Lifting Belt Limitations


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When using the lifting belt's lifting effect, can you lift something that is more than 8 bulk if you have any bulk capacity remaining? For example, if we assume that I am using only 2 out of my 12 bulk max capacity, and attempt to use my belt to lift something that is 16 bulk (say, to tip over a Large cauldron full of magic goop), can I do it?

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I'd say no, sadly. I really like the idea but the wording doesn't allow for it so you'd be in Rule 0 territory, "up to" is pretty much rock solid in terms of it being a hard limit and since it doesn't note that you can instead use the effect to ignore up to 8 Bulk from an Object when going to lift it I'd say it wouldn't work. Something that is 9+ Bulk would in no way be impacted by the item.

If it ever came up at my table though, I'd allow it.


My Paladin has one of these, any thoughts on the potential of using 8bulk projectiles against enemies? How would it work, since you treat it as weightless? Could you throw it really hard and deal some decent damage?

I mainly took it to pull doors from their hinges, knocking down stuff to make cover, etc. Are there any clever uses that could make it helpful?

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Lightning Raven wrote:

My Paladin has one of these, any thoughts on the potential of using 8bulk projectiles against enemies? How would it work, since you treat it as weightless? Could you throw it really hard and deal some decent damage?

I mainly took it to pull doors from their hinges, knocking down stuff to make cover, etc. Are there any clever uses that could make it helpful?

RAW, the object only feels weightless for the purpose of lifting it. And the Force Open check is only for lifting it too.

For any action other than lifting it : "The object still has its full weight and Bulk for all other purposes".

Way I read it, I would not allow the effect to be used to open a door, nor to move things around and even less for throwing them. Merely for lifting. Like the heroic trope of lifting a car/tree/rock to rescue the person stuck under it.


I think you can lift a door and make the Force Open Check, can't you? It will depend on the check outcome, but I think it's within the rules this one, no shenanigans required. Sure, some doors will not be possible, but most regular doors would definitely allow it.

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Lightning Raven wrote:
I think you can lift a door and make the Force Open Check, can't you? It will depend on the check outcome, but I think it's within the rules this one, no shenanigans required. Sure, some doors will not be possible, but most regular doors would definitely allow it.

TBH I would likely not allow it at my table because it clashes with the visuals I have of its use.

Now, another GM might allow it, but I would definitely expect table variance.


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in my games, for force open, it would really depend on the door i think.

if it was something like a portcullis that opens upwards, i would certainly allow it, it fits with the theme/visual of lifting things above your weight class.

if it was a normal door with hinges, usually it's not their "weight" that stops someone from simply lifting it up from its hinges, but stuff like deadbolts and such that keep it in place. So i wouldn't allow it there.


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shroudb wrote:

in my games, for force open, it would really depend on the door i think.

if it was something like a portcullis that opens upwards, i would certainly allow it, it fits with the theme/visual of lifting things above your weight class.

if it was a normal door with hinges, usually it's not their "weight" that stops someone from simply lifting it up from its hinges, but stuff like deadbolts and such that keep it in place. So i wouldn't allow it there.

Same. A portcullis mostly works by being heavy, although I suppose there were probably some that had bar locks to help prevent a group of people from trying to lift it. Still, I would let you try to lift such a item. But a door on hinges is a no. That's not a lift.

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