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What is the point of providing a digital chronicle sheet with the scenario PDF if protections prevent me from saving it as an editable document in which to send to my players?
I can't extract the page, print it as a PDF, fill it out, or anything! Even the product page for the scenario doesn't have it available for download!
Short of printing a hard copy and mailing it to my players all across THE WORLD, or taking a screenshot and Photoshopping it, what alternatives are there?
What on Earth and Golarion is the point of a digital form that is absolutely impossible to interact with digitally???
I am totally confused.
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I have no trouble "printing" the chronicle as a new 1 page pdf and interacting with it or just editing it as is.
I suspect the issue is with the software you're attempting to use.
rpgchronicles.net will also generate chronicles for you. You can provide players with a link and have them fill in their tracking info there, or you can collect and put it all in yourself and then distribute the chronicle sheets. Your players don't have to interact with it at all.
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I have no trouble "printing" the chronicle as a new 1 page pdf and interacting with it or just editing it as is.
I suspect the issue is with the software you're attempting to use.
rpgchronicles.net will also generate chronicles for you. You can provide players with a link and have them fill in their tracking info there, or you can collect and put it all in yourself and then distribute the chronicle sheets. Your players don't have to interact with it at all.
Thanks, but I'm not paying a subscription to access something that should be given freely along with the scenario I've already paid for.
Furthermore, after having my players jump through numerous hoops of setting up in Forge, Foundry, AND Pathfinder Society, if I ask them to jump through even more hoops of RPGChronicles, they're likely to mutiny. It's all too much for something that should have been simple to begin with.
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Furthermore, after having my players jump through numerous hoops of setting up in Forge, Foundry, AND Pathfinder Society, if I ask them to jump through even more hoops of RPGChronicles, they're likely to mutiny. It's all too much for something that should have been simple to begin with.
As I said, your players never have to interact with RPG chronicles. Did you not bother to read my whole post?
Also I've made hundreds of chronicle sheets there, and have never paid them any money or felt any need to do so.
I see you also ignored my other solution. Do you need help using whatever software you're trying to manipulate the PDFs with, I suspect there are forums/sources of tech support for whatever software you're trying to use.
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I have no trouble "printing" the chronicle as a new 1 page pdf and interacting with it or just editing it as is.
I suspect the issue is with the software you're attempting to use.
rpgchronicles.net will also generate chronicles for you. You can provide players with a link and have them fill in their tracking info there, or you can collect and put it all in yourself and then distribute the chronicle sheets. Your players don't have to interact with it at all.
Thanks, but I'm not paying a subscription to access something that should be given freely along with the scenario I've already paid for.
Furthermore, after having my players jump through numerous hoops of setting up in Forge, Foundry, AND Pathfinder Society, if I ask them to jump through even more hoops of RPGChronicles, they're likely to mutiny. It's all too much for something that should have been simple to begin with.
RPG Chronicles requires no hoops and no subscription, but you knew that from the last time you brought it up.
And your players have already all quit five or six times now, so I wouldn't worry about it.
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I was there a few months back and I recall needing a subscription for several key features.
Whenever I go to the game shop, the GM always has me sign into RPGChronicles to fill out my character information (which required signing up).
I have no idea why my experiences with the service seem to differ from yours.
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You don't need to log into an account to fill out character information. Click the "Sign Up" button to sign up for the PFS session. You will then be shown a pop up that encourages you to create an account with three options: "I have an account," "Create Account," and "No Thanks." Choosing "No Thanks" takes you immediately to the character details entry form.
To create Sign Up sheets, e.g., as the GM or event organizer, you need an account. Simply having an account requires no money. The paid version allows anonymous emailing of character sheets and a string to copy for rapid completion of reporting details.
Venture-Lieutenant, Finland—Turku
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What software are you using to handle the pdf?
For me, adobe Acrobat (free, not paid) allows to mark and sign the pdf and then print it as pdf just fine, as does opening it in edge, firefox, or chrome (I'm not sure if any of those are using some sort of extension?)
In either case, I really recommend giving rpgchronicles a try.
As others have explained, there's no need for an account - signing up to your game on rpg chronicles is just as easy for the players as it would be on any other platform, such as google sheets or where ever you may want their details to. Just throw them the link, they click it, they fill in their details.
It also automatically calculates the challenge points for you, and creates the chronicle sheets. There's a minor issue that isn't immediately apparent: If I recall, it doesn't check the boxes for "and you befriended/killed/let the BBEG go free" checboxes, unless you go to the end, insert the chronicle code, and then go one step back again to select the checkmarks.
Honestly, filling in the chronicle sheets is such a chore, and rpgchronicles is such a huge QoL boost to that.
Venture-Lieutenant, Netherlands—Leiden
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You don't as a player or GM need to pay for RPGchronicles to be able to use it. But paying unlocks some additional features which for me at least are worth the money.
Free:
- Make an account, keep track of previous chronicles
- As GM, create chronicle PDFs
- As player, change your signup data (for example if you change to a different character)
Paid:
- As player, prefill your organized play number during signup
- As GM, send out chronicles via email instead of having to email them manually
- As GM, automate a lot of the reporting on paizo.com
The split is very much on the line of "purely needed to function" vs "saves you time and work".
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The A, B, C, D check boxes are on the second page before yiu enter the scenario code on the third page.
