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Dark Ages Vampire - Bloodlines

Game Master Dennis Harry

Bloodlines is a continuation of the now defunct table top Dark Ages Vampire game wherein the PC's have created lineal descendants throughout the ages.

Attendees seeking a seat or have a seat in the Inner Circle:

Assamite - Lord Bajazet al Nasir.

Brujah – Lady Meridie de Chancie, Lord Criatas, “Dark”Selena, Robin Leeland.

Cappadocian – Lord Benne.

Gangrel – Milov Petrankov.

Lasombra - Prince Narses the Archbishop of Nod

Malkavian – Antione le Fanu, Lutz von Hohenzollern.

Nosferatu – Cristo Petradon, Simon.

Salubri – Brian Stack.

Setites – Sadir.

Toreador – Rafael de Corazon, Francois Villon, Helene la Jouste.

Tremere - Radek, Mistress Fanchon.

Tzimisce – Myca Vykos.

Ventrue – Alyssa Gilbert, Lady Jadviga Almanov, Lanzo von Saschen, Prince Alexander.

Remember - only those listed get votes. Of course influencing their Childer can go a long way to getting a vote.

Social Combat:

Let me first thank Sir Dunstan and his excellent Game of Thrones campaign as the inspiration for this rules tweak. A shout out to Vitaliano who also does an excellent job as a player in that campaign.

Game of Thrones has a Social Combat system that, while not translatable directly, I used as inspiration for this campaign.

This is a proposed rules set and I am more than happy to hear feedback from Players before I implement it in full.

Roleplaying is still required to get your point across. However, I think a mechanical system could be beneficial for this scenario, a scenario quite unlike anything I have ever done in a Vampire game before.

Making My Case

To convince a “voter” to side with your Sire, you may roll the following set of Attributes and Abilities:

1. Against someone who is clearly NOT in your favor --- Manipulation+Subterfuge+Politics
2. Against someone who is NEUTRAL – Charisma+Expression+Politics

The difficulty of all rolls is that Cainites Willpower. You will need to score as many successes as they have Willpower to win the contest. Once you engage the voter, you will only have three rounds to make your case and can only attempt do so one time per night.

If you have Presence – Awe or Enrancement, you may attempt to use these powers in conjunction with the above roll. Each success utilizing that Discipline gives you one more success on your total roll.

Beware, failing in using Presence in Elysium can lead to Sanctions by Thomas Brexiano.

Also beware, Cainites may try to turn this system around on you…

But What if Someone Else Tries This on a Voter I just Brought to my Side?

Amount of successes is a key factor here, you will want to score as many success as you can to ensure that a rival does not try to take that vote from you!

Certain NPC’s already believe that others are in their favor and would never change their votes. Those will be the toughest cookies to break.

Note this system cannot be used on:

Your In-Clan rivals, no amount of sweet talking or bribes will change their minds they all want this position badly.

Prince Narses, he simply will not entertain such discourse. Of course, this does not mean you cannot try to get into the ears of one of his Childer to have them speak with him…

Discerning My Quarry’s Intent

How can I tell if someone is for or against me despite what they are saying?

Make a Perception+Empathy+Politics roll.

The difficulty is 10, less that Cainites Humanity score. Those closer to the Beast are much harder to read. For every Century over 300 years that Cainite has lived, the DC will be increased by 1, topping out at 10, as these Cainites have well and truly mastered this game to have existed for so long in the first place.

Once you engage the voter, you will only have three rounds to ferret out their intent and can only attempt do so one time per night. You will need to score as many successes as they have Willpower to ascertain their intent.

If you have Auspex – Read the Soul or Invade the Mind, you may attempt to use these powers in conjunction with the above roll. Each success utilizing that Discipline gives you one more success on your total roll.

How else can I make my case?

The use of Presence, while frowned upon, is much less cause for censure than using Dominate. Dominate does not work on a Cainite whose blood is closer to Caine than your own. If you seek to use Dominate to convince a voter (or perhaps one of the Childer?) to vote for your Sire, it would be best used elsewhere in the city.

Boons – the boon system of quid pro quo can also be used to gain votes. You will need to offer something of course that that voter does not have or cannot get from another candidate.

Eliminate my rivals. This one is obvious though failure to do so without detection may subject YOU to the Final Death!


