| Pharnox |
question of note does Tikkle want some of the "big" guns for his ship?
Like say this, http://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment---final/weapons/weapon-descriptions/doubl e-hackbut or this http://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment---final/weapons/weapon-descriptions/culve rin-hand-bombard?
You may be able to negotiate with the GM for a "ship" allowance to represent your years of piracy...and the fact that most of your gold went into "upgrading" the ship.
| Gashka |
@Pharnox Hey, I already had bought 4 potions before I remembered the buying at base price thing you were offering. That's a pretty fair amount though right? I don't wanna be carrying around too much stuff.
| Gashka |
Okay...for whatever reason I'm tired again and I'm starting to fall asleep at the desk...so, I think I'm gonna go lay back down and probably sleep for a while. Hope everyone has a good night. For those of you at work...have a safe drive home. This little chickadee is gonna hit the bed.
| Pharnox |
Personal advice get a bandoleer to store your potions, that could allow you to have say ten to twelve potions and make sense from an RP standpoint. And a individual potion would likely only be a few ounces, they are stored in small vials after all (the Drow long ago economized potion crafting, surface worlder potions use twice to three times the liquid and reagents that Drow potions do).
| Gashka |
Okay...I did good. Made breakfast burrito's using Chorizo and eggs, with cheese, just a bit of sour cream, and some mild salsa. Had that with a glass of V8 splash, and now I'm having a few bites of Mango.
Not sure how to react to the whole funeral thing. I'll try to think of something, if not I'll wait and respond to whoever else posts first. Hehe
| Tikkle |
Paizo has been trippin balls for a few days now... anyway just FYI I'm polishing Tikkle's character sheet up, but with the packing I have to do, it may take a day or even a few. I'll try to be set before our first fight.
I didn't realize that that sheet doesn't reflect the right feat and has NO inventory.
| Gashka |
Gashka just told off Pharnox big time...doubt it'll do any good though. NOthing seems to get through that thick bloated head of his. LOL
Sorry, just calling it like I see it.
| Pharnox |
It's Pharnox being Pharnox, he is ruthless by nature and his only true reason for allying with you is mutual threat... The Piper needs to die, violently. Furthermore Pharnox is looking at himself as the only sane man in the lot of you, to Pharnox the Piper is a threat that will be brought low just as the abominations, Derro and Duergar of the Deeps have been brought low by the Drow... With plentiful firepower, surprise and the correct tools for the job.
This quote from Mass Effect 3 is one Pharnox lives by
Diplomacy does not win wars, powerful and plentiful firearms do.
| Gashka |
Well, this is NOT his world anymore....eventually I feel that Pharnox will learn that. He is NOT the only sane one and NOT better than everyone else, and he will learn that too or come to a miserable lonely end. I get that it's him being him...but there is such a thing as TOO much.
There are still alot of things that he needs to learn...one is when to back off. I as myself understand where he is coming from...our characters on the other hand are another matter. If he keeps trying to push his ways off on them...something very very bad will happen.
Just fair warning, and not saying it to be mean but that's how their characters are as well. I could say more...but I think I'll save it and see how things pan out from here.
| Vallterra |
gaaa, Nox, you an't just go with it.
I get it your a Drow some mega powerful race that is superior to every other living species and you have to prove it with every breath.
better equipment, smarter, stronger, faster, perfect in every way.
if the only way to get a point across is to actually go all out real damage then so be it. but I cannot go on with the friggin I'm the greatest attitude.
| Pharnox |
No if you had actually aimed for the head it would make sense or perhaps the leg... But not the boots, think logically Drow footwear is going to be bloody impervious to mere rocks and so forth... What do you think they do with that innate 8+ climb bonus?
Drow are not perfect, social ineptitude is their one weakness...
| Vallterra |
Fine then I was going for attention getting and no damage. terra will just hurl a friggin rock at Nox's head but that will cause actual damage which is not what she was after.
