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As I have been working on the ranged cavalier I realized that the build I prefer requires a lot more gm fiat then I first remembered so I'm moving away from that. I'm going to build a sword master samurai instead using the sword saint archetype. Heavy combat focus with frontline melee.


Yeah, when I suggested the feat tax thing, I meant only for actual tax feats--those feats that offer a piddly benefit but serve mainly as gatekeeper feats to a tree--to be considered, and class features that grant those as bonus feats. The Power Attack/Deadly Aim/Piranha Strike trio, Combat Expertise, Dodge, etc.

For example, Combat Expertise. It's a tax, everyone who qualifies gets it at no cost. If you have a class feature that grants it (lore warden archetype level 2 springs to mind) you could replace it with another feat. Maybe one from the Combat Expertise tree if you want to keep it within reason.

If you want to go full-bore, I'm game, but I hadn't meant to suggest the whole system, my fault for not being clearer on that.

I'll have Kayin up some time today, maybe early tomorrow. It's a busy day and I'm feeling like a kicked a** on top of that right now. Might have to go with a quick-and-dirty barebones sheet, much though I dislike that prospect.

@Colin: Your samurai and my combat maneuver oracle should get on quite well, lol.


Male Human Expert 1

I kind of agree. It does seem like a lot of bookkeeping for the GM, and ups the power a lot.

That being said, I do like the versatility granted by letting things like weapon focus apply to a group of weapons instead of just one.


Male Tiefling (Qlippoth spawn) Oracle Level 4 /Bloodrager Level 1 | 23/43 hp | AC: 20(Shield spell / 24) / T: 11 / FF: 19 (23) | Uncanny Dodge / Resist: 5 Cold,Fire, Electricity | Fort: +6, Ref: +2, Will: +3 | CMB: +8, CMD: 19| Init: +5, Perception: +4, Darkvision

i'd like to keep the weapon finesse and dodge part mostly because i don't want rewrite and redo what i've already done. i'd lose quite a bit of work and it seems fair

i'm fine with dropping the deft and powerful manuevers...those are a bit much


Male Human Expert 1

Agreed. In any case, I don't think any of us(?) are focusing on maneuvers, so those would be more of a hassle for the GM than it would be for us.


It figures that as I start to finish up my build I come to find that one of the feats I was planning to take is one that is being voted out. Ah well, I wasn't planning to do a maneuver build anyway it would just have allowed for a bit more variability.


What're we thinking about, alignment-wise? The summoner cleric I'm building is probably going to work best as lawful good.


I'm leaning toward neutral good right now.


what sex are yall playing? anyone have any idea if they are planning romantic stuff in backstory or future with the NPCs? I am only asking because I find it funny that in this path there are 3 females ncps but only 1 male. I didn't know if any of yall wanted to "fight" over one, or will it be a "Dibbs!". if we have 3 females Sandru would be like, yay! since this is my first play by post I didn't know if there has ever been a inter party fight (lol) In any of these. I just wanna try to build around it to avoid conflicts because no one has presented their finished character yet as far as I know.


Male Human Expert 1

NG guy for me. Possible childhood crush on Amieko.


I'm planning "friendship with Ameiko" as well.

I'm caught in a circle of indecision. Very unusual for me.

Either I'm going to build a summoning-focused evangelist (which loses Medium Armor and Shields), or I'm going to build a blaster-focused theologian. Both are restricted to a single Domain. I'd be Heroism for the evangelist and Ash for the theologian.


Okay. Finally settled on a build. I'm going to be playing a very blasty human sorcerer/cleric of Saranrae. Details to follow.


Male Tiefling (Qlippoth spawn) Oracle Level 4 /Bloodrager Level 1 | 23/43 hp | AC: 20(Shield spell / 24) / T: 11 / FF: 19 (23) | Uncanny Dodge / Resist: 5 Cold,Fire, Electricity | Fort: +6, Ref: +2, Will: +3 | CMB: +8, CMD: 19| Init: +5, Perception: +4, Darkvision

Neutral good for me as well, he is a student of Shalelu's.