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Yeah...he has not burned or current resident yet...
Male Ventrue 8 Generation 14/15 BP

As long as it's houses/castles/etc and not family/lovedones/friends that burn - the former is quite replace-able with resources, the later...not so much.

This is the player behind Onfroi. I happen also to be running a vampire game with a large Kung Fu twist. I am here to recruit for one or two brave souls willing to travel back to the dark ages. Please look at Falling Darkness.
Female 6th Generation Brujah|Blood Pool: 18/30|Willpower: 6/6

I'll give it a look-see. :)
Shadow's Status

Ugh, if not tonight tomorrow night I will update backed up by paper and more paper...
Female 6th Generation Brujah|Blood Pool: 18/30|Willpower: 6/6
GM Falling Darkness wrote:
This is the player behind Onfroi. I happen also to be running a vampire game with a large Kung Fu twist. I am here to recruit for one or two brave souls willing to travel back to the dark ages. Please look at Falling Darkness.

So, what are your CharGen rules for this game?

Male Italian (Toreador)
Sister Maria Bellarosa wrote:
GM Falling Darkness wrote:
This is the player behind Onfroi. I happen also to be running a vampire game with a large Kung Fu twist. I am here to recruit for one or two brave souls willing to travel back to the dark ages. Please look at Falling Darkness.
So, what are your CharGen rules for this game?

I'm curious as well

Character creation tarts as mortal with a bit of a different back story then normal dark ages... The character creation rules are in the campaign thread.
Male Nosferatu 6th Generation; BP 28/30, xp saved: 0, spent 155

God bless the United States Military and thank all soldiers past and present for the gift of freedom. My heroes.
Shadow's Status

Alright, I'll restart again either tonight or tomorrow morning for the I don't know how many time this year...
Shadow's Status

Sorry folks, running out of time here. I will be posting updates on Saturday. As I've said once a month for the last twelve months, hopefully things will get better and I can post more consistently.... blah.. blah... blah...

Hey do you just cut and paste? ;)
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Selene Spires wrote:
Hey do you just cut and paste? ;)

Heh, I should!

Shadow's Status

Tomorrow another update, not today.
Shadow's Status

Ripped off 5 or so hours writing for table top today, first time in a long time I've done that. Doing so means I'm timed out for the boards today (among other things I was planning on doing). The schedule should not be too harsh this week so I will try to check in at least twice if not 3 times this week as I know I need to get some Elysium interactions cooking ASAP.
Norwegian Mercenary / Aspiring Condottiero | 7th Generation Clan Tzimisce | BP 19/20 | Willpower 7/8 | Wound Level 0 | Active Effects: Auspex (Heightened Senses)

I'll get a gameplay post up sometime tomorrow evening.
Clan Malkavian Blood Pool 19/30

What is the roll for gathering information? I actually have no clue what I'd be using in this situation to try and find the wereabouts of a merchant family.
Clan Malkavian Blood Pool 19/30

Just wanted to offer a small warning, if I go silent suddenly, that it is just under twenty days till my first born's due date is. So I apologize in advance if I suddenly disappear for a few days. Should that happen, please bot as needed.
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Vitaliano da Riva wrote:
Just wanted to offer a small warning, if I go silent suddenly, that it is just under twenty days till my first born's due date is. So I apologize in advance if I suddenly disappear for a few days. Should that happen, please bot as needed.

OK!

Congrats in advance. I may keep you out of Elysium for the evening then, besides, this little side quest might be interesting all on its own :-)
Norwegian Mercenary / Aspiring Condottiero | 7th Generation Clan Tzimisce | BP 19/20 | Willpower 7/8 | Wound Level 0 | Active Effects: Auspex (Heightened Senses)

Apologies for the delay; fell behind a bit this past week with RL duties.
Male Nosferatu 6th Generation; BP 28/30, xp saved: 0, spent 155

Congrats Vitaliano. After raising four of my own and having them all move out I can say it is the most meaningful thing I have done.
Male Italian (Toreador)

Apologies for delay... rough week and a half

I'll try catch up in the next 12 hours
Clan Malkavian Blood Pool 19/30

What is the roll for gathering information? I actually have no clue what I'd be using in this situation to try and find the wereabouts of a merchant family.

Can't really post till such is known.
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Vitaliano da Riva wrote:

What is the roll for gathering information? I actually have no clue what I'd be using in this situation to try and find the wereabouts of a merchant family.

