Manufacturer question


Rules Questions


1 person marked this as FAQ candidate.

Can I have a Snowgarden Productions analog weapon?


RAW, not if it's an analog melee weapon. I'd allow it just from the manufacturer description, but the general rule is no analog melee, bows, thrown weapons, or grenades.


Are you sure? I know what the general description for restrictions says, but the description for this manufacturer says they make melee weapons and since most melee weapons have the analog trait it would seem useless if this followed those restrictions.


limelizard wrote:
Are you sure? I know what the general description for restrictions says, but the description for this manufacturer says they make melee weapons and since most melee weapons have the analog trait it would seem useless if this followed those restrictions.

There are quite a lot of powered melee weapons which aren't analog. And a lot of those target EAC, which tends to be better anyway.

So, yeah, RAW it doesn't work.


Pathfinder Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Garretmander wrote:
RAW, not if it's an analog melee weapon. I'd allow it just from the manufacturer description, but the general rule is no analog melee, bows, thrown weapons, or grenades.

What are you looking at here? The ONLY restriction in the text is that the weapon be a melee weapon. (For those uncertain of the source, it is The Armory, page 57.) So yes, an analog melee weapon could be made with Snowgarden's modifications.


Many of these modifications can’t be used on weapons
that operate without internal mechanisms the manufacturer’s
alteration can govern. Such weapons include analog melee
weapons, bows, thrown weapons, and grenades.

Thats the section being referenced with the 'no analog' weapons. Armory Page 55 under manufacturers.


Pathfinder Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

"Snowgarden Productions has been manufacturing weapons for combat performance since sometime during the Gap, with a focus on providing melee weapons to the infamous battleflowers of Ning."

Given the effect of the modification, this seems a clear case of specific versus general.


Pathfinder Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Also from page 55 in the last paragraph; "In any case, a specific manufacturer’s rules supersede these generalities."


The Snowgarden doesn't specifically state it works with Analog weapons, just melee. Which to me is them saying it doesn't work for ranged weapons, not that it works for all melee, negating the base restriction


1 person marked this as a favorite.
limelizard wrote:
Can I have a Snowgarden Productions analog weapon?

Yes

Many of these modifications can’t be used on weapons that operate without internal mechanisms the manufacturer’s alteration can govern. Such weapons include analog melee weapons, bows, thrown weapons, and grenades.

Based in the Immortal Suzerainty of Ning, Snowgarden Productions has been manufacturing weapons for combat performance since sometime during the Gap, with a focus on providing melee weapons to the infamous battleflowers of Ning. Those who have ranks in Profession (dancer) equal to a Snowgarden melee weapon’s level can use the device to deal nonlethal damage without the normal penalty to attack rolls. Snowgarden Productions sells its fashionable, elegant melee weapons for 10% more than normal.

1) Snowgarden only make melee weapons. If the manufacturer was limited to powered melee weapons it would say so.

2) Fashionable and elegant sound a lot easier to do on physical weapons (analog ones) than a burning blade sticking out of an emiter handle.

3) Battleflowers are elite martial artists. The battleflower tradition goes back millennia. Renouncing family, social status, and outward expressions of gender, battleflowers perform extravagant, ritualized combats. This art requires martial skill and a flair for performance, so most battleflowers are envoys, operatives, solarians, or soldiers.

It would be really odd if a manufacturer couldn't make the sort of weapon that their primary customer was famous for using: old fashioned melee weapons.

Community / Forums / Starfinder / Rules Questions / Manufacturer question All Messageboards

Want to post a reply? Sign in.
Recent threads in Rules Questions