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I would love more Carter/Widow banter, they make for a fun combo
also LOL at "Not you Stark"
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It was a Quinnjet. We've known them to be in space twice already in the MCU (Captain Marvel and Thor: Ragnarok)
Okay, overall this delivered really well. Fun fight, not too much filler, really good use of all the characters present, with some awesome character chemistry. I even liked Strange in this.
Also, in case anyone is confused about Gamora being in this episode after we only saw her very briefly in this series: apparently this series was originally supposed to be 10 episodes, and the "What If Gamora Stopped Thanos" (or whatever it was supposed to be) episode didn't get made.
I would love more Carter/Widow banter, they make for a fun combo
Seconded and thirded. I also think Peggy would be a much better friend to Natasha than Steve was--indeed, looks like she was, given Peggy already knew a lot more about Natasha at the time of TWS when Steve still felt like he barely knew her and was only just learning to trust her (and, mind, Nat was only just learning to trust Steve). Also Peggy wouldn't eat Natasha's tear-stained peanut butter sandwich right in front of her.
But I would pay lots of money just for a whole Captain Carter-Natasha series. I loved that Peggy was also far more flirtatious with Nat. :) (In a playful way, I don't think there was anything serious going on there.)
also LOL at "Not you Stark"
I hope it's simply coincidental, but the creators of this show seem to hate Tony. I mean, yes, that line is somewhat funny, and should have been hilarious, but after several episodes of watching him die repeatedly, it also felt a little bit cruel. Though I guess if he had gone with them he would have just died again?
Stark has his issues, but man, the MCU wouldn't even exist without him, you'd think there'd at least be one version of him in these multiverses that wasn't just so... pummeled as they did to him. On a more positive spin, maybe since he was the hero of Endgame they wanted to give more play about what things were like without him?
LOVED that Star Lord T'Challa saw right through Killmonger. Standard-upbringing T'Challa trusted him too much (in several universes), but T'Challa raised by the Ravagers knows a con man when he sees one. At the same time, he was still totally in character... just not fooled.
Had a roller coaster of feelings about Peggy's ending. I am of the apparently unpopular opinion that Peggy is more interesting and much better off without Steve. Plus the whole idea of her refusing to move on--the whole POINT of Agent Carter Season One was Peggy learning to move on. She moved on in six months, and started dating a year later. I thought Steve constantly pining over Peggy (TWELVE FREAKING YEARS AFTER KISSING HER ONCE) was pathetic and was terrible, negative character development, and I don't like it any better in reverse. So I didn't like her pining, or saying something Peggy Carter would NEVER F#&*ING SAY about deserving a happy ending. And I didn't like that, at first, they seemed to suggest she was going to have a happy ever after reunion with him.
But then I remembered that the set up for her whole scene was the parallel to the beginning of CA:TWS, and then I realized f~$@, there's a dang good chance that's not Steve, that's the Winter Sold- er, Stomper. And because I do love Peggy, and because in TFA, yes, their romance was nice for a minute, man I am just devastated for her, and yet intrigued by what story may come (given they've said Captain Carter will return in Season 2 if it gets greenlit)... yeah, even if it means their romance ultimately resumes.
That's the thing about What if? there are so many of them that you really want to go back to and see what happens next.
I think Spider-Girl is the only one I ever saw spin-off into their own series.
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A bit less grim than I prefer, but I thoroughly enjoyed the season finale, and all its varied happy endings.
One observation….
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I'm just tired of the story of "Cap misses Person He/She Knew for Five Minutes for the Next Twelve Years." I don't relate to it, I'm sorry, especially since I guess my real life connection is seeing people I love not process loss of a loved one well at all and had it really f~&+ up their life. I'd like an example of a hero who shows what healthy grief looks like to serve as inspiration for viewers. Just once. Anyway, personal experiences aside, can I just please be allowed to be tired of it?, Please? I mean, it's just an opinion, I am just venting, and you're allowed to disagree. You're welcome to say you disagree. I just want to be allowed to be sick of it, and say that I am sick of it out loud. That's all.
As for the Stones... I think some of the stones cannot be touched with bare hands--Power Stone is too powerful, Reality Stone warps your reality. But no one seems to have negative effects, say, being near Mind Stone or Time Stone (as long as they aren't being used against you). Clint has no problem handling the Soul Stone in Endgame.
Alternate explanation: since there is some version of Natasha's soul in SoulWorld, it resonates with her and so she isn't affected by it.
Feelings are complicated.
This series' plot was complicated.
I liked it, but I'll be glad to stop watching compressed storylines.
All I know is some we need to have "What if the MCU meets up with Into the Spiderverse?" (Well that and I want May (Mayday) Parker to show up some how...)
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I think the only thing I didn't like about this episode was right at the end, when...
It just makes no sense. It was supposed to make me feel good, but it was just dumb. There's nothing to indicate that Fury is able to discern that this is an alternate version of Natasha and that she's also an ally just because she kicked a dude in the head.
