From the description in Player Core 2, it says they resemble their non-vampire parent's ancestry, but with pale eyes. Since elves don't have visible pupils, an elf dhampir would appear to have solid white eyes.
I think you meant "irises"rather than "pupils."
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From the description in Player Core 2, it says they resemble their non-vampire parent's ancestry, but with pale eyes. Since elves don't have visible pupils, an elf dhampir would appear to have solid white eyes.I think you meant "irises"rather than "pupils."
Nope. I meant irises. The iris is the colorful part of the eye, and the pupil is the dark circle at the center. The sclera is the "white of the eye." In elves, the only part that's visible from afar is the colorful part—the iris.
A close up look of an elf eye would likely show more details about the pupil and sclera and iris, and in fact an elf eye likely has an entirely different biology that would require different words for the parts of the eye... but for our art purposes, from the distance we illustrate elf faces, it's all more or less one color.
Nope. I meant irises.From the description in Player Core 2, it says they resemble their non-vampire parent's ancestry, but with pale eyes. Since elves don't have visible pupils, an elf dhampir would appear to have solid white eyes.I think you meant "irises"rather than "pupils."
I'm confused by the "nope." If you meant to use "irises" then you are agreeing with me that you intended to use the term "irises" rather than "pupils," but your "nope" seems to be indicating disagreement.
The iris is the colorful part of the eye, and the pupil is the dark circle at the center. The sclera is the "white of the eye." In elves, the only part that's visible from afar is the colorful part—the iris.
Yes, I'm well aware of the parts of the human eye, but according to Player Core, the colorful portion that makes up the entire visible portion of an Elven eye is the pupils — not the iris.
Their eyes are wide and rounded, featuring large and often vibrantly colored pupils that make up the entire visible portion of the eye.
Thus Elves have huge, visible (and possibly colorful) pupils, but they don't have visible irises or visible sclera (or whatever analogies to those structures that Elven eyes might have).
So your statement that
...elves don't have visible pupils...
would seem to be incorrect.
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Ah. I wasn't aware that we'd made that sort of semantic change to the language of elf eyes in the core rulebook. Which means I am incorrect there, I guess, even though I personally feel it makes more sense for the iris to be the colorful part rather than the pupil... but (shrug).
I still say dhampir elf eyes are all white.
Just give them goat eyes.
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Yes, I'm well aware of the parts of the human eye, but according to Player Core, the colorful portion that makes up the entire visible portion of an Elven eye is the pupils — not the iris.
Their eyes are wide and rounded, featuring large and often vibrantly colored pupils that make up the entire visible portion of the eye.Thus Elves have huge, visible (and possibly colorful) pupils, but they don't have visible irises or visible sclera (or whatever analogies to those structures that Elven eyes might have).
While that may be what Player Core says, it makes no sense. A pupil is a hole for light to pass through. It cannot, by definition, have a color. Human pupils only appear black because nearly all of the light that passes through them is absorbed by tissues inside the eye. And if elven eyes were mostly pupil, they would look much different (even if there was some explanation for their apparent color).
Like James said:
an elf eye likely has an entirely different biology that would require different words for the parts of the eye
In other words, the issue only arises if we insist on discussing elven eyes in terms of human eyes. In the absence of further information about how elven eyes work, we can't really say which part of a human eye is most analogous to the visible portion of an elven eye. But given the information we have, the pupil is pretty far down on the list of plausible candidates. Again, I understand that's what the book says. But if it said up was down, I would have no problem saying that the book was in error. Same thing here.
I'm not sure it really matters that much whether it's the pupil or the iris? It's the visible part of a fantasy alien creature's eye one way or the other. I know spec fic fans are often deeply nerdy and particular about details (in a lot of good ways!) but this nit may not be all that valuable to pick.