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Let’s say there a dragon with class levels in monk.
Let’s also say the dragon attacks with its flurry of blows.
Since it’s making attacks with its flurry of blows (unarmed strikes using its claws, “knees,” “elbows,” and “feet”), does it also get any of its natural attacks along with its flurry? I can see not getting wing attacks, its crushing attack, and even its tail slap. Those could conceivably be considered to be unarmed strikes.
What about a bite attack? That’s definitely not an unarmed strike, so its technically not part of its flurry of blows. Regardless, could a monk with a bite attack still bite even if it was performing a flurry of blows?
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The feat Feral Combat Training allows you to use the chosen natural weapon with flurry of blows. So, if the GM wants the dragon to be able to use bite with flurry of blows this feat would allow it.
The limit on natural attacks is less about realism and more about power limiting. You don't want monks double-dipping on a bunch of flurry attacks and a bunch of natural weapons all benefitting from a single amulet of mighty fists.
Though, it would be possible to pull off something similar with a two weapon fighting character focused on unarmed attacks. For instance, the fighter has a natural weapons weapon group that also applies to unarmed strike. You could also then choose the weapon specialist option of advanced weapon training to double dip your unarmed strike feats for working on natural attacks.
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The feat Feral Combat Training allows you to use the chosen natural weapon with flurry of blows. So, if the GM wants the dragon to be able to use bite with flurry of blows this feat would allow it.
Nice. Thanks!
A feat for a bite attack...might be worth it especially if the dragon in question has a pretty high strength.
It's actually two feats. You also need weapon focus bite. The dragon might already have it, but not all do.
It's actually two feats. You also need weapon focus bite.Thanks for pointing that out.
Two feats is not worth one bite attack to me.
Why not? It means that you can make a full attack with a weapon that gets extra reach and 1.5 str to damage. ALL of your flurry attacks can be with the bite.
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A monk applies his full Strength bonus to his damage rolls for all successful attacks made with flurry of blows, whether the attacks are made with an off-hand or with a weapon wielded in both hands.
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A monk applies his full Strength bonus to his damage rolls for all successful attacks made with flurry of blows, whether the attacks are made with an off-hand or with a weapon wielded in both hands.
So the bite attack is only an additional Unarmed Strike attack with normal strength bonus damage.
It's REALLY not worth two feats.
The feat does not give extra attacks but would allow you to use the bite damage on all your attacks. That would also mean any abilities that only work with bite (like weapon focus) are also applied. The damage bonus from STR would be x1 mot x1.5 but would benefit from any extra reach.
So, what the two feats actually do is to give you a +1 to hit on all the attacks and use the bite damage in place of the monk’s unarmed damage. What it allows you to do is to gain your iterative attacks plus the extra attacks from flurry using the bite damage. The unchained monk works better for this due to the improvement of the flurry of blows. For example, an adult blue dragon with one level of unchained monk would gain 5 attacks at +24/+24/+19/+14/+9 doing 2d8+8 damage. His flurry of blows would normally be 5 attacks at +23/+23/+18/+14/+8 doing 2d6+8 damage.
For the most part the dragon is going to be better off using his normal natural weapons, but in some cases the on a low HD dragon it be worth it.
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The feat does not give extra attacks but would allow you to use the bite damage on all your attacks. That would also mean any abilities that only work with bite (like weapon focus) are also applied. The damage bonus from STR would be x1 mot x1.5 but would benefit from any extra reach.
Reach and the fact that bites do piercing, slashing, and bludgeoning damage.
If the Dragon monk took Weapon Focus (Bite), Feral Combat Training, was a Level 20 Unchained Monk, and took the Old Master capstone, that would give it 7 attacks with its Bite and a straight STR bonus to damage. All attacks would also bypass Slashing, Piercing, and Bludgeoning DR. There would also be better reach with bite attacks.
Have I covered it all?