I also don't give a crap what is logical about your Drow, you have been on the surface for 10 years and you have failed to adapt one little bit.
why the heck haven't you conquered the surface yet? since we are all inept and stupid.
| Gashka |
Why do we bother arguing with him? There's no point Terra...when you try to argue with someone who always thinks they're right, even when they're wrong...all you do is end up vexing yourself and giving him more attention. We should just let it go....he'll learn for himself...eventually or he won't and he'll die. Either way....it's no big. Let him think whatever he wants because in the long run...it doesn't even matter.
| Lo'Laan Jin |
Sorry. Been a hectic day at work. I ordered a sandwich at 4 and I didn't get to finish it until 9:30 because I've been busy with the chaotic mess I walked into today.
| Gashka |
Awwe, I'm sorry. I hate having nights like that....probably similar to walking into work and finding out I'm the only patient care tech for 30 patients. Hopefully tomorrow will be better for you.
| Pharnox |
Drow taking over the world? Drow are mercantile megalomaniacs, not conquerors (except in business, science, manufacturing etc... that is a domain they rule over with an alchemical iron fist). If there is a RL country that the Drow would like it would be Japan (the Drow would look at the US and go "you could have been so much more..."). As when we think about it the Japanese have switched from military conquest to economic conquest, considering that they are just slightly smaller then California they have done well. At the third highest Gross National Product nation in the world they will be running Asia unless the US gets it's act together and moves like lightning... That is the position the Drow want to be in at least on the surface world, who honestly wants to rule over the world?
| Gashka |
*slaps hand to forhead* never mind...just never mind.
Speaking of Japan...my friend from over there wrote and sent me pictures of the new baby she had. Sooo cute...she's been after me forever to come over there for a visit. That's still a ways off though, and I don't trust airplanes...so don't know how exactly that would work out.
| Pharnox |
@Tikkle
In ideal conditions they could certainly pierce platemail, think the 300 English longbowmen on the plain of mud against what was it...half of all the knights in France? However if conditions were less then ideal the longbow wasn't going to beat platemail, as even in the battle of Mud (as I am going to call it, can't remember the bloody name) it wasn't the arrows piercing the armor that did the knights in... It was the arrows striking with such force that they knocked the knights out of the saddle and onto the muddy ground... On a plain of Mud something in full platemail isn't getting up...
The real thing that damned longbows compared to ball and powder guns though was this simple, brutal reality... Longbows just like they are in pathfinder are MAD (multi-attribute-dependent, *looks pointedly at monk*) you both had to possess the hand dexterity to use the longbow effectively and you had to have the strength to pull it. This took years to develop, if you lost 300 longbowmen replacing them was going to be a task that took years.
By contrast it only took a week to teach your peasants how to use that fine, new fangled musket. This combined with the realization that metal armor was now just not worth it meant that an army was now suddenly cheap (at least in comparison to your grandfather's tin can army). All these factors made the gun superior to the longbow when you took everything into account. From that point onward platemail armor was kind of like jewelry, pretty to look at but worth nothing on the battlefield.
Also it actually costed virtually nothing to train your army in using muskets, you could do it even before the guns arrived from their foundry. All you had to do was what the Nazis did to get around the "your army can only be so big law" imposed by the allies after WW1, organize a massive "labor corps" and drill them in an open field with shovels instead of rifles on their shoulders... They even practiced advanced blitzkrieg and tank tactics with tractors (like me you shall now call them "training tanks" or TTs for short). By the time you were done all you had to do was teach your troops to fire and clean the rifles and you were set...
Yes I have way to much time on my hands...
| Tikkle |
lol touche. Still, 1d6/20ft vs 1d8/100ft... not seeing where "Superior weapon" is justified.
| Tikkle |
Admittedly though, I would've taken a gun had something confirmed that Panache could really be interchanged with grit like the guide seems to say...
| Pharnox |
note that a musket while having only a range of forty feet does 1d12 of damage and has x4 crit multiplier...
And if Flynt is willing to live with ambushing his enemies for the rest of his life he could use a double hackbutt, which does 2d12 damage per shot... There is no kill like overkill.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment---final/weapons/firearms
Don't worry too much kitty, if the rules are transparent Pharnox will have by that time the ability to manufacture magical firearms. How does a sweet, 1+ Reliable Pepperbox pistol (6 shots) sound to the kitty?
| Tikkle |
Eh, I'm still by far a melee combatant, so I'm loathe to take another feat or spend the cash on that, but we'll see... It really depends on whether I can use Grit deeds.