spoilers: Saw this elsewhere so thought about to ask it here: so is anybody else confused about this aspect of this year's metaplot?

[CorvusMask]

Like... Why are the Onyx Alliance the latest big bads of this metaplot? Did people vote to side against Nigel or did writers just really want to do the "Onyx Alliance might have reformed but still eeeeeeevil" plotline?

Like... I'm not sure why OA is particularly motivated to act against Society instead of Blakros family when lot of pathfinders seem fed up with Blakros family getting away with lot of questionable things <_<

[NECR0G1ANT]

Presumably the Society didn't agree to work with Dhrami Blakros and Nigel Aldain.

As for the Onyx Alliance's motivations, hopefully we'll find out more.

[NielsenE]

pretty sure its just an upshot of the reporting conditions not allowing the nuance needed.

All the tables I ran, played at, or talked to at cons, expressed the desire to

2-07/8?:

help nigel & the OA, but the reporting condition is 'stay involved in the dispute versus not' you weren't able to take sides when you filled out the reporting condition. And since the PF and BM are presented as allies (even if we don't normally view it that way) stay involved meant staying on the 'wrong' side with no way to say otherwise.

[Estara Potts]

Can we just BURN DOWN the Museum already 'on accident' and 'save the materials inside just in time' so we never have to go back there, please?

[Ikilwa Underfoot]

"The Blakros clan sold their own hatchlings to collectors on another plane! There's a special spot in HELL for those kinds of people -- that's not an act of 'Love'. I don't think we should burn down the Museum. We should buy it out and tell the Blakros to just... go somewhere nice and retire forever."

[Watery Soup]

Keep in mind not everyone found the deception in The Blakros Deception.

I know more from GMing certain PFS1 scenarios than from whatever is going on in PFS2.

[Mike Kimmel]

All in due time.

Well, maybe not all in due time. Is "some in due time" a thing? Hmmmmm. Probably not.

Oh well. Back to the word mines!

[CorvusMask]

Mike Kimmel wrote:

All in due time.

Well, maybe not all in due time. Is "some in due time" a thing? Hmmmmm. Probably not.

Oh well. Back to the word mines!

Lords of Karma have been waiting for shoe to drop on Blakros :D

[CorvusMask]

Another thing I'm confused by:

Absalom books keeps making references to Sarnia Blakros' taking over Onyx Alliance having happened in 4712 and that being public... But she was introduced in Daughter's Due (2019) right, so is this error or retcon or what?

Edit: oki got heard that timeline was that after her being sold to OA at 4700 she took 15 years to take control of OA, so it is timeline error by 3 years, but not big one

I did more digging up on this and uh its even more complicated than I thought because Absalom book talks as if Sarnia was directly involved in Blakros Matrimony scenario along with character named Pieter who wasn't in that scenario either. So either its retcon or error?

[Eric Clingenpeel]

CorvusMask wrote:

I did more digging up on this and uh its even more complicated than I thought because Absalom book talks as if Sarnia was directly involved in Blakros Matrimony scenario along with character named Pieter who wasn't in that scenario either. So either its retcon or error?

I believe there was an Onyx Alliance attack on the Grand Convocation it was only run at Paizocon that year and never released to the Society to run at large. Somewhere I remember reading a brief synopsis about what happened at that convocation, though I can't remember where I saw it.

A few posts talking about it here

[NielsenE]

While I normally run everything before playing it, I'm getting a chance to play some recent-ish metaplot scenarios before reading them which is wonderful.

However, I just got to play one of them, which I suspect was the catalyst for this thread (even more than just the metaplot in general) and yes its falling extremely flat for me, Almost to the point of just wanting to skip playing/gm any following metaplot scenario this season. (Which would be sad since its a very metaplot heavy season).

[Mike Kimmel]

There are two entirely new metaplot arcs launching this month, in Qadira and Osirion! Even if you're not interested in the one under discussion, I encourage you to check them out.

[CorvusMask]

I do want to say that I do overall like structure of this year's metaplot, the majority of scenarios being related to metaplot by being related to one of multiple subplots of the overall metaplot I mean and I like lot of the details of the individual subplots as well.

[MadScientistWorking]

CorvusMask wrote:

Like... Why are the Onyx Alliance the latest big bads of this metaplot? Did people vote to side against Nigel or did writers just really want to do the "Onyx Alliance might have reformed but still eeeeeeevil" plotline?

Like... I'm not sure why OA is particularly motivated to act against Society instead of Blakros family when lot of pathfinders seem fed up with Blakros family getting away with lot of questionable things <_<

So Im spoilering this because as insane as this sounds it actually follows lore and might be right.

Spoiler:

You see its quite easy. Razmir is manipulating things behind the scenes to weaken one of the few factions in Absalom capable of matching him power wise in an attempt to secure the power of the starstone.

Also in case anyone is wondering what I mean by that spoiler Im just going to leave this here:

Jason Bulman wrote:

I would pay particular attention to the company that some of the prominent elder generation of Blakroses have been keeping recently, perhaps behind their husband's back, and that may lead to some additional clues about the true identity of a particularly charming gentleman who was first introduced... well, I'm not going to say when he was first introduced, that's too many clues. [...] Its a BIGGG deal.

[Jared Thaler - Personal Opinion]

Estara Potts wrote:

Can we just BURN DOWN the Museum already 'on accident' and 'save the materials inside just in time' so we never have to go back there, please?

The entire building is carved from a single block of black stone IIRC. You are going to need to blow it up.

[Aristophanes]

Ikilwa Underfoot wrote:

"The Blakros clan sold their own hatchlings to collectors on another plane! There's a special spot in HELL for those kinds of people -- that's not an act of 'Love'. I don't think we should burn down the Museum. We should buy it out and tell the Blakros to just... go somewhere nice and retire forever."

Along with child molesters...and people who talk at the theatre.