, is there anyone who would like to be the one to decide where we go next or try and decide committee style. The only reason I ask, is that if we wait for a decision from all of us it could take a couple of days. This way, if we nominate 1 person to guide us throught the Greenlands and make that character choose our path it is quicker. By all means though I feel that we should still chime in if we feel strongly about which direction our characters wish to go. As for myself, I am fine with someone else deciding for me at this point.


Elf Ranger (Guide, Skirmisher)

It would be appropriate for Rhasa's character (assuming she survives the encounter and the following introductions...) to follow someone else's lead, so I'm good with someone else calling the shots. Obviously, if she feels strongly about something, she will speak up.

Liberty's Edge

Female Depemds on the game system (human in the real world)

I'm happy however the group decides to, er, decide :)

Just tell me where you want to go...


Male Human Witch 5

I have been using "majority rule" in PBP games, ie if 3 PC's say South then the party is assumed to go that direction and the others are assumed to be in agreement as well.....

and someone tell me if I go over the top on my posts!

Liberty's Edge

Female Depemds on the game system (human in the real world)

Go read your charter!

At least one facet of the AP is that YOU are supposed to not only map the area and deal with nusiances such as bandits, you are going to establish a government. So you do need to think about, and discuss - preferably IC - how you want to run things.


male Half-orc Paladin 3 HP: 23/25 AC: 22/10/19 saves: F7+, R4, W5
Megan Robertson wrote:

Go read your charter!

At least one facet of the AP is that YOU are supposed to not only map the area and deal with nusiances such as bandits, you are going to establish a government. So you do need to think about, and discuss - preferably IC - how you want to run things.

I figure we would tackle that once we got the current bandit situation handled. No sense in planning a government if you can't clear out the riff-raff first.


Male Human Witch 5

I was talking about when we are in a hex and have to choose a new hex to enter.....


Elf Ranger (Guide, Skirmisher)

Rhasa has signed no charter unless you want her backstory to be that she was with a different group that failed in their mission. I was picturing her as one of those NPC's that lives in the Greenbelt and becomes a resource for the kingdom-makers.

But I'm open to whatever suits the DM.

On another topic, a question for the good DM. Would it be possible to get coordinates assigned to the maps so we can describe our locations more easily? I presume you have the means, but if you do not, let me know and I will do so. Then the question becomes how to get the touched maps to you...


Male Half-elf Cleric 5
Rhasadilara Goldenbough wrote:

Rhasa has signed no charter unless you want her backstory to be that she was with a different group that failed in their mission. I was picturing her as one of those NPC's that lives in the Greenbelt and becomes a resource for the kingdom-makers.

But I'm open to whatever suits the DM.

On another topic, a question for the good DM. Would it be possible to get coordinates assigned to the maps so we can describe our locations more easily? I presume you have the means, but if you do not, let me know and I will do so. Then the question becomes how to get the touched maps to you...

Our DM could also arrange for you to end up with Kylia's charter one way or another depending on what happens to Kylia.

Liberty's Edge

Female Depemds on the game system (human in the real world)

Rhasadilara - you have no charter, you were roaming the Greenbelt about your own business. You will have to come to some kind of agreement with the others once you meet them...

... which will be quite soon, as your attention has been caught by the sound of a watchtower catching fire rather spectacularly (see the game thread). You may start posting once you decide to join in the action.

As for putting coordinates on maps, do you mean the big Greenbelt one? Can do if you want. (For those interested, I'm extracting maps from the PDF and hosting them in a hidden folder on one of my websites.)


Megan Robertson wrote:
Rhasadilara - you have no charter, you were roaming the Greenbelt about your own business. You will have to come to some kind of agreement with the others once you meet them...

That's what I was thinking...

Megan Robertson wrote:
As for putting coordinates on maps, do you mean the big Greenbelt one? Can do if you want. (For those interested, I'm extracting maps from the PDF and hosting them in a hidden folder on one of my websites.)

