Dark Ages Vampire - Bloodlines (Inactive)

Game Master Dennis Harry

Bloodlines is a continuation of the now defunct table top Dark Ages Vampire game wherein the PC's have created lineal descendants throughout the ages.

Attendees seeking a seat or have a seat in the Inner Circle:

Assamite - Lord Bajazet al Nasir.

Brujah – Lady Meridie de Chancie, Lord Criatas, “Dark”Selena, Robin Leeland.

Cappadocian – Lord Benne.

Gangrel – Milov Petrankov.

Lasombra - Prince Narses the Archbishop of Nod

Malkavian – Antione le Fanu, Lutz von Hohenzollern.

Nosferatu – Cristo Petradon, Simon.

Salubri – Brian Stack.

Setites – Sadir.

Toreador – Rafael de Corazon, Francois Villon, Helene la Jouste.

Tremere - Radek, Mistress Fanchon.

Tzimisce – Myca Vykos.

Ventrue – Alyssa Gilbert, Lady Jadviga Almanov, Lanzo von Saschen, Prince Alexander.

Remember - only those listed get votes. Of course influencing their Childer can go a long way to getting a vote.

Social Combat:

Let me first thank Sir Dunstan and his excellent Game of Thrones campaign as the inspiration for this rules tweak. A shout out to Vitaliano who also does an excellent job as a player in that campaign.

Game of Thrones has a Social Combat system that, while not translatable directly, I used as inspiration for this campaign.

This is a proposed rules set and I am more than happy to hear feedback from Players before I implement it in full.

Roleplaying is still required to get your point across. However, I think a mechanical system could be beneficial for this scenario, a scenario quite unlike anything I have ever done in a Vampire game before.

Making My Case

To convince a “voter” to side with your Sire, you may roll the following set of Attributes and Abilities:

1. Against someone who is clearly NOT in your favor --- Manipulation+Subterfuge+Politics
2. Against someone who is NEUTRAL – Charisma+Expression+Politics

The difficulty of all rolls is that Cainites Willpower. You will need to score as many successes as they have Willpower to win the contest. Once you engage the voter, you will only have three rounds to make your case and can only attempt do so one time per night.

If you have Presence – Awe or Enrancement, you may attempt to use these powers in conjunction with the above roll. Each success utilizing that Discipline gives you one more success on your total roll.

Beware, failing in using Presence in Elysium can lead to Sanctions by Thomas Brexiano.

Also beware, Cainites may try to turn this system around on you…

But What if Someone Else Tries This on a Voter I just Brought to my Side?

Amount of successes is a key factor here, you will want to score as many success as you can to ensure that a rival does not try to take that vote from you!

Certain NPC’s already believe that others are in their favor and would never change their votes. Those will be the toughest cookies to break.

Note this system cannot be used on:

Your In-Clan rivals, no amount of sweet talking or bribes will change their minds they all want this position badly.

Prince Narses, he simply will not entertain such discourse. Of course, this does not mean you cannot try to get into the ears of one of his Childer to have them speak with him…

Discerning My Quarry’s Intent

How can I tell if someone is for or against me despite what they are saying?

Make a Perception+Empathy+Politics roll.

The difficulty is 10, less that Cainites Humanity score. Those closer to the Beast are much harder to read. For every Century over 300 years that Cainite has lived, the DC will be increased by 1, topping out at 10, as these Cainites have well and truly mastered this game to have existed for so long in the first place.

Once you engage the voter, you will only have three rounds to ferret out their intent and can only attempt do so one time per night. You will need to score as many successes as they have Willpower to ascertain their intent.

If you have Auspex – Read the Soul or Invade the Mind, you may attempt to use these powers in conjunction with the above roll. Each success utilizing that Discipline gives you one more success on your total roll.

How else can I make my case?

The use of Presence, while frowned upon, is much less cause for censure than using Dominate. Dominate does not work on a Cainite whose blood is closer to Caine than your own. If you seek to use Dominate to convince a voter (or perhaps one of the Childer?) to vote for your Sire, it would be best used elsewhere in the city.