Garidan is a guy, who has mostly been raised by elves...all of whom are women... one of whom was a paladin, so he's respectful just not very social and prone to shyness


Male Human Sorcerer 1 (crossblooded, tattooed sorcerer, wildblooded) - HP 7/7 ,- AC 14/T: 11/FF: 13 - F: +1 R: +1/ W: +3 - CMB: +0 - CMD: 11, Speed: 30, Init. +5, - Perception +3

Here's Tarondor's build. He's a sorcerer now, but at 2nd level will move into cleric.

As for who's going to be romantically linked to whom, I've shifted Raedwald's attentions from Ameiko to Shalelu, unless that's real problem for someone.

GM Mathpro, your requested information is all on the character's page.


M Aberration

My hunter is Greta, a female half-orc. She's not very romantic...not looking for a relationship since her brother passed. But if things went a certain way, she wouldn't oppose them, I suppose.

Silver Crusade

Male Human Mutation Warrior fighter level 7 | Initiative Hp | Fort. | Will | Reflex. | AC. | AC. FF | AC. TCH. / Perception +| Bombs

Ammon here.

This is my character, it should be mostly done like 95 percent. i still have to buy equipment and put some finishing touches but everything important is there


Male Human Sorcerer 1 (crossblooded, tattooed sorcerer, wildblooded) - HP 7/7 ,- AC 14/T: 11/FF: 13 - F: +1 R: +1/ W: +3 - CMB: +0 - CMD: 11, Speed: 30, Init. +5, - Perception +3

You alright with others looking at your background?

Silver Crusade

Male Human Mutation Warrior fighter level 7 | Initiative Hp | Fort. | Will | Reflex. | AC. | AC. FF | AC. TCH. / Perception +| Bombs

yea go ahead brah


Male Human Sorcerer 1 (crossblooded, tattooed sorcerer, wildblooded) - HP 7/7 ,- AC 14/T: 11/FF: 13 - F: +1 R: +1/ W: +3 - CMB: +0 - CMD: 11, Speed: 30, Init. +5, - Perception +3

We both have burn-y pasts.


Here I the 98% completed Garek. Sorry for the mess but I've had a busy day today and am travelling tomorrow so won't be able to do more on it. The mechanics is done, there are just a few points of backstory to finish up that I haven't decided on.

mechanics:

Garak
Human Samuri (sword saint) 1
Init +2
DEFENSE
AC: touch flat-footed (+ armor, + dex,)
HP: 11 (1d10+1)
Saves: Fort +3 ref +2 Will +0
Defensive abilities: resolve 1/day

OFFENSE
Speed: 30 ft
Melee: +5 katana
Ranged: +3 short bow, dagger
Special attacks: challenge 1/day, Iaijutsu strike
STATISTICS
STR: 16 DEX: 14 CON: 12 INT: 14 WIS: 11 CHA: 12
BAB +1 CMB +4 CMD 16
FEATS: Weapon focus (heavy blades), deft maneuvers,
SKILLS: knowledge local knowledge geography, diplomacy, survival, perception, bluff, craft (weapons)
Traits: foster child (+2 to one knowledge check (geography), CC), seeker (+1 perception CC)
Languages: common, Elven, +1
SQ: order (ronin)

Gear: 32 gold
Katana
short bow
2 daggers
Scale mail
Fighters kit (This kit includes a backpack, a bedroll, a belt pouch, a flint and steel, an iron pot, a mess kit, rope, soap, torches (10), trail rations (5 days), and a waterskin),


backstory:

