Howdy gents! I asked this on Reddit, but I believe this is the place to go for official rulings. I asked my GM, and he said he'd go with yes ... unless Paizo suddenly says no in which case I'll be stuck with it after the game has already started, too bad so sad, lol.
So the rules say you can retrain feats no problem, but you cannot retrain Heritage. So I know I can't retrain out of Versatile Heritage (the one that gives a level 1 general feat slot, not as in mixed ancestries). But what about the general feat you get from Versatile Heritage? Can you retrain the general feat itself?
My assumption is yes since you're retraining the feat, not the heritage, but I need to be absolutely certain since the general feat I'm putting in there at level 1 will be useless later (light armor proficiency on a class with only unarmored expert at level 13). I googled the hell out of this question and I could not find an answer. Help me, Obi Wan Community!
I'm pretty sure you can. I don't have any rules to point to for that beyond the absence of saying you can't though.
The only part that could suggest not to is "you can't retrain your heritage", which is not specifically what you're trying to do.
Plus, your heritage is literally called versatile. That means nothing in terms of rules but retraining fits the theme.
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Firstly let me say, this isn't really a place for official rulings either. While sometimes the developers do get involved in questions posed here, it is relatively rare and they leave it instead to the denizens of the forums who are often as proficient as any given game developer.
Where the devs are actually more likely to be involved is in questions of lore, especially ones that don't have much written about them officially.
That out of the way, I agree that you're not retraining your heritage, simply the feat it grants. You should be able to retrain it for any other level 1 general feat that you could have selected when you built the character.
You're not trying to go from a Versatile Heritage human to Skilled heritage for example.
Thanks, folks! Aside from one person on Reddit who disagreed, the overall consensus seems to be that this is fine.
Howdy gents! I asked this on Reddit, but I believe this is the place to go for official rulings.
Reddit is a popularity contest. Often cute but logic light answers win out. We do tend to hash things out here better.
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I'll third (fourth?) the sentiment that we forum trolls don't actually provide official rulings.
That said, my rule of thumb for retraining: If you can create the character from scratch, starting with the required non-retrainable choices (ancestry, class, heritage, ability boosts, ...) any valid character that you can create from that point is a valid target for a retraining of your current character.
So yes. Picking Versatile Heritage is required, but which specific feat you choose from it is not. So you can retrain that.
I’m curious as to whether people here would allow retraining of the skill picked from the Skilled Heritage. That said, I agree with being able to retrain the Versatile Heritage feat.
Yeah, Versatile Heritage is basically "because of your upbringing, you picked up an extra general feat." You can't change this fact, but you can change what your extra general feat is like you could change what any feat you've learned is.
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I’m curious as to whether people here would allow retraining of the skill picked from the Skilled Heritage. That said, I agree with being able to retrain the Versatile Heritage feat.
Skill choices can normally be retrained, so I don't see a problem with that. Although if you were already level 5 (and the skill had flipped to expert) I think you'd have to do a double feature retrain to retrain both levels of the skill.
I’m curious as to whether people here would allow retraining of the skill picked from the Skilled Heritage. That said, I agree with being able to retrain the Versatile Heritage feat.Skill choices can normally be retrained, so I don't see a problem with that. Although if you were already level 5 (and the skill had flipped to expert) I think you'd have to do a double feature retrain to retrain both levels of the skill.
I concur, you could retrain but it would take longer because you have to retrain the base training and expert skill increase. So I'd probably say it would take 2 weeks.