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Pathfinder Second Edition General Discussion


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Why am I being charged for this in my subscription? We get the updated PDF for free, don't we?


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It's part of the standard rulebook subscription, it needed to be skipped if it was unwanted. Presumably something due to the new store.


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Thomas Keller wrote:
Why am I being charged for this in my subscription? We get the updated PDF for free, don't we?

You're being charged for a whole new book, not a PDF, because for some insane reason remaster-reprints and single-book AP reprints are set up as opt-out instead of opt-in on subscriptions. You have to use the Skip Order thing on subscriptions for all of that.

If you think that change from the way they used to do it is unacceptable, you aren't wrong.


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HammerJack wrote:
Thomas Keller wrote:
Why am I being charged for this in my subscription? We get the updated PDF for free, don't we?

You're being charged for a whole new book, not a PDF, because for some insane reason remaster-reprints and single-book AP reprints are set up as opt-out instead of opt-in on subscriptions. You have to use the Skip Order thing on subscriptions for all of that.

If you think that change from the way they used to do it is unacceptable, you aren't wrong.

Do they still give the updated PDF for free?


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Yes, they have stated that the updated PDF will be given for free on the street date.


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Is the change to unleash psyche just making the wording for it match something like potent sorcery, and that it only effects the initial "blast" damage of the spell? Or does the wording stay mostly the same but no longer exclude spells with durations?


Unicore wrote:
Is the change to unleash psyche just making the wording for it match something like potent sorcery, and that it only effects the initial "blast" damage of the spell? Or does the wording stay mostly the same but no longer exclude spells with durations?

To quote the book:

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When you cast a damaging spell using your psychic spellcasting, you gain a status bonus to its damage equal to double the spell’s rank. This applies only to the initial damage the spell deals when cast, and an individual creature takes this damage only once per spell, even if the spell would damage that creature multiple times.


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So the same as sorcerous potency then. That is not really a buff to the ability then beyond making it minimally functional with spells it was supposed to work with from the beginning. It really looks like the psychic is getting nothing at all to fill in it's previous niche of being able to cast more focus spells per encounters throughout the day than other casters. Maybe enough players allowed refocusing to regain all their focus points with enough 10 minute breaks that it never felt like that was a niche of the class, but it really was the unique thing about the class pre-remaster. That is disappointing.


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I don't think it has a niche anymore. It's just like a worse sorc mostly unfortunately...


Psychic has exactly one maybe worthwhile build. Shatter mind spam. Casting amp shatter mind 3+ times per fight for xd10 AoEs plus the occasional amp message and gathered lore Aid. It's a miniscule niche predicated on a damage type that isn't the most reliable, but it exists. Not that I'll ever play it outside of a one shot or something.


gesalt wrote:
Psychic has exactly one maybe worthwhile build. Shatter mind spam. Casting amp shatter mind 3+ times per fight for xd10 AoEs plus the occasional amp message and gathered lore Aid. It's a miniscule niche predicated on a damage type that isn't the most reliable, but it exists. Not that I'll ever play it outside of a one shot or something.

even that is not like completely unique.

a dragon sorc spammin dragon breath is not that different. 3d10+1d10/rank vs 5d6+2d6/rank is actually less damage for the psychic (outside of Unleash). and then the sorc can weave in actual spells in his rotations without running out.

ofc, there are some differences, like shatter only hitting enemies and being bigger, but in gameplay it's not really that different...


shroudb wrote:
gesalt wrote:
Psychic has exactly one maybe worthwhile build. Shatter mind spam. Casting amp shatter mind 3+ times per fight for xd10 AoEs plus the occasional amp message and gathered lore Aid. It's a miniscule niche predicated on a damage type that isn't the most reliable, but it exists. Not that I'll ever play it outside of a one shot or something.

even that is not like completely unique.

a dragon sorc spammin dragon breath is not that different. 3d10+1d10/rank vs 5d6+2d6/rank is actually less damage for the psychic (outside of Unleash). and then the sorc can weave in actual spells in his rotations without running out.

ofc, there are some differences, like shatter only hitting enemies and being bigger, but in gameplay it's not really that different...

I did say the niche was miniscule

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