Deanoth
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I received my Tomes in the mail today. The Pathfinder version had slightly bent corners, nothing worse than you would get from accidentally dropping it on the floor a few times. The Swords & Wizardry version, however, was in mint condition. It also had Bill Webb's signature (perhaps he grabbed the wrong volume, at any rate, I'm fine with the S&W version being the signed copy).!! Your Pathfinder version was supposed to have a signature on it as well! I apologize for either packing the wrong book or allowing it to be packed without Bill's Signature.
Wait so ALL of the Limited Edition ones are actually signed then?? Including the Paizo Limited Edition copies too?
bigkilla
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Wait so ALL of the Limited Edition ones are actually signed then?? Including the Pathfinder Limited Edition copies too?I received my Tomes in the mail today. The Pathfinder version had slightly bent corners, nothing worse than you would get from accidentally dropping it on the floor a few times. The Swords & Wizardry version, however, was in mint condition. It also had Bill Webb's signature (perhaps he grabbed the wrong volume, at any rate, I'm fine with the S&W version being the signed copy).!! Your Pathfinder version was supposed to have a signature on it as well! I apologize for either packing the wrong book or allowing it to be packed without Bill's Signature.
If you ordered it through Frog God Games,If you ordered it through Paizo then no.
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If you ordered it through Frog God Games,If you ordered it through Paizo then no.Wait so ALL of the Limited Edition ones are actually signed then?? Including the Pathfinder Limited Edition copies too?I received my Tomes in the mail today. The Pathfinder version had slightly bent corners, nothing worse than you would get from accidentally dropping it on the floor a few times. The Swords & Wizardry version, however, was in mint condition. It also had Bill Webb's signature (perhaps he grabbed the wrong volume, at any rate, I'm fine with the S&W version being the signed copy).!! Your Pathfinder version was supposed to have a signature on it as well! I apologize for either packing the wrong book or allowing it to be packed without Bill's Signature.
Only the ones pre-ordered directly from Frog God Games were signed by Bill.
Charles Scholz
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Got mine last week. It is AWESOME. Its 40 pages less than The World's Largens Dungeon, but about 1/2 inch thicker. All evil GM badness. I love it.
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I'm in love with this book. No, really - I am.
There is something that made me wonder though; if the Tome of Horrors can summon any creature in the book, then how can the book itself be a CR20 creature? I mean, considering it can summon Lucifer himself, a CR39 creature?
Am I silly for thinking about stuff like this?
| Matthew Morris RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8 |
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Only the ones pre-ordered directly from Frog God Games were signed by Bill.
Ah ha! The real reason for a second print run...
| leem |
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I'm in love with this book. No, really - I am.
There is something that made me wonder though; if the Tome of Horrors can summon any creature in the book, then how can the book itself be a CR20 creature? I mean, considering it can summon Lucifer himself, a CR39 creature?
Am I silly for thinking about stuff like this?
The real question is whether the Tome of Horrors can summon itself...
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Charles Scholz
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I'm in love with this book. No, really - I am.
There is something that made me wonder though; if the Tome of Horrors can summon any creature in the book, then how can the book itself be a CR20 creature? I mean, considering it can summon Lucifer himself, a CR39 creature?
Am I silly for thinking about stuff like this?
A higher level Demon can resist the summoning. I don't think Lucifer would stoop so low as to be someone's minion. Also, Lucifers stats are for when he is in Infernus. I don't think he is that powerful outside his own realm yet.
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A higher level Demon can resist the summoning. I don't think Lucifer would stoop so low as to be someone's minion. Also, Lucifers stats are for when he is in Infernus. I don't think he is that powerful outside his own realm yet.I'm in love with this book. No, really - I am.
There is something that made me wonder though; if the Tome of Horrors can summon any creature in the book, then how can the book itself be a CR20 creature? I mean, considering it can summon Lucifer himself, a CR39 creature?
Am I silly for thinking about stuff like this?
Allright, so make it a shipbreaker sea serpent then, it's CR25 ;)
| gbonehead |
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Allright, so make it a shipbreaker sea serpent then, it's CR25 ;)A higher level Demon can resist the summoning. I don't think Lucifer would stoop so low as to be someone's minion. Also, Lucifers stats are for when he is in Infernus. I don't think he is that powerful outside his own realm yet.I'm in love with this book. No, really - I am.
There is something that made me wonder though; if the Tome of Horrors can summon any creature in the book, then how can the book itself be a CR20 creature? I mean, considering it can summon Lucifer himself, a CR39 creature?
Am I silly for thinking about stuff like this?
That's why every Tome of Horrors is stored in a little chest holding a permanent anti-magic field.
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Charles Scholz
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That's why every Tome of Horrors is stored in a little chest holding a permanent anti-magic field.
LOL
Kthulhu
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The real question is whether the Tome of Horrors can summon itself...I'm in love with this book. No, really - I am.
There is something that made me wonder though; if the Tome of Horrors can summon any creature in the book, then how can the book itself be a CR20 creature? I mean, considering it can summon Lucifer himself, a CR39 creature?
Am I silly for thinking about stuff like this?
Well, it is within it's own pages...
Not so much summoning itself so much as summoning another copy.
Each of which then summons Lucifer!
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Will there be a point where Paizo has pulled enough monsters for the Bestiaries that this won't be as special anymore?
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Kthulhu
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Doubtful. There's over 700 monsters in this book, and Paizo has only pulled a couple dozen of them so far. So unless the next three Pathfinder Bestiaries largely concentrate on being Tome of Horrors Redux, I really doubt it.
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Shem
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After this book I doubt that Paizo will redo any of these monsters unless they really have a different take on them. Paizo has used many monsters from the original ToH books in their adventure paths and they will likely continue to do so with the Pathfinder version of this book. I am sure that their efforts in the future will go to creating new monsters.
Also, I hope they continue to put the monsters from the adventure paths and modules into the Bestiaries.
They could do one a year and have a hard time catching up at this point.
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All of the Paizo developers will have The Tome of Horrors Complete as a resource book. There is no longer a need for them to convert any more of these creatures.
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For those who missed it in the olden days: CONVERSION DEATH MATCH!
An awesome show/thread pitting the ToH converted monsters against official WoTc conversions...
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Kthulhu
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I think we need a CONVERSION DEATH MATCH: PATHFINDER EDITION!!!
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The original limited Tome of Horrors Complete (PFRPG) is still available at Noble Knight Games here. And let me say that NK has some very reasonable international postage options! (You get no pdf there though...)
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Charles Scholz
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Has anyone else had any problems with the PDF being so massive it causes Adobe Reader to stall almost every time you go to the next page.
I don't have any problems with other near 800 page PDF documents I have.
My World's Largest City has 768 pages including color pictures and maps but is only 145MB, while TOHC is 818 pages is 359MB and the pictures are mostly line drawings.
| Chuck Wright Layout and Design, Frog God Games |
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Charles - I've optimized the PDF from FGG to a much smaller file size (with hints from the Paizo staff) and sent that on to Bill Webb. I don't know if he has been able to upload the smaller file (which is about 100MB to our download service.
The first time through I just didn't know what file size the picture files should have been reduced to. And as a side note - Grayscale art comes in at the same size as color art, all other things being equal.