What is the character’s hometown? Sand point
How long has he lived there? 28 years
Does he like it or want to get away or already miss it? Garek has always loved to listen to stories of far away lands and is eager to see some of them for himself.
Has he traveled much? Since he was brought to sandpoint when he was four he has never left.
How old is your character? 32
What would somebody see at first glance (i.e. height, weight, skin color, eye color, hair color, physique, race, and visible equipment)? Garek is a tall man standing in at 6’3” but is not a large man. He is a strong but it’s a wiry strength rather then a broad muscular structure. His hair is kept in a close cut very close but not quite all the way to a buzz. He carries a large sword that is not the usual make and style of swords but fashioned after the swords of the far east. He wears a small medallion around his wrist with the image of an eagle on one side and a fleur de lie on the other.
Does your character have any personality quirks (i.e. antisocial, arrogant, optimistic, paranoid)? Minor naivitae and trusting. He has heard a few too many tales of heroes who travel the world and always win.
Are your parents still alive? No they died in a fire when I was ten years old. Bandits had attacked our forge and taken my mother they killed my mother and then locked my father in the forge and burned it down. I was taken in by Koya and raised by here after that. (my father is alive but ran away)
Do you have any siblings?Have any of them died? No.
Is your character married? no
What is your character’s moral code? He believes in an eye for and eye but is also a helpful person and likes to help those around him.
How did your character get started in their chosen class? Garek Vowed to never be helpless in the face of combat again and took up training with the sword.
Does your character have any significant personal items? A small medallion that my mother gave me for my tenth birthday that has an eagle’s head on one side and a fleur de lie on the other.
Has your character ever served in the military? He served with the town watch for several years and learned how to be a soldier from them .
• Story seeker – ever since he came into the care of Koya she has told him stories of faraway places and fantastical monsters that were slain by great hero’s. Now his greatest wish is to be a part of those stories, to go out on grand adventures and see the faraway places that he grew up hearing about.
• Honor bound – growing under the tutelage of Koya he always lived a strict code of conduct. Show proper respect to those deserving. Do not take insults lying down. Be kind to those in need. Do not question the integrity of others unless given proof of dishonesty.
• Hunter – since losing his parents too bandits he has devoted a significant part of his time to putting and end to the practice of banditry. He has never been able to stomach letting a bandit escape when caught in the act.
• Independent – Garek does not take easily to requiring aid from others. He prefers to work things out on his own accomplish tasks by his own skills and talents. He accepts that he cannot do everything himself but he will attempt everything himself before even considering aid.
• humble – Garek knows enough to know that he does not know everything. While he has studied maps and local customs with his Koya knows that there is always more just beyond the edge of the map.
• Inquisitive – the teachings and tales of Koya, while excelent in teaching what she knew, were limited to what she knew. Garek is eager to discover new ideas and new things.
Goals
• I want to discover something that no one else has seen or understood before
• I want to help Koya fulfill her dreams of travelling the world
Secrets
• Known – I massacred the bandits who killed my parents
• Unknown – My father survived the fire the bandits set but ran away.
Compatriots
• Koya – Foster Mother since the age of ten. Confident in the matters of romance and information.
• Sandru – Foster brother/uncle. There is enough of an age gap that he would be doing things above me but he always treated me as a brother in our adventures when we were younger.
• Brentol Snow – A dwarf who came to sandpoint some years ago to help during a time of crisis. He became friends with garek and helped him to learn the weapons skills that he has now. It has always been a goal to one day be able to defeat bBrentol in a dual but that has not happened yet.
• Devon trist – A member of the watch who dislikes me for having had a tryst with a former flame of his. He always tries to make Garek look bad in his duties of being a watchmen to discredit his reputation as an upstanding member of the watch.

Memories
• When I finally tracked down the bandit gang that had killed my mother and father I killed them all with out mercy. It was then that I realized that revenge was meaningless. It didn’t help me at all. It didn’t bring them back and it didn’t make living without them any easier.


