| Githsarrin |
I know that this sounds silly but I was just curious about this combination. And even if this is an option what are your opinions? If the Barbarian enters into a stance prior to raging, do they remain in that stance? I don't see anything that says that they cant. Also, if they have moment of clarity, they could potentially enter a rage, use moment of clarity and enter their stance? I would just like to know any of your thoughts about this if possible. Thanks.
| MEATSHED |
You can enter a stance during rage as you normally can to my knowledge, stances don't have concentrate, not even the focus spell stances. There isn't any rules to my knowledge that would cause a barbarian to drop their stance for entering rage, so I'm assuming they just stay in their stance. You could also go animal instinct and skip over stances all together if you wanted.
| HumbleGamer |
I also can't find anything which says that stances require concentration.
Focus spells on the other hand are spells, whether they are stances or not.
For example, let's compare lay on hand and clinging shadows stance:
Either stances requires 1 somatic and have a school trait ( Necromancy for lay on hand and Evocation for Clinging Shadows stance ).
So they should either trigger AoO when used ( somatic trait ) and also require concentration in order to be used ( school ).
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I also can't find anything which says that stances require concentration.
Focus spells on the other hand are spells, whether they are stances or not.
For example, let's compare lay on hand and clinging shadows stance:
Either stances requires 1 somatic and have a school trait ( Necromancy for lay on hand and Evocation for Clinging Shadows stance ).
So they should either trigger AoO when used ( somatic trait ) and also require concentration in order to be used ( school ).
Spells without the Verbal component do not have the Concentrate trait and thus can be used while Raging.
| HumbleGamer |
HumbleGamer wrote:Spells without the Verbal component do not have the Concentrate trait and thus can be used while Raging.I also can't find anything which says that stances require concentration.
Focus spells on the other hand are spells, whether they are stances or not.
For example, let's compare lay on hand and clinging shadows stance:
Either stances requires 1 somatic and have a school trait ( Necromancy for lay on hand and Evocation for Clinging Shadows stance ).
So they should either trigger AoO when used ( somatic trait ) and also require concentration in order to be used ( school ).
Oh great, thank you.
That's way more stretchy.| Darksol the Painbringer |
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I know that this sounds silly but I was just curious about this combination. And even if this is an option what are your opinions? If the Barbarian enters into a stance prior to raging, do they remain in that stance? I don't see anything that says that they cant. Also, if they have moment of clarity, they could potentially enter a rage, use moment of clarity and enter their stance? I would just like to know any of your thoughts about this if possible. Thanks.
Works awesome with Animal Instinct Barbarians, since they usually get a natural attack which is unarmed and is usable with Monk abilities that require unarmed attacks.
Can work with other Instinct Barbarians as well, such as Dragon or Giant, so long as your Stance choice includes a non-agile unarmed attack. I mean, Dragon Instinct with Dragon Style is pretty flavorful, though IMO going Monk into Barbarian Dragon Instinct MCD might be better for you in that case.
The biggest problem is that trying to both Rage and go into a Stance burns 2 of your 3 actions on the first rounds of combat, meaning you're not doing anything within the 1st round of combat outside of maybe Intimidate, or making a single attack if enemies manage to close the distance on you. With the Flurry of Blows feat and Haste, you might be able to make good work of it though. You'll be golden for (most likely) the rest of the combat though, and you'll be hitting pretty hard with the Barbarian damage boosts while having some of the neat Monk abilities.
| HammerJack |
There's a bit of a "yes, but" there. Jalmeri Heavenseeker is Uncommon, so you'll need to talk to your GM first. If your looks at the archetype when you bring it up and reads the Heaven's Thunder feat, there's a decent chance they will realize that feat is clearly a broken mess as is and disallow it or only allow it with modification.