ways to get orc hewer / goblic cleaver as a catfolk


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i'm looking for a way to get orc hewer/goblin cleaver as a catfolk, feats traits multiclass. whatever u got.

Prerequisites: Str 13, Cleave, Power Attack, dwarf.

Benefit: When using Cleave or Great Cleave, if your initial attack hits, you may take your additional attacks against any creature smaller than you that you threaten; your targets need not be adjacent to one another. Additional attacks you make against humanoids (goblinoid) gain a +2 circumstance bonus on attack roll

Prerequisites: Str 13, Cleave, Goblin Cleaver, Power Attack, dwarf.

Benefit: This feat functions as Goblin Cleaver, but your additional attacks can be made against creatures your size or smaller. In addition, any such attacks that you make against humanoids (orc) gain a +2 circumstance bonus on attack rolls.


unless the GM wave away some rules, the only way i see is reincarnation spell. (but then you lose most if not all the Catfolk abilities)

try to talk to your gm to see if he would allow you to do so if you can count as a dwarf in some way.

maybe if he allow you to pick racial heritage (dwarf) -a human feat.

or since this is a sort of technic dwarves specialize in, if you can take it in case you are adopted by a dwarves.

he might also allow if you buy and use this item.

ether way need GM approval.


Do you specifically need these feats?

CLEAVING FINISH is kinda-like Cleave, but doesn't have the adjacent requirement.


Ask your GM is the easiest. Make up some story of either being raised by dwarves or having goblinoids as enemies for your home tribe/town.


its a cleaver i already have every cleave feat on my to get list. i'm a catfolk for nimble striker so i can cleave and lunge without taking -4 ac i just recently saw these two feats which are very nice for when i get to level 12 of sweeping strikes, its basically a standard action whirlwind attack if i have the dwarf feats.


vhok wrote:
its a cleaver i already have every cleave feat on my to get list. i'm a catfolk for nimble striker so i can cleave and lunge without taking -4 ac i just recently saw these two feats which are very nice for when i get to level 12 of sweeping strikes, its basically a standard action whirlwind attack if i have the dwarf feats.

notice, it only changes where your targets can be (as in they don't have to stand next to each other.)

you'd need great cleave to get more then one extra attack and you must hit each target before getting to try against the next. also useless against creatures bigger then you.

stress on those limits and your GM might consider allowing you to take it, it's a nice set of feats, but not so overly broken to disallow non dwarves to get them with the right background.


zza ni wrote:
vhok wrote:
its a cleaver i already have every cleave feat on my to get list. i'm a catfolk for nimble striker so i can cleave and lunge without taking -4 ac i just recently saw these two feats which are very nice for when i get to level 12 of sweeping strikes, its basically a standard action whirlwind attack if i have the dwarf feats.

notice, it only changes where your targets can be (as in they don't have to stand next to each other.)

you'd need great cleave to get more then one extra attack and you must hit each target before getting to try against the next. also useless against creatures bigger then you.

stress on those limits and your GM might consider allowing you to take it, it's a nice set of feats, but not so overly broken to disallow non dwarves to get them with the right background.

Sweeping Strike (Ex) (Antihero's Handbook pg. 16): The vigilante gains Cleave as a bonus feat. At 6th level, he gains Great Cleave as a bonus feat. He does not need to meet the prerequisites for these feats. At 12th level, while using Great Cleave, he no longer has to hit a target in order to make an additional attack against a foe that is adjacent to that target. Only an avenger vigilante can select this talent.

Your wrong.


i stand corrected.

but i got a good excuse - i made a search for "sweeping strikes" as it appeared in the post above (..." level 12 of sweeping strikes...").

first i searched for 'sweeping' in the feats page. then when i couldn't find it i searched the whole phrase in all of the archive of nethys site (didn't bother with only 'sweeping' or 'strikes' as it would have been a flood of results). As i couldn't find it even then i thought it was a way to describe the fighting style rather then an ability.

so in a way i was right. there is nothing "sweeping strikes' would help with.

'sweeping strike' is another matter..

The Exchange

1. There is no Paizo-published way for a Catfolk to get a feat that requires being a dwarf.

2. If your GM does allow you to take the feats (maybe by making up a feat equivalent to the human-only Racial Heritage), make sure you are on the same page regarding missed attacks. Goblin Cleaver, etc. allows you to take attacks against non-adjacent targets. But the 12th-level ability of Sweeping Strike says the vigilante “no longer has to hit a target in order to make an additional attack against a foe that is adjacent to that target.” I would personally say that having Goblin Cleaver overrides the adjacency requirement; just don’t let it be an argument when it happens.

3. Please try to avoid language like “you’re wrong” on the messageboards when pointing out something that was missed by a poster. It is unnecessarily hostile, especially when ending a post with those words in a standalone paragraph.


Belafon wrote:
1. There is no Paizo-published way for a Catfolk to get a feat that requires being a dwarf.

What about a TRAINING weapon and a UMD check to emulate a race (Dwarf) on every relevant attack?

(I don't know if this works, I'm genuinely asking)


MrCharisma wrote:
Belafon wrote:
1. There is no Paizo-published way for a Catfolk to get a feat that requires being a dwarf.

What about a TRAINING weapon and a UMD check to emulate a race (Dwarf) on every relevant attack?

(I don't know if this works, I'm genuinely asking)

i don't think it will work.

from the link you posted:

" That feat cannot be used as a prerequisite for any other feats and functions for the wielder only if she meets its prerequisites"

one being able to convince the weapon he is a dwarf or not is irrelevant. he would get the feat anyway. but it won't work if he does not meet the prerequisite. the feat is the one that doesn't work, not the weapon's power.

say if you got the power attack feat but not enough str then you simply can not use that feat, it's a known faq of what happen when you have a feat but lose it's requirement, this item power seem to follow the same rule.

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