Melia Starvali wrote:
because several of those feats written I think would upset the balance, I think if you allow only the "pure" feat tax feats (combat expertise, Power attack/Parhna strike) it wouldn't upset it too much but once you go into everyone can use Powerful Maneuvers it gives you a ton of feats for next to nothing. not to mention there could be if you look at the other side enemy's that could build extreme strong that don't normally have the feats would need to change e.i you could take a common ogre that does not have power attack and then wham a lot more dmg in addition be able to take full advantage of bull rush due to size deadly aim with a rock, etc, this is simply some dialog, its your game, this is coming from another experience DM point of view.

I agree Melia and I will post which ones are getting fixed here in a min. Weapon Focus is in so that doesn't change any of the builds that have been approved already and I'll get the rest of the list up sometime...not sure when but I'll figure something out.


Just a reminder...posting is going to be spotty for the next week or so due to exams and I have homework due today that I didn't get done this weekend so I need to cram that in before work. Thankfully i don't start until 10:30 today which helps...but other than my initual block of posts responding to stuff I missed yesterday don't expect to see me on much.


Raedwald Ingorson wrote:

Here's Tarondor's build. He's a sorcerer now, but at 2nd level will move into cleric.

As for who's going to be romantically linked to whom, I've shifted Raedwald's attentions from Ameiko to Shalelu, unless that's real problem for someone.

GM Mathpro, your requested information is all on the character's page.

Thanks I'll read it over and if approaved and I have time I will throw up a game play thread for you to start posting in.


Raedwald I am going to be sending you a PM with some questions about your character that are best kept between you and I I think. Everything looks good from the precursery look and I'll get your game play intro up as soon as I finish a more in depth reading of your sheet and review the other 2 characters.


F Human 1st lvl Bard (Lotus Gisha) HP 10/10 | AC 14/12/12 | CMD 12 | Fort +1 Ref +4 Will +2 | Per +4 | Init +2

Mine will be completed so time today. mechanically I believe it is finished, but I wanted to see and read everyone else's characters. I wanted to fulfill a good role and good story. I might make some changes but it will be finished before I post anything.


Okay Melia.

That brings up a great point: Please do not post in the game play thread, when I get it up, until I approve your character.


Game play is up and Raedwald you're free to post in it as you see fit.

I will be putting individualized introductions to the adventure up for each player which will be spoilered. If you have the ability to separate player knowledge and character knowledge you can read the spoilers of the others but if you can not know something with out your character acting please hold off.

All posts should be made using [ spoiler] tags please until we get the group together.


Garidan Layafette your good to post in the game play thread when ready.


DM Mathpro wrote:
Just a reminder...posting is going to be spotty for the next week or so due to exams and I have homework due today that I didn't get done this weekend so I need to cram that in before work. Thankfully i don't start until 10:30 today which helps...but other than my initual block of posts responding to stuff I missed yesterday don't expect to see me on much.

That is quite alright with me, it gives me precious time to fill out Kayin's sheet.


Male Human Expert 1

I'm still working on gear and backstory (this week has been crazy, sorry), but hopefully I'll be done in the next day or so.


Male Human Warpriest of Desna 5 HP 45/45; AC 23/13/21; Saves +8/+3/+10; +10 Per, +4 Init; 5/5 Blessing, 5/7 Fervor, 6/6 Sacred Weapon, 5/5 Guided Star

Okay, Javell is done. I might do a bit more with his gear, but he's practically finished.


F Human 1st lvl Bard (Lotus Gisha) HP 10/10 | AC 14/12/12 | CMD 12 | Fort +1 Ref +4 Will +2 | Per +4 | Init +2

Melia is completed.


Male Human Warpriest of Desna 5 HP 45/45; AC 23/13/21; Saves +8/+3/+10; +10 Per, +4 Init; 5/5 Blessing, 5/7 Fervor, 6/6 Sacred Weapon, 5/5 Guided Star

Psst. I don't think the occult classes were allowed.


M Human Samuri 1

Here is my finally completed warrior, Garek Tin. all the stats and story points are in the alias.


