Kuthite monk


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Vigilant Seal

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

Im running the Bloodlords AP and was adding a side quest that delves into the Empty Threshold. I wanted to add a fetchling Kuthite monk who uses a spiked chain (zon-kuthon's weapon), my current plan was to just lump it in with monastic weapons and call it a day. Rarity isn't the issue for this setting. What I am looking for is a way, raw, to make this concept by level 3 or 4. Best I can come up with is having 14 strength and getting mauler dedication. I'm curious what other options I may have missed.


Well nothing you do will let you flurry with it, but it is presumably a human-culture weapon given the uncommon tag so unconventional weaponry should have no problem grabbing it for you and making it a simple weapon for proficiency.


Is this a npc? If so, raw is what you want it to be as npc's don't have to be built like pc's. There isn't a way for to make a spiked chain a monk weapon, but you said you'd changing monastic weapons to fit, so what are you asking for? Is it a scaling proficiency? if so:
#1 use Variant Rules [Deep Backgrounds] one roll allows you to get he Adopted Ancestry feat [Table 4-6: Homeland/Another Ancestry’s Settlement]. Take human and for your ancestry feat, take Unconventional Weaponry, allowing it to use simple weapon proficiency.
#1a as above but adopted a 3rd [general feat] and Unconventional Weaponry a 5th.
#2 take Archetype Gladiator and at 6th take Performative Weapons Training
#3 str 14 and mauler at 2nd

Vigilant Seal

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber
graystone wrote:

Is this a npc? If so, raw is what you want it to be as npc's don't have to be built like pc's. There isn't a way for to make a spiked chain a monk weapon, but you said you'd changing monastic weapons to fit, so what are you asking for? Is it a scaling proficiency? if so:

#1 use Variant Rules [Deep Backgrounds] one roll allows you to get he Adopted Ancestry feat [Table 4-6: Homeland/Another Ancestry’s Settlement]. Take human and for your ancestry feat, take Unconventional Weaponry, allowing it to use simple weapon proficiency.
#1a as above but adopted a 3rd [general feat] and Unconventional Weaponry a 5th.
#2 take Archetype Gladiator and at 6th take Performative Weapons Training
#3 str 14 and mauler at 2nd

Like I said, I am looking for is a way, raw, to make this concept by level 3 or 4 that i may have missed.You do make a good point that it won't work raw even with mauler.

#1 gunna look into this, im not familiar with deep backgrounds. Was set on it being fetching, I know human is always the catch all for how to get some weird builds.

#2 worth a look

#3 Mauler will allow it to scale but, as you and gestalt originally pointed out, thats it.

Thanks, I think you likely covered every possible odd way to try and get this concept to work. It appears that only with GM house rule powers this will work. Which is a bit of a shame.


LordPretzels wrote:
#1 gunna look into this, im not familiar with deep backgrounds. Was set on it being fetching, I know human is always the catch all for how to get some weird builds.

It would still be a fetchling, just one that was adopted by humans: you're just using your skill feat [from background] and your 1st level ancestry feat on human.

On deep backgrounds, it's just an expanded was to do backgrounds where you make a series of rolls that gives you multiple options your stat bonus, skill and feat.

Vigilant Seal

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber
graystone wrote:
LordPretzels wrote:
#1 gunna look into this, im not familiar with deep backgrounds. Was set on it being fetching, I know human is always the catch all for how to get some weird builds.

It would still be a fetchling, just one that was adopted by humans: you're just using your skill feat [from background] and your 1st level ancestry feat on human.

On deep backgrounds, it's just an expanded was to do backgrounds where you make a series of rolls that gives you multiple options your stat bonus, skill and feat.

Oh! I see where you're going now. Thanks again for the great suggestions.

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