Actually, I was referring to the tactical map mostly, but it will be much easier if we can identify the hexes we plan to explore clearly. For the hexes, I think a simple numbering will have to suffice -- I'm not familiar enough with hex maps to know how to lay it out in x,y coordinates... I'll see what I can come up with.

And I will work up a tactical map, but I prefer that you continue to host it -- I have a yahoo account under ainvarg if you want to drop me a line and let me know what address to send my feeble efforts to. That is, if you don't want to post an email address here, of course.


Male Human Witch 5

Directional map

I am seeing this being used in reference to hexes and exploration, by numbering the hex sides it is easier to say where the party is going.

Just a Suggestion... ;)

It lets us move from one hex to another without too much confusion....


Elf Ranger (Guide, Skirmisher)
Barnabus wrote:

Directional map

I am seeing this being used in reference to hexes and exploration, by numbering the hex sides it is easier to say where the party is going.

Just a Suggestion... ;)

It lets us move from one hex to another without too much confusion....

Good thought. It will still be helpful to have some means of labeling them so we can refer to them when we aren't actually in one trying to determine which way to exit. I'm leaning toward calling a row by a letter and let the column 'zigzag' down the map and using a number, similar to a spreadsheet.


Elf Ranger (Guide, Skirmisher)

I have a tactical map ready for review and an overland map that shows my concept (didn't label every hex, but you can see what I'm proposing).

Just need to know where to put it.

Liberty's Edge

Female Depemds on the game system (human in the real world)

Thanks to Rhasa's skills, we now have a tactical map for the current combat, as well as an annotated map of the Greenbelt to plot further exploits upon. Nice work, it's appreciated!

And I've used the tactical map in the latest round of our brawl... :)

Liberty's Edge

Female Depemds on the game system (human in the real world)

And now Rhasa's updated the map to show everyone's current position!

Thank you :)

I like players like this, who make my life easy...

Love'n'hugs from the Cuddly DM.


Male Half-elf Cleric 5

I may not be able to post too often through the holiday this weekend, but I hope to at least be able to check in once a day. If needed, either skip me, or someone can post for me.

Rhasa, sorry if my call out for surrender messed with your plans. As a LN character following a LG deity, I felt that I had to give them a chance, even if it is a slim chance. I think with a little more experience, Calinder will be able to distinguish better who is apt to surrender, and who is not. Until then, it may be hit and miss.


Elf Ranger (Guide, Skirmisher)
Calinder Surital wrote:
Rhasa, sorry if my call out for surrender messed with your plans. As a LN character following a LG deity, I felt that I had to give them a chance, even if it is a slim chance. I think with a little more experience, Calinder will be able to distinguish better who is apt to surrender, and who is not. Until then, it may be hit and miss.

No worries, mate. Rhasa has no plans. She is chaotic good with a bit of righteous anger, just taking advantage of the opportunity that has presented itself. I'm just trying to react to what's occurring from the perspective of someone that really doesn't know who she's aiding, just that they seem to have the same idea, taking down the bandits.

Megan:

Spoiler:
I've been thinking trying to come up with an ultimate objective for this seeming suicide mission of taking on the bandits and I think it's about 75% pride (they attacked and defeated the party she was hired to protect) and 25% recovery (they took something that she wants to return to her erstwhile employer). To that end, I thought I would place it in your hands -- perhaps it is a map or a clue to something you would bring our attention to or perhaps it's a map to a mythical place that no longer exists (or possibly never did).

She could recover the item, whatever it is, and take it to Oleg's for him to ship back to the owner.

I also figure that we came through Oleg's on our way, Rhasa and a small party (three or four) scholar/cartographer/experts that have since returned home because they were left with the clothes on their backs when the bandits took them by surprise one morning. Rhasa (and Sunset) were already up and scouting out the day's trail. She returned too late to do more than escort her employer back to Oleg's. They will return, but they need to raise funds to hire more muscle and re-purchase supplies. The only thing they lost of true value to them was the <insert DM's idea here>, which Rhasa has decided to retrieve for them.

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