some odd idea to build an Elegist character


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Hello, here is the things, i'm building a character mainly on the Elegist archetype of the skald, it will actually serve as a reserve char on a campaign i'm playing.

and... well i have some idea to play the char because i find them cool in my point of view.

so i want the character to be a singer and dancer wich go well with the skald class, and a half orc.
the Elegist archetype is taken because... i like the idea behind it singing mornfull stuff wich give life to an emotion.

well hum, so here is the based char

FOR : 8
DEX : 15
CON : 12
INT : 13
WIS : 10
CHA : 16 (+2 from half orc)

with it i'll take those orc trait :

night vison
Intimidating
Orc blood
sacred tatoo
Pariah

plus i have two more trait :

Self taught scholar
bloody minded (i'm thinking of changing this one i'm not sure)

i also took two drawback/flaws to gain two feats.

where we actually are in the game, i would begin with this char at lvl 7.

Here come the part where i'm confused of what to make...
i plan to take some stuff and deep while not having my phantom being cripple by a lack of lvl, so for this i plan on taking the "Phantom ally" feats wich if i understand it well count the lvl of the phantom as 4 lvl higher to catch with the lvl of the character.

I want the character to have two one handed weapon (so using TWF), but having something like the bladed scarf... so i looked around and found the bladed scarf dancer archetype from the magus.

And i was wondering what could be the best idea... taking another deep of two lvl as a rogue to gain finesse training, +1d6 sneak attack dmg, evasion, and the rogue talent.

(The first build test i did took a deep [dump] of 3 lvl as rogue ... and i was comfuse on the part that the third rogue lvl was useless for me because finesse training was only eligible with WF compatible weapon.)

it would make somthing like this :

lvl 1 : Magus - bladed scarf proficiency/bladed scarf weapon focus feats/canny defence
+the spell and stuff but i think of using the arcane pool only to make my weapon as +1
-dazzling display feats
-combat expertise feats
-TWF feats

lvl 2 : Rogue - finesse training (so dex to touch)/+1d6 sneak attack/trapfinding

lvl 3 : Rogue - Evasion/Rogue talent (Strong impression not sure about this one i can take it as a feats)
-improved trip feats

lvl 4 : Elegist - Melancholic Apparition/scroll scrib/bardique knowledge/magic trick
-Dex go to 16

lvl 5 : Elegist - steady hearted (modifie well versed)/ versatile performence
-Phantom ally (he is now a lvl 5 phantom, and not lvl 2)

lvl 6 : Elegist

lvl 7 : Elegist - Uncanny dodge (i don't think it stack with the evasion from rogue)
-Combat reflex

so that's the last version that came out of my char... im' pretty pleased with it... but i'm not sure if i understand it all correctly.
+ i'm still pretty new to pathfinder so i don't know if everyhing work well this way... or if there is any other possible build wich might be fun or go with the idea.

sorry for the long post and thanks reading/helping


What if, instead, you did:

S13 D15+2 C14 I10 W10 CH14

For racial traits, take Chain Fighter.

Then go full Elegist. Pick up Weapon Finesse and Power Attack.

Fight with a Chain Whip with Power Attack, then you have much simpler character, does everything you want it to do, and you don't wash down levels for no reason.


Wielding a bladed scarf as a one-handed weapon is a start towards TWF but not the whole thing. You're also going to want the two-weapon fighting feat itself, and a means of making one of the bladed scarfs a light weapon - the effortless lace magic item probably helps with that last but check with your GM, some may insist that your being able to wield this two-handed weapon as a one-handed weapon isn't enough to allow effortless lace to apply.

Or you can do as Secret Wizard suggests and abandon the idea of TWF.


hey thanks for the idea, i understand the things to take power attack, and i already have fought and even tried other weapon,like the flying blade, and go with stuf like Whirlwind Attack but i wouldn't have acces to trip feats before long. (and it was kind of a mess)

with the chain fighter racial traits,it kind of break the idea of an oriental/chinese (but half orc) battle dancer that i have in mind. and dumping the charisma is hum...i find it strange for a charisma based classe.
i would lose quite a bite of round in my phantom invocation. and quite a bit of spell too.
but thanks for the idea Secret Wizard.

i'll go check with my GM for the effortless lace item.
thanks Avr

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