Boons – the boon system of quid pro quo can also be used to gain votes. You will need to offer something of course that that voter does not have or cannot get from another candidate.

Eliminate my rivals. This one is obvious though failure to do so without detection may subject YOU to the Final Death!


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Shadow's Status

OK, last piece of business tonight.

You can learn combination Disciplines if you so choose, here's a list Combination Disciplines

There may be pre-requisites check with me if there are before you try and learn any. They can be taught by a teacher or self-taught, I believe self-taught requires more training time so you'd need to alert me that you are trying to develop one if you have no Mentor. That requires some Occult rolls or Discipline rolls to try and figure them out.


Male Nosferatu 6th Generation; BP 28/30, xp saved: 0, spent 155

Couple of messages to you Shadow!


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Onfroi wrote:
Couple of messages to you Shadow!

Back at you :-)


Male Nosferatu 6th Generation; BP 28/30, xp saved: 0, spent 155

15 points spent on fort to go 3 leaving 20 pts left for upcoming spends


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Onfroi wrote:
15 points spent on fort to go 3 leaving 20 pts left for upcoming spends

Do you have the Merit that allows for Fortitude as an IN Clan Discipline? Otherwise it would cost you 7x current rating for each Dot.

Nosferatu In Clan are Anamilism, Potence, and Obfuscate.


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Lorenzo, look at the post below and the thread that follows thereafter on that same page:

The Chamber Discovered!

Lorenzo Downtime

Then a link to the Discussion thread where Downtime was completed:

Lorenzo Downtime Continued

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This one is just for fun.

JOurnal.


Clan Malkavian Blood Pool 19/30

Hahaha...

My four favored (once I learn one of them) have some interesting combos I will most certainly want to learn.


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Male Nosferatu 6th Generation; BP 28/30, xp saved: 0, spent 155

No problem thanks for the clarification. So 7 pts to lv 2 fort and 14 pts to lv 3 is 21 pts leaving me 14 pts left plus the 1 you just gave me for 15.


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Onfroi:
No interest in Obfuscate 6?


Male Italian (Toreador) Bloodpool 25? out of 40

Well, it turns out it was not one week of no fix, but two. The tech help I had had family emergencies pop up and I sure couldn't tell them to forget about that.

As it stands, right now, my lap top is a paperweight... whether it will actually be salvaged or not is unsure, so I'm getting a new one. I think it arrives this Thursday.

I have limited access to another computer, and will try to catch up at least a little but may still be relatively quiet until friday.

Very sorry :(


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No worries, your scene will be relatively quick to wrap up :-)


Norwegian Mercenary / Aspiring Condottiero | 7th Generation Clan Tzimisce | BP 19/20 | Willpower 7/8 | Wound Level 0 | Active Effects: Auspex (Heightened Senses)

Will have post up tonight. Also hope to review possible xp expenditures, but first things first :)


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Shadow ONLY:


Shadow's Status

I'll have a Padua post up tonight.


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Storyteller Shadow wrote:
I'll have a Padua post up tonight.

Sorry, hitting the wall a bit here. I'll update this scene tomorrow.


Norwegian Mercenary / Aspiring Condottiero | 7th Generation Clan Tzimisce | BP 19/20 | Willpower 7/8 | Wound Level 0 | Active Effects: Auspex (Heightened Senses)

I should have a Padua post up late tomorrow afternoon.


Shadow's Status

By Thursday I will close out this night. If you do not get a chance to respond I will assume you switch to non-relevant small talk in the scene you are currently in and move you back to your Haven, uneventfully :-)


Male Ventrue 8 Generation 14/15 BP

XP spending:

5 XP - Fortitude 1=>2
8 XP - Intelligence 2=>3
3 XP - New Knowledge(Occult) 0=>1


Shadow's Status

I will be out tomorrow night but I do not think too late.

