Can I just leave the CR at 30 even if the rules say it should be higher?

[Maniacwyrm]

I wanna make a mythic Kaiju with some modifications made to it. It’s not really for a game since it’s definitely a run the heck away moment not really a fight moment. Plus its focus will be on other things. But technically, when I am adding MRs to a creature it’s CR should go up but as we know most kaiju are pretty close to max CR already so it could I just leave the CR at 30? As for why I am making it, I really like burning Godzilla and I wanna make something like that for fun. And in burning form Godzilla easily washes gidorah so it should be a pretty significant power boost which mythic and the other template I am slapping on him will be.

Anyways, tldr, can I just leave this mythic kaiju’s CR at 30? It shouldn’t matter in game since they probably will not fight it and definitely will not kill it but just curious

[Valandil Ancalime]

Maniacwyrm wrote:

since it’s definitely a run the heck away moment not really a fight moment

Famous last words. PCs are notorious for doing what they aren't supposed to do, like fight a kaiju. I am curious, what level will the pc's be and what is the long term plan for the kaiju?

[Maniacwyrm]

Valandil Ancalime wrote:

Maniacwyrm wrote:

since it’s definitely a run the heck away moment not really a fight moment

Famous last words. PCs are notorious for doing what they aren't supposed to do, like fight a kaiju. I am curious, what level will the pc's be and what is the long term plan for the kaiju?

When they first see it unmodified? Like level 12/MR4 but it will be fighting another Kaiju and winning. Later in the campaign it will be like Godzilla king of the monsters which if you know the movie you will know why I need the modified version. By then the players should have 9th level spells I think. Basically if you have watched any Godzilla as a protector movie, you have a rough idea for what will be happening. Rough story beats of the legendary Godzilla movies with like some stuff from that silly Godzilla tv series where a baby zilla imprinted in a scientist

[Azothath]

If you are the GM and the PC's experience is story based, Yes (exact CRs are not needed). This includes if they fight the outcome is predetermined. You really need 3+ story resolutions and decent foreshadowing. I would use this sparingly.

If you're the GM and the experience comes from a martial challenge, No, as experience is derived from CR.

If you are a Player, No. You need an adjusted CR.

[Maniacwyrm]

Azothath wrote:

If you are the GM and the PC's experience is story based, Yes (exact CRs are not needed). This includes if they fight the outcome is predetermined. You really need 3+ story resolutions and decent foreshadowing. I would use this sparingly.

If you're the GM and the experience comes from a martial challenge, No, as experience is derived from CR.

If you are a Player, No. You need an adjusted CR.

I see alright that answers my question. It’s not so much that the outcome is predetermined but they should be fighting with the modified Kaiju instead of against it since I am running a Godzilla campaign and most Godzilla shows involve him as a good guy

[doc chaos]

There's a Godzilla pathfinder fansite with a lot of Kaiju! Most CRs are 37 I think. The Kaijus in this setting can grant divine spells and have domains. They're basically gods!
Put in d20 Toho kingdom.

[Maniacwyrm]

doc chaos wrote:

There's a Godzilla pathfinder fansite with a lot of Kaiju! Most CRs are 37 I think. The Kaijus in this setting can grant divine spells and have domains. They're basically gods!

Put in d20 Toho kingdom.

I just looked them up their awesome! Thanks for telling me about them, maybe I should just use the Godzilla they have there if I haven’t finished my own version when the game comes.

[Tom Sampson]

Maniacwyrm wrote:

Valandil Ancalime wrote:

Maniacwyrm wrote:

since it’s definitely a run the heck away moment not really a fight moment

Famous last words. PCs are notorious for doing what they aren't supposed to do, like fight a kaiju. I am curious, what level will the pc's be and what is the long term plan for the kaiju?

When they first see it unmodified? Like level 12/MR4 but it will be fighting another Kaiju and winning. Later in the campaign it will be like Godzilla king of the monsters which if you know the movie you will know why I need the modified version. By then the players should have 9th level spells I think. Basically if you have watched any Godzilla as a protector movie, you have a rough idea for what will be happening. Rough story beats of the legendary Godzilla movies with like some stuff from that silly Godzilla tv series where a baby zilla imprinted in a scientist

You may wish to add a competent or otherwise respected tag-along/sidekick NPC to the players for the encounter whose job it is to remind the party to RUN before they get themselves killed.

[Maniacwyrm]

Tom Sampson wrote:

Maniacwyrm wrote:

Valandil Ancalime wrote:

Maniacwyrm wrote:

since it’s definitely a run the heck away moment not really a fight moment

Famous last words. PCs are notorious for doing what they aren't supposed to do, like fight a kaiju. I am curious, what level will the pc's be and what is the long term plan for the kaiju?

When they first see it unmodified? Like level 12/MR4 but it will be fighting another Kaiju and winning. Later in the campaign it will be like Godzilla king of the monsters which if you know the movie you will know why I need the modified version. By then the players should have 9th level spells I think. Basically if you have watched any Godzilla as a protector movie, you have a rough idea for what will be happening. Rough story beats of the legendary Godzilla movies with like some stuff from that silly Godzilla tv series where a baby zilla imprinted in a scientist

You may wish to add a competent or otherwise respected tag-along/sidekick NPC to the players for the encounter whose job it is to remind the party to RUN before they get themselves killed.

Yeah I probably have to do that just in case

[Unbegreiflich]

OMG! They killed Kenny!