What are some smurfing good kineticist combos that pair well with another kineticist (of the same or different element(s)) in the party?
For example, two phytokineticists using protector tree (which arguably doesn’t protect the caster) to protect one another, or spamming the battlefield with a smurf load of berms to create elaborate death tunnels and the like.
If you got to play two kineticists, or coordinate with another kineticist player, what might your smurfy ideas be?
One of the first things I'd want to try is abusing forced movement and hazardous terrain. In particular, Scorching Column scales ridiculously well (lol weakness aura), but.
A bit late game, but "shatter shield" and "orchard' endurance" looks like a fantastic defense combo. (Only against bludgeoning and piercing) And with shape aura from earlier you can really spread far.
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Dragonhearthx wrote: A bit late game, but "shatter shield" and "orchard' endurance" looks like a fantastic defense combo. (Only against bludgeoning and piercing) And with shape aura from earlier you can really spread far. Overlapping normally unstackable auras and buffing everyone like the slivers from MtG? Nice!
Ravingdork wrote: Dragonhearthx wrote: A bit late game, but "shatter shield" and "orchard' endurance" looks like a fantastic defense combo. (Only against bludgeoning and piercing) And with shape aura from earlier you can really spread far. Overlapping normally unstackable auras and buffing everyone like the slivers from MtG? Nice! wait, do auras not overlap? Or stack?
Dragonhearthx wrote: Ravingdork wrote: Dragonhearthx wrote: A bit late game, but "shatter shield" and "orchard' endurance" looks like a fantastic defense combo. (Only against bludgeoning and piercing) And with shape aura from earlier you can really spread far. Overlapping normally unstackable auras and buffing everyone like the slivers from MtG? Nice! wait, do auras not overlap? Or stack? Normally you can't stack DR (only apply the highest) but for those two powers, one is DR, and the other is Hardness,which stack with each other for very similar effects.
shroudb wrote: Normally you can't stack DR (only apply the highest) but for those two powers, one is DR, and the other is Hardness,which stack with each other for very similar effects. but can you benefit from multiple auras at the same time?
Dragonhearthx wrote: shroudb wrote: Normally you can't stack DR (only apply the highest) but for those two powers, one is DR, and the other is Hardness,which stack with each other for very similar effects. but can you benefit from multiple auras at the same time? Yes.
Although each person can only have 1 stance active.
But for "auras" in general, there's no limit.
shroudb wrote: Dragonhearthx wrote: shroudb wrote: Normally you can't stack DR (only apply the highest) but for those two powers, one is DR, and the other is Hardness,which stack with each other for very similar effects. but can you benefit from multiple auras at the same time? Yes.
Although each person can only have 1 stance active.
But for "auras" in general, there's no limit. Thank you. I wasn't sure if the other guy was being sarcastic or not.
Dragonhearthx wrote: shroudb wrote: Dragonhearthx wrote: shroudb wrote: Normally you can't stack DR (only apply the highest) but for those two powers, one is DR, and the other is Hardness,which stack with each other for very similar effects. but can you benefit from multiple auras at the same time? Yes.
Although each person can only have 1 stance active.
But for "auras" in general, there's no limit. Thank you. I wasn't sure if the other guy was being sarcastic or not. He wasn't sarcastic.
I explained to you what he meant.
You focused on the "aura" part while he was talking about the "effects" of said auras when he was talking about "normally unstackable".
I was thinking about this and Kineticist oddly combo AMAZING with other Kineticist. Some examples...
Enemies can't move: Basically ravel of thorns combos with difficult terrain so well that having an ally spam it is great!
Ravel of Thorns + Athletics (Whip)
Kineticist spamming difficult terrain. Eventually picking up sand snatcher.
Burning Death: Enemies will just burn to death and the kineticist could focus entire on defense with Timber Sentinel / Fruit / Healing etc..
Fire + Water Kineticist + Thermal Nimbus + Incendiary Aura + Fire Aura Junction
Wood + Earth Kineticist + Ravel of Thorn + Earth Aura Junction. Enemies can't get to the fire Kineticist easily.
The real combos start at 10+ though. Once Kineticist get aura shaping things seem very bad for enemies. 20 Ft Ravel of Thorn + Difficult Terrain + Sand Snatcher for single targets or area control spells for multiple mobs (pallisade/sanguivolent roots etc...)
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shroudb wrote: He wasn't sarcastic.
I explained to you what he meant.
You focused on the "aura" part while he was talking about the "effects" of said auras when he was talking about "normally unstackable".
Uh, no. I made the statement thinking that you could only have one aura active at a time (for yourself), but that you could get around said limitation by having someone else with a second aura active. Seems I simply made a mistake and got auras mixed up with stances.
Ravingdork wrote: shroudb wrote: He wasn't sarcastic.
I explained to you what he meant.
You focused on the "aura" part while he was talking about the "effects" of said auras when he was talking about "normally unstackable".
Uh, no. I made the statement thinking that you could only have one aura active at a time (for yourself), but that you could get around said limitation by having someone else with a second aura active. Seems I simply made a mistake and got auras mixed up with stances. ah, oups.
that said, your sentence could indeed be read both ways
"normally unstackable auras" could point simultaneously at either the effect being unstackable or the fact that it is an aura being unstackable.
my bad, glad the confusion of the poster got cleared either way.
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