Clarity on Handwraps and Monk Stances


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Grand Lodge

As the text is multilayered and a bit complex I am trying to wrap my head around the monk. Are the strikes associated with most stances, primarily tiger and wolf, still considered unarmed attacks and therefore benefit from handwraps? I would think so since it seems the monk would be gimped if not. If that is true, would that mean a monk with +1 striking handwraps using Tiger Slash would be doing 4d8 slashing?
1d8 (for Tiger Claw) + 1d8 (for handwraps} + 2d8 (for Tiger Slash)


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Tiger Stance wrote:
You enter the stance of a tiger and can make tiger claw attacks. These deal 1d8 slashing damage; are in the brawling group; and have the agile, finesse, nonlethal, and unarmed traits. On a critical success with your tiger claws, if you deal damage, the target takes 1d4 persistent bleed damage.

I believe all monk stances that aren't specifically weapon based stances have the unarmed trait. If you find one that doesn't, then I guess yeah, it wouldn't be considered unarmed. Though, again, I don't think that exists.


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber

Yes, monk unarmed attacks are unarmed attacks.

Grand Lodge

Yes - 4 damage dice.

It looks to me like the monk version of the fighter feat Power Attack. That only gives plus 1 dice for an extra action - but you could yield a d12 weapon for best effect. And you can take it at first level. It goes up to +2 and +3 dice as well - albeit at higher level for fighter compared to monk.


Tiger Stance

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You enter the stance of a tiger and can make tiger claw attacks. These deal 1d8 slashing damage; are in the brawling group; and have the agile, finesse, nonlethal, and unarmed traits. On a critical success with your tiger claws, if you deal damage, the target takes 1d4 persistent bleed damage.

Yes. Tiger Claw attacks are explicitly unarmed attacks.

All of the Monk stances that have specific attacks detail the traits that the attacks have. If "unarmed" is in the list, then... well... they're unarmed attacks and Handwraps apply.


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If I am reading things right, it looks like the handwraps also apply to all of your unarmed attacks. Not just the ones you make with a fist. So it would also apply the increased damage when using Ancestry unarmed attacks too. Things like Catfolk Saberteeth or Lizardfolk Tail Whip


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber

Yes, handwraps apply to all unarmed attacks.


breithauptclan wrote:
If I am reading things right, it looks like the handwraps also apply to all of your unarmed attacks. Not just the ones you make with a fist. So it would also apply the increased damage when using Ancestry unarmed attacks too. Things like Catfolk Saberteeth or Lizardfolk Tail Whip

Correct, this is - as far as I know - the only way to increase their damage.

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