DitheringDMs Savage Tide

Game Master DitheringFool

I like the fact that Lance has a trouble just killing people but that guns don't do subdual damage.

I like the fact that Lance has a trouble just killing people but that guns don't do subdual damage.

You could always club them with the hilt once the ammo runs out!

I like the fact that Lance has a trouble just killing people but that guns don't do subdual damage.

Or you can use trick shots to disarm your opponents.

ArchLich wrote:

I like the fact that Lance has a trouble just killing people but that guns don't do subdual damage.

You could always club them with the hilt once the ammo runs out!

That is exactly why the were shaped like this. See the reinforced handle?

Summer nods then says " There is a leaf that we sometimes use for a sedative when someone is injured. I could go and get some." Dithering DM: What kind of plant is it that I should use?

I think we can use this resource as a basis - link

Mechanics wise, lets say Bullrush is your best bet. You can get some from Elaine's shop or from the Alchemist’s Guild. A single dose costs 2sp and requires a Craft(Herbal) check to make sure the application will effectively induce sleep in the recipient. They will get a pretty easy DC to beat that will be enhanced by your craft roll...I'll do some fiddling around and try to come up with some more definitive before you need it!

That is exactly why the were shaped like this. See the reinforced handle?

Nice!

How about this for a fancy model?

ManPig, if you're still lurking around there is an odd PbP trying to gain life here...

In the spirit of open communication:

The game is not moving along as quickly as I expected. This is my first attempt at DMing a PbP.

Am I doing something wrong - or could I be doing something better?

Do you have any thoughts/comments/suggestions? If you are participating in other PbPs, what works over there?

Thanks!

In the spirit of open communication:

The game is not moving along as quickly as I expected. This is my first attempt at DMing a PbP.

Am I doing something wrong - or could I be doing something better?

Do you have any thoughts/comments/suggestions? If you are participating in other PbPs, what works over there?

Thanks!

I think things are going just fine. PBP runs much slower than regular game because of the limited ammount of actions we can put into one post. Then we have to wait for everyone to read up and respond before moving on to the next action. Remember that we started this right before the holidays and the RPG superstar contest has slowed some of it down as well. As players we are still geting to know each other in and out of character so the longer we are at it the smother it will go as we get to know how the others are going to react in different situations. Real life can get in the way of PBP and slow them down some as well so be patient and keep at it. A suggestion to keep things moving is to annouce a particular day that you are going to move on with or with out everyones post. Perhapse evey tuesday and thursday or whatever works best for you as the DM. Then eveyone knows when the next "turn" or "round" will be posted. If a player dosnt get a post in then it is asumed they will perform a generic action that best fits the situation as you the DM sees fit. I did this in a PBP that I ran at another site a year ago and it seemed to work out pretty good. For the record I am haveing a lot of fun and am excitd to see where this adventure leads.

I have added a part to the bottom of Prats character profile showing his reactions to the other PC's. I will update it from time to time and may even include Prats personal reflections on reocurring NPC's to help you understand my roleplaying.

I think...

...where this adventure leads.

Thanks for taking the time to comment!

I have added a part to the bottom of Prats character profile showing his reactions to the other PC's. I will update it from time to time and may even include Prats personal reflections on reocurring NPC's to help you understand my roleplaying.

This is an awesome idea! You should spread the word on this...

In the spirit of open communication:

The game is not moving along as quickly as I expected. This is my first attempt at DMing a PbP.

Am I doing something wrong - or could I be doing something better?

Do you have any thoughts/comments/suggestions? If you are participating in other PbPs, what works over there?

Thanks!

This is one of my first pbps, so I don't really have any advice. But I, for one, am really enjoying the game, so don't get discouraged.

I think part of the problem may be that we're 0-level, so we're still getting our feet wet, so to speak, with ourselves and with each other. If we were 1st, some of could have come up with connections before playing, and of course you could throw us into a combat much sooner and we'd bond then.

Hindsight's 20/20 of course, but maybe it's something to think of for your next pbp. I think we're starting to bond, and once we have a few more battles under our belts, and a better idea of our individual roles within the party, things will pick up.

