Honestly I don’t think it would make much difference in power with respect to the abilities themselves, but I hands down personally think it’s one of the stronger Magus options to just straight up go spell MCD.
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Not broken, but definitely feels almost necessary to get more spell slots however you can. Spell battery familiar, ring of wizardry, MC... like you said, magus wants to be using slotted spells. If not for damage, for the debuffs. It also wants some buff spells (Haste, True Strike). The base class doesn’t provide enough slots to do that, so you MC.
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In practice both myself and unicore were disappointed with mc caster for Magus but impressed by mc into a martial dedication. Him mauler and myself fighter.
This is primarily due to equipment offering spell options for Magus (staff, wands, scrolls, etc) along with core Magus feats increasing spell options for the Magus itself and you can take feats to gain new strike actions to use with spell strike that also helps with it's general martial performance.
Take this for what you will. But I see no reason to MC caster with a Magus.
In practice both myself and unicore were disappointed with mc caster for Magus but impressed by mc into a martial dedication. Him mauler and myself fighter.
This is primarily due to equipment offering spell options for Magus (staff, wands, scrolls, etc) along with core Magus feats increasing spell options for the Magus itself and you can take feats to gain new strike actions to use with spell strike that also helps with it's general martial performance.
Take this for what you will. But I see no reason to MC caster with a Magus.
I saw this the other way: with the 4 slots preventing staff use when you lose low level slots and my general dislike on spending cash for disposable spell items I found MC caster as a requirement for those utility and buff spells I wanted for the class.
Now that isn't to say MC into a martial isn't tempting too: Personally I liked MC wizard 1st then MC fighter. I did flip that for a sustaining steel as they felt more martial than caster.
In practice both myself and unicore were disappointed with mc caster for Magus but impressed by mc into a martial dedication. Him mauler and myself fighter.
This is primarily due to equipment offering spell options for Magus (staff, wands, scrolls, etc) along with core Magus feats increasing spell options for the Magus itself and you can take feats to gain new strike actions to use with spell strike that also helps with it's general martial performance.
Take this for what you will. But I see no reason to MC caster with a Magus.
I saw this the other way: with the 4 slots preventing staff use when you lose low level slots and my general dislike on spending cash for disposable spell items I found MC caster as a requirement for those utility and buff spells I wanted for the class.
Now that isn't to say MC into a martial isn't tempting too: Personally I liked MC wizard 1st then MC fighter. I did flip that for a sustaining steel as they felt more martial than caster.
What that tells me if Magus is either right in the sweet spot. Or that no matter what they do. Someone is going to be mad about how the Magus is.
For me, I play sorcerer specifically because I don't care about utility slots.
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In practice both myself and unicore were disappointed with mc caster for Magus but impressed by mc into a martial dedication. Him mauler and myself fighter.
This is primarily due to equipment offering spell options for Magus (staff, wands, scrolls, etc) along with core Magus feats increasing spell options for the Magus itself and you can take feats to gain new strike actions to use with spell strike that also helps with it's general martial performance.
Take this for what you will. But I see no reason to MC caster with a Magus.
I saw this the other way: with the 4 slots preventing staff use when you lose low level slots and my general dislike on spending cash for disposable spell items I found MC caster as a requirement for those utility and buff spells I wanted for the class.
Now that isn't to say MC into a martial isn't tempting too: Personally I liked MC wizard 1st then MC fighter. I did flip that for a sustaining steel as they felt more martial than caster.
What that tells me if Magus is either right in the sweet spot. Or that no matter what they do. Someone is going to be mad about how the Magus is.
For me, I play sorcerer specifically because I don't care about utility slots.
I disagree and agree at the same time.
Yes you can't please everyone because there always be person wo will be salty about anytching because they want and will be salty. Or just slightly don't like what it is ( me with dnd5e and how basic and limiting it is)However it doesn't matter Magus can't be better than it is already, Trying to force magus into focus spells(that would work better with Kineticist) or other sheningas is taking away from what it essencially is, Class are suppoused to be simillar to 1e where the basic and core of class is, you can't rly call witch a witch if you remove hexes and patron and enchange it with something else.
If Magus is destined to be bad like swashbuckler I guess it is what it is.
I mean, the devs themselves have put an option in the survey about removing spell slots in favor of more focus abilities and martial feats...
This has been brought up before, but worth repeating. A focus only Magus would likely have focus cantrips and spells. Focus cantrips to represent empowering your weapon with magic (aka 5e's booming and greenflame blade like cantrips). Focus spells for more flashy encounter abilities. I don't think a focus only Magus should resemble the Monk or Ranger. The Magus should have more focus abilities which is why their HP is lower than Monks/Rangers
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Yeah. Tho' having magus spellstrike be in fact specific spells like GFB would be kind of disappointing, but that debate happened already.