Can't really post till such is known.

Let's do Charisma + Politics + Carousing DC 7 - you can make 1 roll per hour (i.e. assume an hour passes by per roll) and require 8 cumulative successes to gather the exact detail you will need.

Male Italian (Toreador)
Ranerius Bernerius wrote:

Apologies for delay... rough week and a half

I'll try catch up in the next 12 hours

Of course it helps my self determined deadline when the internet doesn't crash on me for the night :(

Anyway, pardon me if My toreador seemed to jump on in there. I'm trying to get involved again :O
Male Ventrue 8 Generation 14/15 BP

@Ranerius:

I MEANT to make a remark about how that public debate thing worked out great for Cato the Elder...that whole "Carthage must be destroyed"-business. As I am only days old, I would figure I don't properly know all my history yet - so it would be a random remark that strikes close to home.
But I'd rather not step into the minefield of Roman Ventrue vs. Brujah Carthage. :)
So yeah, I meant to involve you as well, but for now, playing things save means standing next to Sire and not talking on the mere basis that the player finds something funny.
Shadow's Status

I'll give those outside Elysium another day or so to finish up their RP then will bring the group into Elysium.
Shadow's Status

Geoffroi nods grimly

“Aye, that is exactly the sense I got. He belongs to the night. We are surrounded by these creatures. I fear we have inadvertently come to their attention. Now I think we need to find a place to safely wait for dawn”

As if you would get back that easy ;_)
Shadow's Status

Will get to the next Court scene hopefully by tomorrow.
Shadow's Status

Sorry a bit tired tonight, will get to that scene tomorrow, no child or other plans to stand in my way tomorrow :-)
Shadow's Status

Damn, ended up working a bit late and had early gym today so could not get to this, will do by Friday evening.
Male Italian (Toreador)

A head's up. From the 23rd to the 29th I maybe in a bad internet zone (connection from slow to stop) so if you don't hear from me, that's what happened. Bot as needed.
Male Italian (Toreador)

Back. I need to shake my rust off.
Shadow's Status

I will update the thread at work tomorrow, got into it with a friend on the phone having an epiphany about life :-)
Shadow's Status

Letting the main group react to a rush to vote without the Judge present :-)
Male Nosferatu 6th Generation; BP 28/30, xp saved: 0, spent 155

Onfroi cares not unless she never returns...
Shadow's Status

Just lost an OV. Xing Shi has withdrawn from the Campaign. I have posted Recruitment for a new Lasombra.
Male Nosferatu 6th Generation; BP 28/30, xp saved: 0, spent 155

Aw man that sucks
Shadow's Status

Lost our Gangrel last night. I am Recruiting for the Lasombra, if we do not get one I will leave these two spots vacant and simply move forward. Attrition (and my own RL issues) has slowed the game down considerably the past few years and I want to get into the meat of the Chronicle sooner rather than later.
Male Nosferatu 6th Generation; BP 28/30, xp saved: 0, spent 155

Gah lost another suckage!
Male Italian (Toreador)

Darn, sorry for the losses. I hope the players do well in whatever new games or RL situations await them
Generation 8th Clan Assamite (Warrior caste) Blood 11/15; Will 5/7 Temp: Potency Point

Sorry to hear that.
Shadow's Status

No bites yet for Lasombra. If I hear nothing by Sunday, I will not bother to open Gangrel and simply move on with 11.

Assuming the spaces are stil open, if someone with a current character wants to switch to Lasombra or Gangrel I will consider it but that would mean abandoning your current PC.
5th Generation Cappadocian | Bloodpool: 26/40 | Willpower: 6/8

As much as I like the Gangrel and the Lasombra, I like Lorenzo too much even consider switching.
Male Nosferatu 6th Generation; BP 28/30, xp saved: 0, spent 155

I enjoy Onfroi very much.
Shadow's Status

A Lasombra candidate has stepped forward.

I may leave Gangrel open for now.
Male Italian (Toreador)

While tempting, I think I've grown fond of Ranerius :)
Shadow's Status

I am here, will update tomorrow, sorry for the delays this past 7-8 days.
Female 6th Generation Brujah|Blood Pool: 18/30|Willpower: 6/6

So, do I have to cast a vote too?
Male Vampire Gangrel, 6th generation 0 xp saved/36 spent

Hello one and all. Here to take up the role of Gangrel. Working on it now!
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