When I get home, I will close down Saturday night to any who are still interacting in Elysium and move to Sunday night, the final night for selection of the Low Clans including Nosferatu, Tremere, and Malkavian. That will set all 13 members of the Inner Circle of the shiny new Camarilla ;-)

I will also have a by Day post up for you Geoffroi.

The Padua interactions I will try to wrap by the end of this month and move Bernardo and Einar back to Venice for that Sunday evening.


Generation 8th Clan Assamite (Warrior caste) Blood 11/15; Will 5/7 Temp: Potency Point

I'm alive and kicking. I swore I got Durdona's last post done, but it must have been eaten. Updating now.


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Durdona Checheg v20 wrote:
I'm alive and kicking. I swore I got Durdona's last post done, but it must have been eaten. Updating now.

Damn Post Monsters!


Clan Malkavian Blood Pool 19/30

Had I been more active this weekend I might have delved into that trap. However, working for the convention really took a toll on me and I needed a few days to recover.


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Vitaliano da Riva wrote:
Had I been more active this weekend I might have delved into that trap. However, working for the convention really took a toll on me and I needed a few days to recover.

You know what's coming...


Norwegian Mercenary / Aspiring Condottiero | 7th Generation Clan Tzimisce | BP 19/20 | Willpower 7/8 | Wound Level 0 | Active Effects: Auspex (Heightened Senses)

I will have a post up tonight.


Norwegian Mercenary / Aspiring Condottiero | 7th Generation Clan Tzimisce | BP 19/20 | Willpower 7/8 | Wound Level 0 | Active Effects: Auspex (Heightened Senses)

Or, y'know, this morning :)


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Einar Arnesen wrote:
Or, y'know, this morning :)

:-)


Shadow's Status

Getting late and I need to be up early, will get things moving tomorrow.


Shadow's Status

I won't be able to update until Saturday night or Sunday morning, just not enough time.


Norwegian Mercenary / Aspiring Condottiero | 7th Generation Clan Tzimisce | BP 19/20 | Willpower 7/8 | Wound Level 0 | Active Effects: Auspex (Heightened Senses)
The Prince of Padua wrote:
"Tell me Einar, what Clan do you hail from and who is your Sire? What is your intended purpose here in my City?"

And there we have it! Mission going off rails in t-minus 3... 2... 1...

Should be able to get a gameplay post up tonight :)


Male Vampire Gangrel, 6th generation 0 xp saved/36 spent

Hehe like our interplay and your internal dialogue Einar


Norwegian Mercenary / Aspiring Condottiero | 7th Generation Clan Tzimisce | BP 19/20 | Willpower 7/8 | Wound Level 0 | Active Effects: Auspex (Heightened Senses)

The ability to do internal monologue is pretty much my favorite aspect of pbp gaming :)

I should be able to get a gameplay post up sometime tonight.


Norwegian Mercenary / Aspiring Condottiero | 7th Generation Clan Tzimisce | BP 19/20 | Willpower 7/8 | Wound Level 0 | Active Effects: Auspex (Heightened Senses)

Working on post now, hope to be done tonight. Trying to choose my words very carefully.

ST Shadow: In the spirit of Einar thinking on his feet, I'll spend 8 xp to increase his Wits from 2 to 3.


Shadow's Status

Sorry guys, too damned tired to get all the new posts up tonight.

I will have the next night rolling tomorrow night.


Shadow's Status

I'll finish the balance of opening posts when I get to work later today.


Norwegian Mercenary / Aspiring Condottiero | 7th Generation Clan Tzimisce | BP 19/20 | Willpower 7/8 | Wound Level 0 | Active Effects: Auspex (Heightened Senses)

I've had a busy week; will post in gameplay tonight :)


Clan Malkavian Blood Pool 19/30

I will try and get a post up tomorrow but it may be Wednesday before I can. Babies are unpredictable. It's like they dont know what they are doing.