But I agree Mithril Dragon, pick a time when you're going to advance the game and do it. That will keep things moving, and hopefully will keep us checking in to roleplay or whatever before we get left behind!

1. I updated Prats page to show his new equipment and added an emcumbrance section.

2. If you pick a day or two the auto advance the game you should also let us know what time of day you will most likey do it. I dont mean to say you have to do it at 12 pm each time, just a general idea if it will be in the AM late afternoon or past midnight. This will let us as players know when we need to get our posts done. I some times post in the after noon and some times late at night because of the strange hours I work and that would be helpful for me to know.

I will be posting the next push tomorrow morning* Central Standard time so everyone chime in and away we go!

*sorry I can't be more specific - I might suffer a drastic bout of laziness and sleep in.

I will be posting the next push tomorrow morning* Central Standard time so everyone chime in and away we go!

*sorry I can't be more specific - I might suffer a drastic bout of laziness and sleep in.

Heh. I suffer one of those just about every day.

DitheringDM wrote:

I will be posting the next push tomorrow morning* Central Standard time so everyone chime in and away we go!

*sorry I can't be more specific - I might suffer a drastic bout of laziness and sleep in.

Heh. I suffer one of those just about every day.

I wish I could! Three year olds just dont understand the concept of sleeping in. This morning she was banging on my head with a stuffed animal loudly proclaiming "I want cartoons."

SargonX wrote:

DitheringDM wrote:

I will be posting the next push tomorrow morning* Central Standard time so everyone chime in and away we go!

*sorry I can't be more specific - I might suffer a drastic bout of laziness and sleep in.

Heh. I suffer one of those just about every day.

I wish I could! Three year olds just dont understand the concept of sleeping in. This morning she was banging on my head with a stuffed animal loudly proclaiming "I want cartoons."

Hehehehehe and ouch at the same time.

She did kiss it and make it feel better so its all good.

I wish I could! Three year olds just dont understand the concept of sleeping in. This morning she was banging on my head with a stuffed animal loudly proclaiming "I want cartoons."

I hear ya...except my three year old has reinforcements with my 10 month old!

MythrilDragon wrote:

I wish I could! Three year olds just dont understand the concept of sleeping in. This morning she was banging on my head with a stuffed animal loudly proclaiming "I want cartoons."

I hear ya...except my three year old has reinforcements with my 10 month old!

I dont even want to think about what it is going to be like after the next one gets here.

Question--

You posted that the shield was a heavy wooden shield with half toughness and a +1 AC bonus. I went to add the sheild to my character sheet since Lam-ang dosn't want it and found that in the PHB a Heavy shiled is AC +2 while a light shield is +1. The heavy one weighs twice as much and has has a 15% arcane spell fail over a 5% with the light. Both have a listed hardness of 5. The light has 7hp while the heavy has 15hp. My question is this a light shiled with half hardness as described on pg 165 of the players handbook or is it a heavy shield and the half is half the armor protection down to +1 from +2?

Thanks

Question--

You posted that the shield was a heavy wooden shield with half toughness and a +1 AC bonus. I went to add the sheild to my character sheet since Lam-ang dosn't want it and found that in the PHB a Heavy shiled is AC +2 while a light shield is +1. The heavy one weighs twice as much and has has a 15% arcane spell fail over a 5% with the light. Both have a listed hardness of 5. The light has 7hp while the heavy has 15hp. My question is this a light shiled with half hardness as described on pg 165 of the players handbook or is it a heavy shield and the half is half the armor protection down to +1 from +2?

Thanks

True enough - I imagine a stage shield as being big and flashy so as to be easily identifiable, yet not quite up to weaponsmith standards. It's basically a light shield in benefit but a heavy shield in penalty.

MythrilDragon wrote:

Question--

You posted that the shield was a heavy wooden shield with half toughness and a +1 AC bonus. I went to add the sheild to my character sheet since Lam-ang dosn't want it and found that in the PHB a Heavy shiled is AC +2 while a light shield is +1. The heavy one weighs twice as much and has has a 15% arcane spell fail over a 5% with the light. Both have a listed hardness of 5. The light has 7hp while the heavy has 15hp. My question is this a light shiled with half hardness as described on pg 165 of the players handbook or is it a heavy shield and the half is half the armor protection down to +1 from +2?