I would have loved the scene if he simply said something like, "I thought you were dead!" and she replied "It's a long story," and the scene would have been fine. And people thought dead suddenly turning up alive is very fitting for as both a spy and a superhero trope!
apparently this series was originally supposed to be 10 episodes, and the "What If Gamora Stopped Thanos" (or whatever it was supposed to be) episode didn't get made.
Any indication why it didn't get made?
apparently this series was originally supposed to be 10 episodes, and the "What If Gamora Stopped Thanos" (or whatever it was supposed to be) episode didn't get made.Any indication why it didn't get made?
COVID complications apparently. It's still planned for Season 2
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apparently this series was originally supposed to be 10 episodes, and the "What If Gamora Stopped Thanos" (or whatever it was supposed to be) episode didn't get made.Any indication why it didn't get made?
Without making the effort of looking it up, they had begun work on this before the pandemic. So my guess is perhaps once COVID hit, it affected their production schedule much as it did other shows--I'd guess it'd impact things less than a live action show, but if, say, you need to fly a voice actor to the studio and they won't or can't travel, then you have to put things on hold. They opted to keep things tighter to release it than wait to finish the one episode with stuff missing. Again, just a guess.
I would suspect it was more an issue with the animators than with the voice cast.
VO artists and voice casts of most major shows were telling stories of how the production company drop shipped them Microphones and Mixing equipment and assisted them in making home studios in whatever space they had available - and these are shows that don't have Disney budgets.
The animators working from home on the other hand poses storage, upload and render issues that are more challenging to resolve than by simply throwing money and equipment at it. Reducing the total order to streamline that process would make sense from a resource allocation standpoint.
Yeah I'm sad about that too. I'd like to have seen that. But there's plenty of other What If spinoffs they can do down the pike...(At least I hope so!)
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Anyone tried the new 'Marvel: Avengers' video game on Xbox/PC/Steam/PS4/PS5/EverythingUnderTheSun? specifically the Black Panther / Wakanda story arc where T'Challah takes us through the caves where he trained for Black Panther as a youth?! where they show the origin story of Wakanda / vibranium?! wow! really LOVE the story content in this game! and the art is just amazing...
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Anyone tried the new 'Marvel: Avengers' video game on Xbox/PC/Steam/PS4/PS5/EverythingUnderTheSun? specifically the Black Panther / Wakanda story arc where T'Challah takes us through the caves where he trained for Black Panther as a youth?! where they show the origin story of Wakanda / vibranium?! wow! really LOVE the story content in this game! and the art is just amazing...
I've owned it from the get-go. War for Wakanda is what expansions for the game should have been, as compared to Kate Bishop and Hawkeye's stuff. But this isn't the place to geek out over it :)
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So Looks like this made an impression
I'm assuming that Captain Carter is joining the Multiversal Avengers story that Jason Aaron is working on...but don't quote me on that.
Multiversal Avengers? There should be a rule that you can’t announce your similar event comic until the other guy stops publishing their version of it.
Dirtypool,
This has been in the works for a while. Basically there are a multiversal group of villains led by Doctor Doom aka Doom Supreme who are going around KILLING Avengers on different Earths/realities. Supposedly one of the 616 crew, Robbie Reyes, will join up to make this group and I think Captain Carter MIGHT be joining this group.
The Multiversal Avengers may have been in the works for a while but the Multiversal Justice League has been running for almost a full year now.
True. I don't dispute Justice Incarnate aka Justice League Incarnate has been in the business longer. I just thought I'd provide context for the fact we got this image...and I think it might relate to the comics more than a show.
I wasn’t disagreeing with your take, or questioning your motives for posting it. I was just expressing dismay that yet again we’ve got overlapping approaches to effectively the same story.
Ah. My bad. At any rate, I look forward to season 2 in 2022.
So it looks like I was wrong
I thought you knew it was a standalone series and were suggesting it was building toward including her into the multiverse avengers thing.
No...I was suggesting BEFORE that she was going to be showcased IN the Multiverse Avengers thing...before I was disabused by it/proven wrong.
Ah yeah, the image accompanied an announcement of the solo title.
Yep. That. So I was wrong but at least we get some more info.
Well no actually, we had that information yesterday.
Now I'm confused...
We didn’t learn more information, you learned correct information a day later than the rest of us.
...ookkaaayy....
What is the point of claiming that the article you posted on Friday contains “new info” when it’s the same info that was available to all of us on Thursday?
I'm just going to move over here and pretend today isn't last week... Also more What if would be nice.
It certainly will be when it premieres in 2022
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Season 2 just dropped the first episode, which was great. I love how even knowing the title and arguably main plot from it, they manage to go in such unique directions. I was not expecting a hard bitten noir cyberpunk plot that strongly evoked Blade Runner.
They're releasing 1 episode a day until all 9 are out, so a nice bonus for holiday viewing.