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hey thanks for the idea, i understand the things to take power attack, and i already have fought and even tried other weapon,like the flying blade, and go with stuf like Whirlwind Attack but i wouldn't have acces to trip feats before long. (and it was kind of a mess)

with the chain fighter racial traits,it kind of break the idea of an oriental/chinese (but half orc) battle dancer that i have in mind. and dumping the charisma is hum...i find it strange for a charisma based classe.
i would lose quite a bite of round in my phantom invocation. and quite a bit of spell too.
but thanks for the idea Secret Wizard.

i'll go check with my GM for the effortless lace item.
thanks Avr

Hello, here is the things, i'm building a character mainly on the Elegist archetype of the skald, it will actually serve as a reserve char on a campaign i'm playing.

and... well i have some idea to play the char because i find them cool in my point of view.

so i want the character to be a singer and dancer wich go well with the skald class, and a half orc.
the Elegist archetype is taken because... i like the idea behind it singing mornfull stuff wich give life to an emotion.

well hum, so here is the based char

FOR : 8
DEX : 15
CON : 12
INT : 13
WIS : 10
CHA : 16 (+2 from half orc)

with it i'll take those orc trait :

night vison
Intimidating
Orc blood
sacred tatoo
Pariah

plus i have two more trait :

Self taught scholar
bloody minded (i'm thinking of changing this one i'm not sure)

i also took two drawback/flaws to gain two feats.

where we actually are in the game, i would begin with this char at lvl 7.

Here come the part where i'm confused of what to make...
i plan to take some stuff and deep while not having my phantom being cripple by a lack of lvl, so for this i plan on taking the "Phantom ally" feats wich if i understand it well count the lvl of the phantom as 4 lvl higher to catch with the lvl of the character.

I want the character to have two one handed weapon (so using TWF), but having something like the bladed scarf... so i looked around and found the bladed scarf dancer archetype from the magus.

And i was wondering what could be the best idea... taking another deep of two lvl as a rogue to gain finesse training, +1d6 sneak attack dmg, evasion, and the rogue talent.

(The first build test i did took a deep [dump] of 3 lvl as rogue ... and i was comfuse on the part that the third rogue lvl was useless for me because finesse training was only eligible with WF compatible weapon.)

it would make somthing like this :

lvl 1 : Magus - bladed scarf proficiency/bladed scarf weapon focus feats/canny defence
+the spell and stuff but i think of using the arcane pool only to make my weapon as +1
-dazzling display feats
-combat expertise feats
-TWF feats

lvl 2 : Rogue - finesse training (so dex to touch)/+1d6 sneak attack/trapfinding

lvl 3 : Rogue - Evasion/Rogue talent (Strong impression not sure about this one i can take it as a feats)
-improved trip feats

lvl 4 : Elegist - Melancholic Apparition/scroll scrib/bardique knowledge/magic trick
-Dex go to 16

lvl 5 : Elegist - steady hearted (modifie well versed)/ versatile performence
-Phantom ally (he is now a lvl 5 phantom, and not lvl 2)

lvl 6 : Elegist

lvl 7 : Elegist - Uncanny dodge (i don't think it stack with the evasion from rogue)
-Combat reflex

so that's the last version that came out of my char... im' pretty pleased with it... but i'm not sure if i understand it all correctly.
+ i'm still pretty new to pathfinder so i don't know if everyhing work well this way... or if there is any other possible build wich might be fun or go with the idea.

sorry for the long post and thanks reading/helping

ok thanks i will see what i can do

ho hum when i was talking about "agile" it was trough the weapon and not with AWT

as for becoming a full ranged char, i can take one of those two feats as trained feats via the weapon to gain some time... right ?
because i would still need 3 feats : AWT/Rapid shot/Manyshot
and i would still need the warrior lvl

if i understood corectly that is.

i didn't looked on the warrior side so yeah your idea isn't that bad Wonderstell
and i was already planing to take the agility enchant on my sword to get +5/6 to my damage.