Male Nosferatu 6th Generation; BP 28/30, xp saved: 0, spent 155

Either that or babies know everything they are doing... Baby Machivelli


Clan Malkavian Blood Pool 19/30

His aversion to sunlight does lean merit to your declaration.


Shadow's Status

OK, rocking and rolling once more :-)


Male Italian (Toreador) Bloodpool 25? out of 40

Paranoia is an unlife skill I'm told.

*Crosses fingers*


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Ranerius Bernerius wrote:

Paranoia is an unlife skill I'm told.

*Crosses fingers*

Ballsy! :-)


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Little theme of loyalty running through the threads this night :-)


Male Ventrue 8 Generation 14/15 BP
Storyteller wrote:

Lanzo pulls his wrist away, "I seek Loyalty. The full bond ensures Servitude. As I leave, you will remember that what you do is in mine, and Lord Hardestadt's best interests, not yours my Childe.

Our interests are your interests.

Full bond? I thought this was step 2 of 3?

With Step 3, I would be reluctant and argue necessity before submitting.

On a only partially related side note, there's an event in the Computer Game Europa Universalis 4 that deals with colonial subject nations, where the two possible decisions are:

They are "yourcountry". Our interests are theirs.
They are "yourcountry". Their interests are ours.

Enforcing your own policy or supporting theirs, respectively. I think a similar argument could be made here. Being bonded too strongly will cloud my vision, where I blindly seek to please Lanzo, and become unwilling to take risks or consider options that may arguably be superior. With the vast distance between us, that may be detrimental.
Plus, I could be forced to travel to him regulary to report and renew the bond, anyway-


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Franz Albert Capsali wrote:
Storyteller wrote:

Lanzo pulls his wrist away, "I seek Loyalty. The full bond ensures Servitude. As I leave, you will remember that what you do is in mine, and Lord Hardestadt's best interests, not yours my Childe.

Our interests are your interests.

Full bond? I thought this was step 2 of 3?

With Step 3, I would be reluctant and argue necessity before submitting.

On a only partially related side note, there's an event in the Computer Game Europa Universalis 4 that deals with colonial subject nations, where the two possible decisions are:

They are "yourcountry". Our interests are theirs.
They are "yourcountry". Their interests are ours.

Enforcing your own policy or supporting theirs, respectively. I think a similar argument could be made here. Being bonded too strongly will cloud my vision, where I blindly seek to please Lanzo, and become unwilling to take risks or consider options that may arguably be superior. With the vast distance between us, that may be detrimental.
Plus, I could be forced to travel to him regulary to report and renew the bond, anyway-

This is step 2, he was stating that Step 3 was not necessary, perhaps in a not so clear manner :-)


Male Italian (Toreador) Bloodpool 25? out of 40
Storyteller Shadow wrote:
Ranerius Bernerius wrote:

Paranoia is an unlife skill I'm told.

*Crosses fingers*

Ballsy! :-)

Well, if Ranerius gets ashed now, at least I can say he went out with spine.


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Ranerius Bernerius wrote:
Storyteller Shadow wrote:
Ranerius Bernerius wrote:

Paranoia is an unlife skill I'm told.

*Crosses fingers*

Ballsy! :-)
Well, if Ranerius gets ashed now, at least I can say he went out with spine.

....


Norwegian Mercenary / Aspiring Condottiero | 7th Generation Clan Tzimisce | BP 19/20 | Willpower 7/8 | Wound Level 0 | Active Effects: Auspex (Heightened Senses)

Sorry about delay - post is up!


Shadow's Status

I owe some of you posts, will get to them tomorrow.


Clan Malkavian Blood Pool 19/30

Sup upon me....damn my greedy brain just sitting here going, well now I could just start drinking and attempt to diablorize him right here and now. No one would blame me and I'm but a stupid childe young of the night, surely it could be forgiven to at least have a decent, seemingly intelligent man as the leader of the malkavians.


Shadow's Status

After mid-day tomorrow posting will be spotty again until Monday just an FYI.

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