Eager Assistant and multiple aids with one preparation action


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Eager Assistant: At the start of your turn, you gain one additional reaction, which you can use only to Aid.

Aid Trigger: An ally is about to use an action that requires a skill check or attack roll.

Aid Requirement: The ally is willing to accept your aid, and you have prepared to help (see below).

See Below: To use this reaction, you must first prepare to help, usually by using an action during your turn. You must explain to the GM exactly how you're trying to help, and they determine whether you can Aid your ally.

I don't see whether this requires you to use two Prepare to Aid actions on your turn in order to Aid an ally twice with your two reactions. Thoughts?

Envoy's Alliance

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I think it would depend on how you're preparing to aid. is this a skill feat, General feat, Class feat, or Ancestry feat? Context is important.


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I can’t imagine how it wouldn’t require two actions. Each action is tied to a specific form of prep for a specific ally. You’re either aiding two different things on one ally, requiring two different approaches to prep, or two different preps towards different allies.

But this feat is obviously meant to preserve your regular combat reaction, not aid twice, which is going to be more powerful anyway.


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Zoken44 wrote:
I think it would depend on how you're preparing to aid. is this a skill feat, General feat, Class feat, or Ancestry feat? Context is important.

It's a Shirren ancestry feat at 5th level!

Xenocrat wrote:
Each action is tied to a specific form of prep for a specific ally. You’re either aiding two different things on one ally, requiring two different approaches to prep, or two different preps towards different allies.

I used it to spit distracting acid to aid my group's operative's ranged attacks against a single enemy. They shot twice, I aided twice, then I thought "That was very good..."


I agree that the intent seems to be allowing for Aid while leaving your reaction open for combat stuff. I guess there's nothing STOPPING you from uing Aid twice in one turn on different targets. It doesn't seem like an OP strategy, but I like the fantasy of being extra helpful.

However, I feel like using Aid twice on the same enemy for the same ally... Something about that just feels unintended. I feel like that's the only situation where I'd rule against being able to do it as a DM.

Envoy's Alliance

Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber

So I would imagine if the two allies are working on the same thing, like attacking the same creature, you could take one action to aid by saying you are attempting to distract the creature.


Keep in mind that repeating the same action to aid against the same target would probably increase the Aid DC.

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Repetition: Aiding the same creature multiple times can have diminishing returns. In particular, if you try to repeatedly Aid attacks or skill checks against a creature, the GM will usually increase the DC each time as your foe gets more savvy.

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