Remaster Cantrips / Spells and Eldritch Archer

[fixedpoint1]

With the remaster, many spells that previously had attack rolls no longer have them (Frostbite, Caustic Blast, Vitality Lash, Thunderstrike, ...). I'm actually struggling to find four cantrips from primal that have attack rolls: tangle vine, ignition, gouging claw, ???

What are folks planning on using for their Eldritch Archers with the remaster?

And specifically, with ignition, do you use the melee or ranged damage dice?

[gesalt]

I assume that, like the magus, people will be using focus spells for eldritch archer. You don't need four different spells when you're firing psi amps or cleric domain spells.

I'm going to assume you'd use ranged ignition if the target isn't "within your melee reach" at time of casting.

[Baarogue]

Just use the old spells and cantrips. They haven't and won't be removed from aon and they're still legal in pfs if they haven't been remastered under the same name

[Tactical Drongo]

I think, since the core 2 has the more complex options, it will be the book that gets the lions share of Attack roll spells.

Also: RoE has a few, like needle dart, that are Attack roll spells

[SuperBidi]

gesalt wrote:

I assume that, like the magus, people will be using focus spells for eldritch archer. You don't need four different spells when you're firing psi amps or cleric domain spells.

You'll hardly get both the Eldritch Archer Dedication that starts at 6 and another Dedication unless you play with Free Archetype. So lots of people won't get any Focus Spell for their Eldritch Archer or only during the last third of their career.

[gesalt]

SuperBidi wrote:

gesalt wrote:

I assume that, like the magus, people will be using focus spells for eldritch archer. You don't need four different spells when you're firing psi amps or cleric domain spells.

You'll hardly get both the Eldritch Archer Dedication that starts at 6 and another Dedication unless you play with Free Archetype. So lots of people won't get any Focus Spell for their Eldritch Archer or only during the last third of their career.

So delay Eldritch archer to 8? A two level delay for a fat increase in power is hardly a difficult ask. Or they grab multitalented psychic at 9 for amp TKP or IW at 10 with psi development. It's not exactly difficult to manage.