PoW: Umbral Blade Questions


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Path of War, Pg. 151 wrote:

Shadowblind (Su)

The umbral blade pulls concealing shadow to bend perception around him, and may hide in plain sight in areas of dim illumination or darker. This allows the umbral blade to roll a Stealth check in dim illumination or darker, even while being observed.

Does this ability actually DO anything? I thought I could already use stealth in dim illumination.

Path of War, Pg. 151 wrote:

Terror in the Dark (Su)

The umbral blade’s power lies in his ability to strike with shadow and fear both, rending mind and body with his actions to feed the entity the terror it craves. The umbral blade may use the Stealth skill to hide as a swift action.

How does this work? Stealth is a non-action used while moving (except for sniping). This ability doesn't remove the movement clause... So what does it do?


Hide in plain sight allows you to enter stealth without breaking line of sight first. A huge advantage! As for entering stealth as a swift action that would allow you to move, attack then stealth. The enemy could attack your square but would have a 50/50 miss chance.


Speaker for the Dead wrote:
Hide in plain sight allows you to enter stealth without breaking line of sight first. A huge advantage!

But dim light gives concealment, which means line of sight is already broken.


Ed Girallon Poe wrote:
Speaker for the Dead wrote:
Hide in plain sight allows you to enter stealth without breaking line of sight first. A huge advantage!
But dim light gives concealment, which means line of sight is already broken.

All you care about is whether you are in dim light or darkness. So even if they have darkvision or low-light you can still Hide In Plain Sight. This ability is for defeating that.


Combine it with Lurker in Darkness to also foil Blindsight, Tremorsense, and the like.


KahnyaGnorc wrote:
Combine it with Lurker in Darkness to also foil Blindsight, Tremorsense, and the like.

Wouldn't darkvision also classify as "an unusual form of sensory perception"? Meaning I wouldn't need shadowblind in the first place?


Ed Girallon Poe wrote:
KahnyaGnorc wrote:
Combine it with Lurker in Darkness to also foil Blindsight, Tremorsense, and the like.
Wouldn't darkvision also classify as "an unusual form of sensory perception"? Meaning I wouldn't need shadowblind in the first place?

Depends on your DM. Darkvision is far more common than the senses listed in Lurker so it's fairly normal.

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