Thanks

True enough - I imagine a stage shield as being big and flashy so as to be easily identifiable, yet not quite up to weaponsmith standards. It's basically a light shield in benefit but a heavy shield in penalty.

Can I stat it like this

AC bonus +1, AC check penalty -2, Arcane Spell Fail 15%, weight 5 lbs.
Hardness 5 with 7 hp.

That is the light shield bonus, weight and hardenss. I figure it would be lighter than a combat ready hvy wooden shiled because cheeper wood would have been used, hence it is not as tough. The penalties of Armor check and spell fail are the heavy shield. I'll up date Prats profile once I see your final decision.

Thanks

MythrilDragon, I really liked how you put Prat's impression of fellow adventurers on his profile page. I'm going to do that with some of my PbP character first chance I get.

PS Great game!

MythrilDragon, I really liked how you put Prat's impression of fellow adventurers on his profile page. I'm going to do that with some of my PbP character first chance I get.

PS Great game!

Thanks, I did it so that other players and the DM know how Prat sees them so that they understand why he act the way he does when interacting with them.

Thanks, I did it so that other players and the DM know how Prat sees them so that they understand why he act the way he does when interacting with them.

I'm selling your idea in another game I'm in...you might appreciate my first stab here.

MythrilDragon wrote:

Thanks, I did it so that other players and the DM know how Prat sees them so that they understand why he act the way he does when interacting with them.

I'm selling your idea in another game I'm in...you might appreciate my first stab here.

Not a Dwarf! LOL

Any answer to my shield question above???

AWSOME JOB ROB!!!!!!!

Kudos to who ever did the linked art. Is it yours DitheringFool?

Any answer to my shield question above???

Hmmm, sorry, yeah, that'll do.

Kudos to who ever did the linked art. Is it yours DitheringFool?

Good heavens no! I can't draw a straight line. But I agree, it is beautiful - I love pencil/charcoal art.

AWSOME JOB ROB!!!!!!!

Thanks! :)

MythrilDragon wrote:

AWSOME JOB ROB!!!!!!!

Thanks! :)

Congratulations !!! So when are we going to see the Iskandrian God-King PrC? ;D

Team, my computer is connected to the datasphere via a humble little Buffalo Tech wireless dongle thingy. It has died. I'm borrowing my wife's PC to let you know I will (continue) to be out of the loop untill tomorrow night (I'll get a new USB adapter after work). Sorry about the delay.

DitheringDM wrote:

...so what are you going to do, punch them? And don't give me that Top 4 excuse either :)

I'm just messing with ya - congratulations! We'll cover for you as much as we can.

Grumble, grumble, grumble. As I was foolishly taking point, I foolishly thought of myself as going in armed, which goes to show that I was even more foolish than I thought! :)

But this brings up a good point. You know you better than I do. Luenevyn only has a club so that makes sense. To avoid confusion, I would suggest everyone add a line or two on their characters that let me know their default behaviors.

For example:

TACTICS

Before Combat Keeps a throwing axe ready if his hand axe is not already there.
During Combat Gengar will try to stay out of melee as best as possible, prefering to throw axes instead. If there is no other choice the little dwarf will tumble around trying to set up flanking for others.
Morale If there is obvious treasure involved, Gengar is highly motivated to fight. However, he has no desire to die just yet and has no qualms with running away.

OR

Casual keeps hidden dagger in sleeve
Stealthy Keeps a dagger in hand
Adventuring always has club in hand

Luenevyn wrote:

DitheringDM wrote:

...so what are you going to do, punch them? And don't give me that Top 4 excuse either :)

I'm just messing with ya - congratulations! We'll cover for you as much as we can.

Grumble, grumble, grumble. As I was foolishly taking point, I foolishly thought of myself as going in armed, which goes to show that I was even more foolish than I thought! :)

But this brings up a good point. You know you better than I do. Luenevyn only has a club so that makes sense. To avoid confusion, I would suggest everyone add a line or two on their characters that let me know their default behaviors.