I don't mean those, I mean the tiny boxes on the chronicle sheet's recap page "And so you went down the path of []red light, [] blue light, []neither, where you faced []dragon, []werewolf, []a hag", they don't appear until you've filled out the chronicle code on page 3 and returned to page 2. if you don't return, you'll need to manually edit the PDFs after you've downloaded them, to make the correct notes on the chronicle sheets before sending them to your players.
I'm just saying that functionality isn't clearly instructed on the webpage.
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Hm.
I'm like 60-70% sure this functionality existed. I'm not sure if it only exists for some scenarios, or if I've just dreamed about this existing (rpgchronicles automatically checking the boxes on the chronicle sheet) or if I missed something just now when I tried it with 4-14, but nope, it did not fill in the checkboxes.
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No, wait, it definitely does! It works with quest Quest 19, for example.
Players have filled their details on step 1, you fill in the scenario TBs etc on step 2, you move on to step 3, insert chronicle code, save information, and return to step 2: New field appears that has the scenario recap text (heavily edited to avoid spoilers;)
You can then check those boxes, return to page 3, and then download the scenarios with the boxes already checked.
No idea why this didn't work for 4-14 for me earlier.
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I use the Adobe Creative Suite to edit PDFs, which includes the professional version of Adobe Acrobat.
Last I checked, it did not let me edit the forms, fill out any of the fields, or sign anything. It's locked behind a password that only Paizo possesses.
I did a round of reports on RPGChronicles last night. Worked fine for the most part and I was able to print them out, file them away, and send digital copies to the players (manually). For the most part it worked pretty well. I did have to check a couple of boxes more than once, since--as I switched between Steps 1, 2, and 3 to double check things--they would sometimes uncheck themselves.
I had to make a couple of edits in Adobe Acrobat after the fact though. It gave the players 4 set prestige to Envoy's Alliance rather than the 2 it should have been. It also listed incorrect Prestige Totals on almost all the chronicle sheets, so I simply removed that verbiage in Acrobat.
RPGChronicles also didn't preserve any of the records. When I logged back in today, it's all gone. If I hadn't saved them to my PC and printed hard copies, I would have to start all over. I even tried removing all the filters, then trying them one by one. Nope, it's just...gone. (Or perhaps never was, as I never saw a listing last night either.)
The website doesn't seem all that reliable either. A few areas, like the Manage Subscriptions page, kept returning a 500 Internal Server Error.
Needless to say, I'm not too pleased about some of those issues.
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I use the Adobe Creative Suite to edit PDFs, which includes the professional version of Adobe Acrobat.
Last I checked, it did not let me edit the forms, fill out any of the fields, or sign anything. It's locked behind a password that only Paizo possesses.
Might I suggest trying to Fill & Sign tools instead of the Edit tools. Or just printing the chronicle sheet to a new 1 page PDF.
RPG chronicles has stored all my records just fine. If you weren't logged in when you created the first session it wouldn't be saved though.
Finally, what adventure were you GMing, where you think it was giving the incorrect prestige totals?
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Might I suggest trying to Fill & Sign tools instead of the Edit tools.
I'll give it a shot.
Or just printing the chronicle sheet to a new 1 page PDF.
When I tried that (before starting this thread) it only exported a text file that said:
%%[ ProductName: Distiller ]%%
This PostScript file was created from an encrypted PDF file.
Redistilling encrypted PDF is not permitted.
%%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%%
%%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %%
It did not generate a one-page PDF or anything remotely useful.
RPG chronicles has stored all my records just fine. If you weren't logged in when you created the first session it wouldn't be saved though.
I'm pretty sure I was logged in first. I'll keep a closer eye out for it next time.
Finally, what adventure were you GMing, where you think it was giving the incorrect prestige totals?
Scenario #5-01 - Pathfinder Society Intro: Year of Unfettered Exploration
The PCs should receive 4 reputation with a faction of their choice, then an additional 2 reputation with Envoy's Alliance faction.
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If you're on Windows 11, the built in "Microsoft print to pdf" "printer" I've found works quite well. I used to have a 3rd party one before that became a built in feature but I can't remember who made it.
If you're on a MAC I suspect it doesn't have that functionality built in, and you'll need to find a printer driver yourself. This seems like it should do the trick.
Although I have not GMed 5-01, I have played it a couple times and have chronicles generated from RPG chronicles and they all have correct Prestige Totals. I suspect the problem is somewhere in your data entry not being the same as what they expect.
Here is a sample photo.
As a note, RPG chronicles also has a discord that's fairly responsive to issues.
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I will say it's super easy in RPG Chronicles to have it accidently not save changes. You have to hit the save button each time, not just move between sections.
As a note I just tried generating a sheet for 5-01 and it gave me the correct prestige values with this input on Step 2: Post Game.
Obviously without your records saved you can't go back and check your input, but I'd guess it's much more likely your input is something other than that, rather than it just mysteriously providing you and only you with incorrect output for no reason.
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The A, B, C, D check boxes are on the second page before yiu enter the scenario code on the third page.I don't mean those, I mean the tiny boxes on the chronicle sheet's recap page "And so you went down the path of []red light, [] blue light, []neither, where you faced []dragon, []werewolf, []a hag", they don't appear until you've filled out the chronicle code on page 3 and returned to page 2. if you don't return, you'll need to manually edit the PDFs after you've downloaded them, to make the correct notes on the chronicle sheets before sending them to your players.
I'm just saying that functionality isn't clearly instructed on the webpage.
That's a new thing. I don't think it's fully implemented, especially for older scenarios.