Hello brothers and sisters of Golarion I come with questions seeking answers.
With the Razmiran Priest Archetype it allows you to take the Cleric Dedication with the condition you must choose Razmir as your deity. As Razmir is not an actual deity and all your 'divine' magic is actually occult magic disguised as 'divine' magic does that mean you can just ignore the Edicts and Anathema in his deity stat block and there is no mechanical backlash?
I mean it's not like he can take away your 'divine' magic.
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I'm confused. I don't think there is a coherent, logical, rules argument here.
Mechanically, Razmir is listed as a Deity. As is the Green Faith, Shoanti Animism, the Prophecies of Kalistrade, and even Atheism.
No, you don't get to mechanically pick Razmir as your Deity and then ignore the Edicts and Anathema that it requires because 'it isn't actually a deity'. If the Deity is not supposed to have Edicts and Anathema, then it will list that in the stat block, like Shoanti Animism and Atheism do.
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There are definitely rules that should be followed by the Razmiran priesthood. That’s what makes Razmir’s fanatics so frightening: they wholeheartedly believe his big lie, consciously or not. That is what the game rules reflect: the fanaticism of belief and the rules of one man/god. People who don’t believe, or fall away from that path will likely turn away from those beliefs and not want to associate with them any longer - thereby ‘losing access’ to that type of power. Them’s the rules, now you come up with the roleplaying to make that character believable and fun for everyone at the table!
Thanks for the responses, I thought there might have been a loophole because of the lore surrounding Razmir himself.
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As far as PF2 is concerned, his entry actually reads like he is a full deity.
Now, lore wise I'm pretty confident that he never actually ascended despite what this entry says. Which is to say he isn't a true god, but he might be a mythic creature capable of granting spells. It's honestly very vague about how this works in PF2.
In PF1 it was clear that your razmiran priest wasn't actually a cleric and could only emulate divine spells through items. In PF2 they've actually allowed you to be a cleric, so somehow Razmir's priestly followers are receiving power, although it is clearly not divine power but occult.
How does that work? No one really knows.