If a character is a level 19 fighter + level 1 Softstrike Monk and is also a VMC cavalier (order of the hammer), is the order of the hammer unarmed strike damage affected by the softstrike "nonlethal strikes" ability?
...the cavalier’s unarmed strikes deal more nonlethal damage than usual; she is treated as having a number of monk levels equal to her cavalier level for the purpose of determining how much nonlethal damage her unarmed strikes deal.
A softstrike monk focuses on blows that do not inflict deadly harm. When a softstrike monk deals nonlethal damage with his unarmed strikes, his monk level is treated as 4 levels higher for the purposes of determining the damage he deals (to a maximum of 4d8 at 20th level for a Medium monk).
I would say yes but how many cavalier levels do you count as having via variant multiclassing.
I would say yes but how many cavalier levels do you count as having via variant multiclassing.
Order Ability: At 7th level, he gains the 2nd-level ability of his chosen order, treating his character level as his effective cavalier level.
I would say yes but how many cavalier levels do you count as having via variant multiclassing.Order Ability: At 7th level, he gains the 2nd-level ability of his chosen order, treating his character level as his effective cavalier level.
Thank you I'm sorry I hadn't read the VMC personally which is on me but yeah I think it all should work.
Yes they stack, all it requires is that his unarmed strikes be used to deal non-lethal damage for the cavalier ability to grant monk levels. If I remember correctly, you can't get more than one effective monk level per level, so that monk level and the overlapping vmc cavalier level won't add together.
You should take Andirifkhu's fiendish obedience with the guy, his enemies will never know what hit them.
So this basically cheeses monk unarmed strike damage progression onto a fighter? And because of Softtouch Monk archetype it's an enhanced progression?
Well honestly, if I were the GM I would tell you you're out of luck and refer you to:
It is probably a good idea to use either this variant system or normal multiclassing, but it’s possible for the two systems to be used together. In a game using both systems, a character can’t take levels in the secondary class she gains from this variant.
And say, this is one of the corner cases where allowing both VMC and standard multiclassing results in unintended consequences.
Of note, the description of the Softtouch monk seems to have an error stating the damage scales up to 4d8 for a medium monk, but normally it's only 2d8 for medium and 4d8 for large. I think it's just supposed to treat you as 4 levels higher than you actually are.
Alternatively, if you take the Focused Weapon Advanced Weapon Training option you get a monk like damage progression for your chosen weapon, it just wont be 4 levels above your character level.