could this go with AWT warrior spirit?
with the dueling glove this would give me a +3/+8 attack/damage
and the warrior spirit add on ...
or maybe they just can't go together ... i don't know

i already have weapon finesse trough a rogue talents
as for how did i lock the sneak attack. .. well i can't really do it
since i'm a little squishy ... i didn't want to reincarnate every 3/4 missions ...

so i was kind of looking for way to go behind my ennemy trough invisibility or by using shoes of ligntning leaping / boots of speed

trough your two proposition i can see some stuff coming out and will continue reading new suggestion... if there are =)

as i read, i though of maybe combining a little of the two idea... cause there is idea wich i found good in the two

so hum what if i take two more warrior lvl this way when my char pass lvl 9 she gets her fifth lvl as warrioir wich grant her
weapon training and with the lvl 9 feats i take AWT
with some stuff to go with like the glove of dueling.

then at lvl 10 i take a new lvl as warrior and have a new feats and go with circling mongoose (or canny dodge but i think in my case circling mongoose come first ... maybe) tel me what you think of it!

no retrain an yes unchained is allowed... but i didn't looked at it and took base rogue like i said i'm in a crapy/creepy position

Hello, thanks for reading and giving me advice ...
and sorry for the bad wording/writing

i'm playing on a server wich is simuling a city, with multiple game master and no fixed team.
and so i created for the first time a char all alone ...
yeah i don't know too well the game mechanics and all so i have some difficulties playing some time.

and so here i began a drow rogue with 20 stat point.

After some background writing, i attributed my stat like this :

STR 13
DEX 18
CON 8 (...cause i'm pretty stupid and did not know i would do some quest based on cursed sickness.)
INT 13
WIS 11
CHA 15

(i compted the species stats bonus)

with this, i had of course all my species traits

+ 2 traits
(i took [adopted: hearts of the montains] and [Reactionary]
i know that adopted is not available for drow but ... background vise it was justified

+2 feats
([point blanck shot] and [precise shot]

and i did some mission... some month and one death/réincarnation later

i'm now lvl 8 ... the result of the reincarnation wasn't that bad i just got smaller with more HP.

i'm now at :

STR 12
DEX 21
CON 12
INT 15
WIS 11
CHA 15

as a halfelin

with 4 lvl as rogue and 4 as warrior

i took some more feats ...
quick draw
combat reflexes
Dodge
Mobility
Spring attack

some traits :
survivalist
finesse Rogue (only at lvl 8 ... because i'm kind of dumb and until now i was playing with a two handed ada sword ... please don't judge me it was to follow some background of my char ...)

so here i am trying to do some nmg +/- 8 without dying while having a char wich have good points ... but is generally outmatched by other char and deal almost no damage (with bow i didn't try her new short sword yet.)

but well that's my situation... it's crapy and kind of creepy too.

so i have some idea but i don't know what to choose and what would be good ... so here they are :

- my stupid mind told me "hey why not taking a deep into magus ..."
so i looked at the class some archétype and all but i think it's kind of late to take another deep in a third class.
plus it would be to obtain some spell like [invisibility greater] and some other (but it's like minimally 5 lvl too long)

- take TWF feats at next lvl wich is rogue like ... but the char isn't very fan of having two weapon

there is also the fact that i don't know if using a sword in the main hand and a wand in the second and is considered as TWF or not...

- doing some stuff with rogue talents but i have too much otion and not enough experience to know what can give me good survivability and usefuleness... because yes i can most of the time have my char sit in a corner and look at the other do the quest
i saw some interesting stuff like the use of bomb like the alchemist with the talent of Bomber

i also plan to take some stuff and enchantments :

- have the agillity echantment applied on my short sword to have some more damage to it (wich is most likely going to hapen)

- find a way to have long arms throught potion or spell idk.

- have more move speed for spring attack and to apply flank more easily