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I was told today that by RAW the emanation from bless does not move with the caster. It is stationary, meaning to move it the caster has to move and spend an action to extened it by 5 feet thus recnetering it on them. There was a lot of discuccsion around emanations and the thought that they do not move unless it it says "emanation that continually ebbs out from you" like aura. I did bring Sphere of Invisibilty which states "While exploring, it's easy to move together slowly and remain invisible". which I guess which implies movement?
Is this true? have I been playing bless wrong for 2 years now? Dogs and cats living together? Mass hysteria?
Thanks for any wisdom shared :)
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I was told today that by RAW the emanation from bless does not move with the caster.
Pretty much, yes.
By strict RAW, spending an action to expand the radius of Bless would not recenter the emanation on you either.
But strict RAW in this case is a bit strange. There are a lot of spells that have an Emanation area, a duration, and don't have the Aura trait. Most of them are hard to mesh their strict RAW mechanics with being a fixed location once cast. Invisibility Sphere being a great example of that. Their suggested spell usage doesn't work mechanically by strict RAW.
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Thanks for the Reply! It seems like adding the "Aura" trait to a few of these spells fixes the issues or maybe that is the rule as intended? Invisibility Sphere seems like a strange case, maybe I am reading to much into the wording and the rules but it sure does not seem like it. Has this been raised for that FAQ? Was there any comment on it?
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Are you telling me invisibility sphere doesn't move with the caster even though the spell text makes it seem like it would move with the caster?
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Are you telling me invisibility sphere doesn't move with the caster even though the spell text makes it seem like it would move with the caster?
I don't see anything in the Emanation area rules that says that the effect is mobile.
And the existence of the Aura trait and the 3rd printing CRB errata
Several auras were missing the aura trait. Add it to monk's Enlightened Presence feat and the divine aura, destructive aura, protector's sphere, angelic halo, dread aura, and protective ward spells
indicates that without this trait, the effect is not mobile.
Now, that doesn't make a lot of sense to me, but that is what the rules say.
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There may be a few that make sense to be a fixed location emanation - such as perhaps Circle of Protection, but even that one works fine following the target around.
The other option is the way that Sanctified Ground does it - as a burst centered on yourself (even though burst is normally targeting a grid intersection).
So in general, I would think that a spell or other effect with an Emanation area and a Duration should behave like an Aura.
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I was told today that by RAW the emanation from bless does not move with the caster.
Bless moves with the caster. The player who told you otherwise tries to get crazy things out of RAW.
Emanation's area is calculated from the caster, and as such moves when the caster moves.
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Guidance on Bless is a waste, they don't stack! ;)
I don't see anything in the Emanation area rules that says that the effect is mobile.I definitely see, and it was discussed and mentioned several times already: "An emanation issues forth from each side of your space". If it's not mobile, the moment you move it doesn't 'issue from your space' anymore, and it's not an emanation by definition anymore. Therefore it must be mobile to be an 'emanation'.
Then what is the point of the Aura trait? And why spend time creating an errata to add that trait to certain specific spells and other effects that were missing the trait - but not others?
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Then what is the point of the Aura trait? And why spend time creating an errata to add that trait to certain specific spells and other effects that were missing the trait - but not others?I don't see anything in the Emanation area rules that says that the effect is mobile.I definitely see, and it was discussed and mentioned several times already: "An emanation issues forth from each side of your space". If it's not mobile, the moment you move it doesn't 'issue from your space' anymore, and it's not an emanation by definition anymore. Therefore it must be mobile to be an 'emanation'.
I have absolutely no idea. Maybe they really want to separate Emanations from Auras for whatever reason. Auras are Emanations, but Emanations are not necessarily Auras. That's all I can answer.
I've never thought of emanations as being auras or vice versa, nor did I ever consider that an ongoing emanationmight be immobile. They've always been separate things in my mind.
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I tend to agree with Superbidi. Emanations are said to issue from your space and if you move, the emanation moves with you. If that is not how it works, I'd sure like Paizo to clarify that. That would make emanations hard to adjudicate if they don't move with the caster.
Indeed. If I cast a 10 foot emanation and exclude myself from the effect, and then move to a different square that is still inside the spell's area but is no longer at the center of the emanation - can I still exclude myself from the effect?
*stares in visible confusion*
Indeed. If I cast a 10 foot emanation and exclude myself from the effect, and then move to a different square that is still inside the spell's area but is no longer at the center of the emanation - can I still exclude myself from the effect?
Not unless the text of the emanation in question says so as far as I can see.
Unless the text states otherwise, the creature creating an emanation effect chooses whether the creature at its center is affected.
Seems pretty clear to only apply to centered creatures.