Would an extra floating action help?

[Ravingdork]

I'm seeing lots of complaints that the summoner and eidolon are currently weaker than more traditional options due to shared action economy and hit points.

Would a class ability that adds a floating g action each round help solve some of the issues?

(Said ability would still limit the summoner and eidolon to 3 actions per turn as normal, excepting effects like haste.)

[PossibleCabbage]

I want more options at higher levels like "Act Together" and "Tandem Move".

[KrispyXIV]

Ravingdork wrote:

I'm seeing lots of complaints that the summoner and eidolon are currently weaker than more traditional options due to shared action economy and hit points.

Would a class ability that adds a floating g action each round help solve some of the issues?

(Said ability would still limit the summoner and eidolon to 3 actions per turn as normal, excepting effects like haste.)

What about something like this -

*****

Act Together
Free Action
Trigger - You begin perform an action or activity that your Eidolon is not also performing (IE, its not a Tandem Action)
You and your Eidolon Act as one. Either before your action or afterwards, your Eidolon may use a different action.

*****

In other words, a version of Act Together that allows you to also do things like cast Spells including Summoning Creatures, and your Eidolon is still able to act.

I don't think that 4 actions a turn is an issue, so much as you're so completely limited with what you can do with them.

[Ravingdork]

Ravingdork wrote:

Said ability would still limit the summoner and eidolon to 3 actions per turn as normal, excepting effects like haste.

Just to clarify, I mean a 3-action cap for the summoner, and then a separate 3-action cap for the eidolon (totaling no more than 4 actions between them).

[Dubious Scholar]

KrispyXIV wrote:

Ravingdork wrote:

I'm seeing lots of complaints that the summoner and eidolon are currently weaker than more traditional options due to shared action economy and hit points.

Would a class ability that adds a floating g action each round help solve some of the issues?

(Said ability would still limit the summoner and eidolon to 3 actions per turn as normal, excepting effects like haste.)

What about something like this -

*****

Act Together
Free Action
Trigger - You begin perform an action or activity that your Eidolon is not also performing (IE, its not a Tandem Action)
You and your Eidolon Act as one. Either before your action or afterwards, your Eidolon may use a different action.

*****

In other words, a version of Act Together that allows you to also do things like cast Spells including Summoning Creatures, and your Eidolon is still able to act.

I don't think that 4 actions a turn is an issue, so much as you're so completely limited with what you can do with them.

I like this wording for getting around the can't spellcast problem, though I think it needs tweaked to clear up that you are allowed to both Stride, etc.