What feats, spells, and other abilities are there in the game for forcing an enemy to reroll checks and saves?
I'm asking about abilities in general, but am specifically hoping to find a way to maximize use of spells like feeblemind and phantasmal killer to debuff and force a save reroll for the worse.
Bonuses and penalties being as limited as they are, you gotta find alternative routes to success, right?
What feats, spells, and other abilities are there in the game for forcing an enemy to reroll checks and saves?
I'm asking about abilities in general, but am specifically hoping to find a way to maximize use of spells like feeblemind and phantasmal killer to debuff and force a save reroll for the worse.
Bonuses and penalties being as limited as they are, you gotta find alternative routes to success, right?
For saves? Black cat curse (tabaxi 13), and grinning pugwampi (item 14, Single use) are the only ones I think. There are more options for forcing rerolls on attacks and skills though. Misfortune effects in general are rare compared to fortune effects which obviously favor defense and attack rolls over targeting saves.
However, on the off chance you weren't already aware, we can do better. Animate dead in a 5th level slot summons the bone croupier who can force a failure with 100% reliability assuming it survives a round.
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That comes with a giant asterisk, of course, since it's been confirmed that the Bone Croupier should not be Common and summonable.
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Keep in mind that the Grinning Pugwampi weapon talisman:
- requires a successful weapon strike against a flat footed target to activate,
- has its own DC33 Will save (though even a success won't eliminate the effect entirely), and
- as a Misfortune effect, it can be negated by applying a Fortune effect to the roll (not that those are common for NPCs in my experience).
Harbingers caw does it on attacks and skills as a tengu feat.
Black cat curse is the best one.
Time Beacon technically makes a reroll as you rewind time.
Also that Tengu Feat, Harbingers Caw for skill checks.