Yes occult classes are not allowed sorry I didn't catch this earlier...


F Human 1st lvl Bard (Lotus Gisha) HP 10/10 | AC 14/12/12 | CMD 12 | Fort +1 Ref +4 Will +2 | Per +4 | Init +2

lol, that was my bad, I made last moment changes while I was Nyquiled up with the flu. ill have it ready today.


Male Human Sorcerer 1 (crossblooded, tattooed sorcerer, wildblooded) - HP 7/7 ,- AC 14/T: 11/FF: 13 - F: +1 R: +1/ W: +3 - CMB: +0 - CMD: 11, Speed: 30, Init. +5, - Perception +3

Picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue? :-)


F Human 1st lvl Bard (Lotus Gisha) HP 10/10 | AC 14/12/12 | CMD 12 | Fort +1 Ref +4 Will +2 | Per +4 | Init +2

Completed.


Male Human Warpriest of Desna 5 HP 45/45; AC 23/13/21; Saves +8/+3/+10; +10 Per, +4 Init; 5/5 Blessing, 5/7 Fervor, 6/6 Sacred Weapon, 5/5 Guided Star

DM? How's my character look?
Also, was Point-Blank Shot going to be a bonus feat for everyone/ not be needed as a prerequisite? If so, I'll grab a different feat instead.


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I will have my review of your characters up tomorrow...cramming for my exam tonight right now and don't have time to take a good look. Will also post in the game play thread tomorrow.


Apologies, but I'm going to have to bow out on this. I've been stuck with a persistent case of crud since the weekend. It's sapping the energy and creativity I need to get Kayin done, making Kayin's sheet and build a chore to be dreaded instead of fun to be anticipated, and utterly drained my enthusiasm for this AP.

Having my go-to reference site for my meticulously linked and referenced sheets--because I'm OCD like that--in the midst of a server move that turned everything to hash and confusion on my end isn't helping any.


Male Human Warpriest of Desna 5 HP 45/45; AC 23/13/21; Saves +8/+3/+10; +10 Per, +4 Init; 5/5 Blessing, 5/7 Fervor, 6/6 Sacred Weapon, 5/5 Guided Star

Sorry to see you go.


F Human 1st lvl Bard (Lotus Gisha) HP 10/10 | AC 14/12/12 | CMD 12 | Fort +1 Ref +4 Will +2 | Per +4 | Init +2

sorry Sammy. Good luck.


Male Human Sorcerer 1 (crossblooded, tattooed sorcerer, wildblooded) - HP 7/7 ,- AC 14/T: 11/FF: 13 - F: +1 R: +1/ W: +3 - CMB: +0 - CMD: 11, Speed: 30, Init. +5, - Perception +3

That's disappointing. Hope you feel better and get into another good game when you're ready. But better to drop now than when we're hip deep in bad guys.


M Aberration

Sorry to see you go Sam. :(


Female Half-orc Hunter 1

Greta's story is good, will add more tomorrow. I did not want anyone to think I have not been working.


Male Human Warpriest of Desna 5 HP 45/45; AC 23/13/21; Saves +8/+3/+10; +10 Per, +4 Init; 5/5 Blessing, 5/7 Fervor, 6/6 Sacred Weapon, 5/5 Guided Star

I finished gearing up Javell, so he's basically done, though, depending on which feats are altered/removed, I may need to make him more powerful.


Female Half-orc Hunter 1

I hope your exams went well, DM Mathpro.


Male Human Sorcerer 1 (crossblooded, tattooed sorcerer, wildblooded) - HP 7/7 ,- AC 14/T: 11/FF: 13 - F: +1 R: +1/ W: +3 - CMB: +0 - CMD: 11, Speed: 30, Init. +5, - Perception +3

What's our status, GM?


Female Half-orc Hunter 1

DM Mathpro is sitting a room somewhere muttering "...seven ATE nine.....seven ATE nine!"

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