Hello, I have question about dedication obtained from heritage, ancestry feat and class and other archetype.
Ancient elf heritage gives multiclass dedication.
But the character does not have to take the other feats for its archetype, is it right ?
If the character begins to take an other feat from its archetype, the character does not to take an other feat to achieve the archetype (3 feats), is it right ?
Same questions for multitalented (ancestry feat from human) and multiclass archetype that has a basic, expert, and master spellcasting feat from the eldritch trickster from racket for the rogue.
Social Purview from the archetype vigilante gives archetype's dedication feat. Same question.
Cavalier with pledge can take a second dedication feat closely tied to that cause even if you haven’t taken two additional cavalier feats.
But the character must to complete the second archetype, is it right ?
Same thing with Magaambyan Attendant that permit to take Halcyon Speaker Dedication, but the second archetype must to complete the second archetype, and also for the other archetypes that permit to obtain a second archeytpe ?
Thanks for your future answer.
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Does an ancient elf have to take other feats from their archetype? No, you can reach level 20 and still just have the dedication. But it has no rules text overiding the usual rules for dedications, so you must take two more feats from your multiclass archetype before taking another dedication barring archetypes that exempt that (e.g. An Ancient Elf who takes Mystic Dedication can take Xenodruid at level 4. That's the only archetype I can think of off the top of my head that lets you ignore dedication rules from a multiclass archetype).
Multitalented alloallows you to take a multiclass dedication feat even if you normally couldn't. However, you still need to take two more feats from each dedication you have before you take another one. So an Eldritch trickster (Sorcerer) who uses Multitalented to get Oracle dedication needs two more sorcerer feats and two more oracle feats if they want to take, say, Time Mage Dedication next.
Cavalier and Vigilante's Social Purview are similar. Halycon Speaker and Magaambyan Attendent follow roughly the same rules.
Agreed. These ways of getting Dedication feats don't override the rules about needing to pay off those Dedications given before taking more Archetype Dedication feats.
So yes, you can use Human: Multitalented to get a Dedication feat that you otherwise wouldn't qualify for. And you could still take Archetype feats for Archetypes that you already have the Dedication feat for. But you couldn't take another Dedication feat until you have gotten the other required Archetype feats from the Archetype you gained from Multitalented.
Multitalented is pretty much the only start new dedication free card, and it doesn’t even take a class feat. What you’re going to deploy with and when in your feat sequencing you’re going to use it should be at least a secondary consideration for every character you make, often a primary consideration.
Few characters are complete without a multitalented somewhere.
Does Cavalier with pledge give an other dedication at the same level that cavalier dedication ? Or does it permit to take the other dedication feat at the following available class feat ?
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Does Cavalier with pledge give an other dedication at the same level that cavalier dedication ? Or does it permit to take the other dedication feat at the following available class feat ?
"Special If you have pledged yourself to a cause, you can take a second dedication feat closely tied to that cause even if you haven’t taken two additional cavalier feats."
"Can take" is pretty clear. You can take it; you don't get it for free.