For example:

TACTICS

Before Combat Keeps a throwing axe ready if his hand axe is not already there.
During Combat Gengar will try to stay out of melee as best as possible, prefering to throw axes instead. If there is no other choice the little dwarf will tumble around trying to set up flanking for others.
Morale If there is obvious treasure involved, Gengar is highly motivated to fight. However, he has no desire to die just yet and has no qualms with running away.

OR

Casual keeps hidden dagger in sleeve
Stealthy Keeps a dagger in hand
Adventuring always has club in hand

That's a good idea. I've updated Luenevyn with tactics (such as they are, at 0-level with a club and no class skills), and my relations with the other PCs (a la Prat).

I have also added a bit of impressions and tactics to Summer's page. BTW nice combat map.

Sorry I have been away.
I have been sick all week. Sudden wham-bam flu out of nowhere.
Good thing I had a flu shot this year. :P

See, that's why I stay away from flu shots! ;) Hope you're feeling better.

Come on over to the game thread. A giant dog is about to eat Prat! We could use your help!

See, that's why I stay away from flu shots! ;) Hope you're feeling better.

Come on over to the game thread. A giant dog is about to eat Prat! We could use your help!

Maybe I should change Prat's name to Kibble ;}

Sorry I have been away.

I have been sick all week. Sudden wham-bam flu out of nowhere.
Good thing I had a flu shot this year. :P

Sorry to hear that - so far I have managed to avoid getting sick. Unfortunately, my working conditions pretty guaruntee I'm doomed if anyone in my group comes down with it. Anyway, welcome back.

We are in round two, I moved you to the end of the initiative round, so go ahead a post!

everyone: I'll try to update the map and add the baddies tonight if I can.

I have also added a bit of impressions and tactics to Summer's page.

Woo-hoo! Thanks! I appreciate it.

ArchLich, where are ya? Jump back in or at least know how things are going.

Here is a quick synopsis: very big dog is chasing everyone towards a rope Luenevyn tossed onto the balcony of the plantation.

Sorry everyone...my company has blocked all my DnD sites so I can't post from work any more :(

I'll try to reorganize my schedule to pick it up a bit.

I don't know where to jump in. But I'll try.

DM:

Time for a little re-invigoration!

Congratulations!!! Everyone is first level!

Level up your character sheets and let me know here if you have any questions. You gain max hp for your chosen class but no money.

Woot! :D

Question: we were 0-level, and now we're 1st. But do we add all our bonuses and things together as if we were multi-classing. Or do our 1st-level bonuses overwrite our 0-level ones?

Just FYI it may be a little while on Summer's update because I am teetering on the edge of sickness and am not up to much right now

Woot! :D

Question: we were 0-level, and now we're 1st. But do we add all our bonuses and things together as if we were multi-classing. Or do our 1st-level bonuses overwrite our 0-level ones?

Add your new class just like when multiclassing. A commoner doesn't give you much. The end result should look like a 1st level PC with double attribute bonuses on saves and +4+Con Bonus hps. To keep XPs simple just assume you're starting with zero.

Just FYI it may be a little while on Summer's update because I am teetering on the edge of sickness and am not up to much right now

Bummer - take care! I was pretty under the weather most of last week...I'm just starting to feel good again.

So that's commoner 1/PC class?

Yes!

I look forward to checking everyone out.

Question about skill points:

As a 1st level rogue, I would normally get 44 skill points (+11 more at 2nd level). But as a commoner multiclassing into rogue, I only have 20 points at 1st + 11 more now for a total of 31 skill points, less than I would normally have at first level!

I don't want to sound like I'm b+$+@ing, but I think that lots of skills are part of the rogue's abilities (or "powers" in 4e-speak).

Any chance I can get normal 1st-level rogue skill points, or am I just screwed since I'm playing the rogue? :/

2nd edit: And are max ranks for skills 4 or 5?

Hmmm, now I'm thinking of a level of fighter before I go into rogue (feats & base attack & hit points, you know). Will the lack of a real rogue starting off hurt us?

Still interested in the skill points question, though...