Eidolons and Class DC


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Do eidolons have a Class DC? If so, do they have their own, separate from the Summoner's, or do the two share the one Class DC?


There's nothing in the pdf indicating they have a class DC, the only reference in the summoner section is to the summoner himself getting trained at level 1.


Similarly, what's the DC of an Eidelon's spells?
I thought they used to use the same as the Summoner's, and still think they use the same proficiency, but does Charisma variance change it?
(I might be blind because I remember finding this answer before...or maybe it's my memory. :P)

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Castilliano wrote:

Similarly, what's the DC of an Eidelon's spells?

I thought they used to use the same as the Summoner's, and still think they use the same proficiency, but does Charisma variance change it?
(I might be blind because I remember finding this answer before...or maybe it's my memory. :P)

"An eidolon normally can't Cast a Spell; however, some feats or abilities can grant them this capability. An eidolon that has spells also gains the Cast a Spell activity. They don't have their own spell DC or spell attack modifier; if they need to Cast a Spell, they use your spell DC and spell attack modifier. If your eidolon has focus spells, those spells count toward your focus pool maximum and your eidolon uses your Focus Points to cast them. Your eidolon can't Refocus. Your eidolon can cast only spells they gain from their own abilities. They can't cast your spells, nor can you cast spells they have."


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This ^^

And for abilities that are not spellcasting that the Eidolon can do, such as Constricting Hold, the ability is referencing the Summoner's Class DC.

If there are any that do reference the Eidolon's Class DC, that should probably be brought up in an errata thread.


Finoan wrote:

This ^^

And for abilities that are not spellcasting that the Eidolon can do, such as Constricting Hold, the ability is referencing the Summoner's Class DC.

If there are any that do reference the Eidolon's Class DC, that should probably be brought up in an errata thread.

While that's the martial type of ability that usually references Class DC, it refers to Spell DC instead (at least in the link) because the Summoner's Class DC doesn't advance. (And because of that Class DC should only come up if they gain an ability outside the class, which they'd become poor at.)


Fair.

Though I think the point still stands that if you run across an ability that says the Eidolon should be using its own Class DC or its own Spell DC that it needs to be brought up for errata review.

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